Sub: - At SAARC, Pakistan inflicted insult to injuries of Kashmiris.
Dear Sir
As per Sunday news in prominent Indian media, Pakistan demanded that first Kashmir problem be solved before any thing such as trade, joint anti %u2013 terrorism measures etc. is taken up at SAARC summit.
Even common sense dictates that unless grave disputes like Kashmir problem is solved there can be no worthwhile trade etc. between contending nations especially when they are nuclear powers and a last word is yet to be written on their partition.
But the confusion about non relevance of Kashmir solution was spread by unrealistic shift in Pakistan policies who suddenly started believing that CBMs and some funny ideas such as joint control, irrelevance of borer etc will ultimately solve Kashmir problem.
Any body who thought that Kashmir problem could be solved by such gimmicks of India & Pakistan then he was living in his own make believe world in view of the following:-
(1)- Kashmir problem can not be solved unless Kashmir is reunified.
(2)- But on one side Hindu majority India is simply not interested in retrieving its lost territory of Muslim majority POK and on other side India will never compromise on its territorial integrity which implies that whole of J&K (including POK is an integral part of India). Whereas Pakistan does not have adequate military power to snatch remaining Kashmir from India.
(3)- Kashmir problem got exacerbated mainly due to confusion created by India by participating in the UN proceedings of plebiscite (despite constitutional mandate of sovereignty which debars Government of India from taking part in such UN proceedings in view of constitutional provisions of entire J&K including POK as an integral part of India). Even worst, despite provision of sedition under section 124 %u2013 A of Indian Penal Code, India still talks to separatist from J&K as if India%u2019s territorial integrity & sovereignty is negotiable.
(4)- Kashmiris have run out of their steam due to senseless armed struggle (supported mainly by Pakistan sponsored fundamentalists on both sides of LOC) in which Kasmiris have already lost tens of thousands of their youth and have procured grave colossal miseries for Kashmiris.
(5)- Surviving Kashmiris on both sides of LOC owe it to these departed souls that Kashmir problem is solved.
(6)- Hence the moral responsibility & key to Kashmir solution lies only with Pakistan whose interest and initiative will ultimately decide the fate of Kashmir problem.
Hence people of J&K on the eve of SAARC got cheered up because they thought that said delay tactics of India & Pakistan in relation to solving Kashmir problem were ultimately over. Pakistan seemed to have woken up (Kashmiris hoped, permanently) to the reality that enough is enough and now some serious & tough talks, on Kashmir issue, with India (even at forums like SAARC) will be in order.
But to the dismay of Kashmiris, Pakistan did not wake up permanently as it did not insist in the real sense of the term, at SAARC summit, on first resolving the Kashmir dispute.
This tantamount to Pakistan inflicting insult to injuries of Kashmiris
Yours truly
Hem Raj Jain 208, Supriya, Plot #20, Sector %u2013 10, Dwarka, New Delhi -110075, INDIA . Ph:- 91 11 32940177
Sania, and Satish, are you people are paid activist of RSS, or Shive Sena, or any other extremist party, you never think before you write your text messages, Do you know, the meaning of Divide and Rule this a formula of the West appllying on all of us, why we should go to discuss religions, the most important thing is humanity, before we cound ourselves a religious person as yourselves are we good human being. If the west by themselves are accepting that they all are ruled by Jews, America by itself is ruled by Jews, then who we are the Third World, People, can be living safe from the eyes of these narrow minded Jews. Jews are the people who demolished World Trade Center, you all may refer to some intellectual personalities in the US and India as well, "Why Three Thousands Jews, Did not Report on 9/11? Is it not a big questions, they only wanted to make a justification for Attacking Afganistan, What was the problem in Iraq, that they attaced Iraq, Bush a Big Lier, the whole world is accepting. And keep in mind that the Freedom Fighter are never called Terrorist, Satish and Sania be always broad minded, and think about the coming generation if we all can do something for them to live in peace and prosperity, people will remember us if you forget the language of hatred, forget about religion, just try to leave a lasting legacy behind you, If America wanted they would have solved the Kashimir Problem long long ago, but They want us India to be weak, poor and always struggling, becuase India has skills, to be the Super Power of the world and America will never approve it, Wake up Indians
Why you all fighting on religion. The British break most of countries in this world. This make the British to manage and make asian as slave, sell their goods, steal our wealth/money/women/children/men.
Look what the British did to India, they break India in 2 parts, India for hindu and Pakistan to muslim. The British use religion/race to break India. Kashmir is small part of problem, it can solved when India and Pakistan UNITED. Until that the west(American, British, Europe) and the east(China) will make sure India and Pakistan live as enemy. All the religion ask every human live in peace.India and Pakistan must forget the past and united under one country. The people will be happy, no big budget spend on army. Defend ASIA from the WEST. Get back to the root of problem, many time in past history India was ruled muslim leader and they build this country India to super power, why muslim want Pakistan, todate muslim are living peaceful in India, then why we need break India and Pakistan ????
RE:British did this to us.
by rmamakrishnaiyer on Apr 05, 2007 06:28 PM Permalink
Mr Jinna wanted to be the Prime Minister of India and Mr Nehru also wanted to be. This greedy for power made India divided into 2 or 3 or 4 etc g.r.iyer, boston
Congratulations Bhajiyon. Aaap logon ka undisputed logic sun ke woh log convince ho gaye. Abhi wo log aankh band karne par sirf Ram ji najar aate hain.. Aur kuchh bhi nahin dikhta lakhon kosison ke baad bhi.. you people should start preaching globally. IT padhke kitna logical ho gaye ho aap log. Man na padega bhai. Pahle IT hota to aaj har jagah Ram hi Ram hote!!! Jin ko Ghar mein panah doge, kam se kam wo log desh ki dusman nahin banenge.
To think that muslim religion is perfect shows the intense narrow mindedness.. All believers think that their religion is perfect.. but actually all religions have their own imperfections.. nothing is perfect in this world.. and all religions teach this except yours! this is the greatest imperfection in islam..!!
Religious books were written centuries ago and were relevant in those times. Not now. would you like to use a 386 computer in the current era of pentiums?
message to all Muslims please see first how your ALLAH LOOK'S like? give me some proof of how he is look like>> give me a photo, or simbole or ideal or any proof how he look...please show we the proof , so that i can see with my eyes
RE:CAN YOU SEE ALLAH? THEN WHY U CANT SEE? WHAT IS THE PROOF WHEATER HE IS THERE OR NOT..?
by mohd hussain shah on Apr 05, 2007 10:35 PM Permalink
Dear Satish, can you see your own face without a mirror? It needs reflection. Allah is by reason not by physical attributes. Reflect upon this , you will find an answer. By
Dr Singh discusses POK AND COK with Pak PM: START DISCUSS FROM POK (PAKISTAN OCCUPID KASMIR) IF CONGRESS WANT TO BE NEXT FUTHER IN INDIA,
IT TRUE OR FALES 1) Indian Congress Party is Responsibal for to make SAPARATE Pakistan from INDIA,(IN MAHATMA GHANDHI TIME) 2) Indian Congress Party is Responsibal for to make SAPARATE Bangalish from INDIA (IN MAHATMA GHANDHI TIME) 3) Indian Congress Party is Responsibal for to make SAPARATE Jammu & kashimir from INDIA ( WHICH GHANDHI TIME) 4) Indian Congress Party is Responsibal for to make SAPARATE Next Which State%u2026? from INDIA (WHO 'S TIME ..?) IT IS TRUE OR FALES
RE:Teaching
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 04, 2007 06:40 PM Permalink
Come on Suresh Teach me Hinduism please, I am ready but before that please answer my following queries 1) Why all Avatars of Vishnu are born in India only. If he is the God of the Universe, the avatars should be every where in the World and then everybody would have been Hindus in the World. 2)I was watching Ramayana serial in my Child hood days. Every time when Shri Ram is about to send an Arrow to Ravana, he will close the eyes and pray to God. If Ram is God then to whom he is praying to. 3) Why Hindu gods are assinged with a specific task limits. Like Brahma can only create, Vishnu can only Sustain and Shiva can only destroy. If he is God then he is suppose to do everything, why they have limited talents. It is like a Human being saying that I am a dentist I know only about teeth... Please answer my basic queries, still I have a dozen queries..Then I will think of accepting Hinduism..
RE:Teaching
by Ram Prasad on Apr 04, 2007 11:33 PM Permalink
Because only true religion is from India and God has chosen only India. Your statement says it itself. Why only India, because only Indians were pious enough to invite God to take birth in the country. Everybody is a hindu, but some don't accept in out of their ego. If muslims did not come from manu, then from where did they come? the date palm tree of arabia?
Obviously Rama as avatar has to follow the dharma of humans and hence he prays most obviously to himself. need he pray to anyone else?
Hindu 'gods' are not assigned limited tasks, but the tasks are embodiment of various powers of the Supreme Brahman, which you may call as Rama, Krishna, Shiva, Shakti, Durga or any other name you please. the change in name does not affect the power
RE:RE:Teaching
by satish on Apr 04, 2007 08:47 PM Permalink
YOU KNOW ONE OF THE AVATER IS HARI(U CALL HAS ALLAH) PLEASE READ THE HISTORY OF LOAD VISHNU YOU WILL GET GREAT INFORMATION ABOUT VISHNU'S AVATARS, STILL NOW MOST OF THE HINDUS DONT HOW MANY AVATARS HAS TAKEN LOAD VISHNU (SOME OF THE AVATER ARE LORD RAMA, LOAD KRISHA, LORD BALAJI, LOAD LAXMI NARASIMHA SWAMY LOAD BHUDHA, LOT OF AVATAR I DIDNT GET NAME ...
RE:Teaching
by satish on Apr 04, 2007 07:25 PM Permalink
message to all Muslims please see first how your ALLAH LOOK'S like? give me some proof of how he is look like>> give me a photo, or simbole or ideal or any proof how he look...please show we the proof , so that i can see with my eyes , i dont want fools storys
RE:Teaching
by babar on Apr 04, 2007 06:57 PM Permalink
Kya baat hay baye ..Suresh ki to bolti band..Islam Zindabad..Indeed if they dont accept islam after learning about islam..then there is hell fire for them whose fuel is rocks and humans..
RE:Teaching
by Rajesh Palejwala on Apr 04, 2007 07:32 PM Permalink
Babar & Ibrahim Sheikh, keep it up. You make me laugh so much. Keep writing this funny stuff. I read it in the morning to make my day. Why don't you do stage shows, you will definitely win comedy star status. BTW, I dont see any relevance to your questions & peace luving hinduism. Just a question. Which muslim country in the world gives equal treatment to minority? Hmmmmmmm, guess what? No muslim country. This is your perfect religion which is based on just one person & million lies.
It is not one person. It is a sum of 124000 prophets. Muhammed (PBUH) is the seal of all those presseding him. Muhammed (PBUH) himself respected non-muslims. Read basic history on Islam, you will learn a lot. Please do not believe in hearsay and myths. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.
RE:Teaching
by satish on Apr 04, 2007 07:26 PM Permalink
message to all Muslims please see first how your ALLAH LOOK'S like? give me some proof of how he is look like>> give me a photo, or simbole or ideal or any proof how he look...please show we the proof , so that i can see with my eyes, you cont See ALLAH YOU CANT KNOW HOW HE LOOK LIKE A DIVEL OR LORD
