Those who are comparing Modi and Buddhadeb under the same punishment, I would like make few points.
(1) Godhra Carnage was not started by Modi, but Nandigram carnage initiated by Buddhadeb and CPM.
(2) Gujrat Riot was also not initiated by Modi, Nandigram mass murder initiated by Buddhadeb and CPM.
(3) Modi might have been sitting iddle instead of taking stern action to control riot, but Buddhdeb and CPM actively initiated the mass murder misusing state law (police force).
(4) So, Buddhadeb ordered for the killing of farmers (Hindus and Muslims), whereas Modi did not order killing.
(5) Modi came to power not by muslim votes. But Buddhadeb and CPM came to power by common people and farmers' vote whom they are killing now.
So, Buddhadev and CPM must be brought into firing squade for justice. If Modi is convicted he may get get few year of jail or may not.
But CPMs and Buddhadeb's brutal and barbaric act on farmers is clear signal that CPM has to be finished by hook or crook.
Most probaly Singur is the begining of the end of CPM and Nandigram will be its real death scene.
RE:Modi's act and Buddhadeb's act are not same.
by Uttamkumar on Apr 04, 2007 09:47 AM Permalink
(7) During Gujrat Riot, Media had full access to move around (although it was risky), but in Nandigram massacre no media person was allowed, all the junctions around 100 Km cirle were blocked by the armed CPM cadres.
(8) Rioter were not used police dress in Gujrat, to spread riot wehreas CPM cadres used police dress for the genocide (mass murder of farmers).
RE:Modi's act and Buddhadeb's act are not same.
by Gautam Sinha on Apr 04, 2007 10:18 AM Permalink
Rightly pointed Uttamkumar. Communists have betrayed the people once more.
RE:Modi's act and Buddhadeb's act are not same.
by soma mazumder on Apr 04, 2007 10:28 AM Permalink
Gentleman
It seems to be that you know nothing about bengal and giving your big comments. You are completely forgetting what CPM has done in the land reform. CPM has only given millions of hectres of land to the poor and needy people of rural bengal through land reform.
You are completely forgetting bengal is the only state where farmars do not sucide for crops failure.
There are millions of jobless educated youth in bengal for whom industrialisation is the only solution. And Industry can not be set up in air, you need land.
As far as Singur is concerned , they have given fantistic compensation. Rs. 12.00 lacs per acre where as market price much below that level.
barring few hundred people , thousands oflocal people are supporting the TATA factory. Local people have already started getting the fruits of TATA PROJECT.
RE:Modi's act and Buddhadeb's act are not same.
by Uttamkumar on Apr 04, 2007 10:49 AM Permalink
Soma or KK Mazumder,
You are definitely CPM cadres or directly drinking the juice from CPM.
You must be living in the city. Some day if notice come to your home that you need to vacate your home at the cost of 12.00 per acres (or 2x12 lacs), you will not agree and fight back.
It seems you lost common human feeling that you supporting to roll mows on those people on whom you are eating and leaving every days.
Land reform CPM brought !!! ha ha ha. Those real communists were not in the front-face . Rather they had been suppressed by so called your Prakash karat, Buddhadeb etc. gangs.
Land reform started by CPMs and now that land is taken back from farmers. Killing them ! killing whom ? those farmers voted CPM last 30 year. What a double standard of CPM and communists now!
Land reform? just to finish "Jamindaris" Who is Tata, Salim now ? Are they social activist ?
"Tata hotao desh banchao" (remove Tata save country). Now what is the face of CPM?
Remove computers, save labours. now what is the face of CPM?
Remove English, save mother tongue. Now what is the face of CPM ?
You could be a person raped by CPM cadres, but you had to support them, otherwise you can not survive. You are a slave of CPMs, its simple.
See a movie "SAgina Mataho" staring by Dilip Kumar...
RE:Modi's act and Buddhadeb's act are not same.
by freelance on Apr 04, 2007 10:50 AM Permalink
Your comments start with by soma mazumdar and end with KK Mazumdar. In actuality who are you? We are aware that lot of people who are basically CPM people are writing here without revealing their identity.
It is apparent you know a lot about Bengal before giving your small comments. Please note that they are not at all noteworthy, and smaks of propaganda being fed from Alimuddin Street.
Even if one accepts that the left front (not CPM) govt doled out land to the landless in the past, does it give CPM the right to butcher the same peasants at a later date just because they are in opposition to the party's plans.
Who were they people who were arrested from JANANI brickfield. Why were so much arms kept there? It is a fact that they are all outsiders. What were they doing there?
What were policemen dressed in uniform and CHAPPALS doing with regular police force? Who gave them firearms?
Why there has not been any condemnation on bomming abd firing from KHEJURI towards Nandigram for last one and half months. It is not an area on sieze. Why there were no police action there?
Why is it the other allies of Left Front are showing their anger on Nandigram genocide and calling for responsiblity accounting?
Why bar the media from Nandigram? What is the problem f CBI does the wnquiry?
Soma: If you have a chance, please read this book "Sonar Bangla?" cowritten by Sugata Basu, Barbara Harris. THEY RAISED MANY VALID QUESTIONS ON FRUDULENT LAND-REFORM CLAIM OF CPIM.
I am from Burdwan and can ouch for its authenticity.
From the day "liberation policy" came in place from 1991, the country has started dividing itself and it will keep itself dividing unless communism does not take a hold of India, Jago India Jago
There are many so-called intellectual persons (however, everybody thinks that he/she is intelligent), who does not understand or see the situation from its base or interior; or there are some clever persons who intentionally distort the facts in order to confuse the people with some motive. It is worthy to mention that the leftist minded people including George Bernard Shaw and J.B.S. Haldane cautioned the people about the harmful rise of fascism by Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler. During that time, Hitler was an ideal for many leaders of the so-called democratic and liberal parties of various countries including in Indian politics. Moreover, it was the Soviet Union who played a leading role to defeat Hitler. Intererstingly, the leaders responsible for the incidence of Tiananmen Square are the founder of the trend of capitalism in China. There is a basic need before correlating communism and fascism; whether CPI(M) is actually a communist party or not? Nowadays, CPI(M) has a good friendship with Congress and the top Congress leaders are helping CPI(M) in various ways [is Congress a communist party?]. For whom CPI(M) has done the Nandigram Massacre? It has been for Salim Group who was involved in killing of the members of the Communist Party of Indonesia. Tata group is a close friend of CPI(M) and involved in Singur problem [are Tatas communist?]. It was a report in the newspaper that in the last Diwali festival, different business organizations sent valuable gifts to Prakash Karat (General Secretary of CPM) and Sitaram Yechury (another important member of CPM) [are these business groups communist?]. There are several identical examples. The basic question is, whether CPI(M) is a communist party in reality? So, why this discussion - Nandigram: Communism as fascism by involving (or confusing) different incidences of the world; where is the basis? Rather, any analytical person will see that capitalism (not communism) with socialism-mask is always involved with fascism. Human history also tells the same thing; Hitler first appeared with an apparent socialist dress.
Amitabh's view is so euro-centric. As if India or Asian experience doesn't exist, though we are 1 Billion People and till 150 years back, India's contribution to world GDP was some 25%.
While Hitler became villain (rightly), why we are not talking about Stalin (whom CPIM worship till today) and Mao? Stalin and Mao killed more people than Hitler.
Didn't Stalin make deal with Hitler? Did CPI oppose Hitler before he attacked USSR?
It doesn't matter whether CPIM is a communist party or not. If you compare it with (say) Stalinist USSR, its a rightwing party. But when compared with BJP, its a Communist Party. At least they have retained the Marxist tag in their name.
What Halden, GB Shaw wrote/said makes little sense. Those days of colonial history is over.
How much Marx knew about India, China and rest of Asia whose contribution to world GDP at that time was more than 70%? Practically nothing.
Marx went to british library, read few papers prepared by British high official, and he had the audacity to claim that his theory is universally acceptable!
RE:Why trying to mislead us?
by Amit on Apr 04, 2007 09:46 PM Permalink
The SEZ is basically a plan of BJP, which has been adopted by Congress and CPI(M). For Singur and Nandigram, many leftist organizations and leftist minded people are working and they have a great role to build the present movement. They are fighting against CPI(M) with all odds. Even Medha Patkar and several other eminent persons are highly related with these leftist organizations. They have an excellent role to develop this movement to its present state. Those leftist organizations and persons who are building the present movement by tolerating all the tortures from CPI(M) %u2013 who they are and why they are practicing Marxism? What is the role of Congress and BJP (the parties well-known for their service to the capitalism) in this movement? Where was BJP in the development of Singur movement? Finally, BJP has appeared to gain something towards vote-politics after seeing the mighty movement of the people. SEZ is a plan of BJP and BJP is showing or acting against it; is it not interesting (or befooling the people for vote gain tactics)! Regarding capitalism, throughout the world particularly the western part of Asia nowadays see its nature. Also, the SEZ programme (for which Singur, Nandigram and other places are burning) is a plan of capitalism for their gain. I think, it would be better if we could talk with those persons who are directly involved by taking all the pains in the development of the present movement of West Bengal systematically to gain the victory; their experience and ideology definitely enlighten us.
RE:Why trying to mislead us?
by Mahesh Sampat on Apr 04, 2007 04:45 AM Permalink
People who have sponsered terrorism in gujarat have no right to point accusing finger at the communists in nandigram.
RE:Why trying to mislead us?
by Rahul Oberoi on Apr 04, 2007 03:41 AM Permalink
Bongo babu - if you have finished giving your intellectual gyaaan and dropping names and historical references, please take a trip to the grassroot level in nandigram. See the conditions of living of the people who have lost their lives to save the little land that was in their names. See how their kids are barely surviving and how their widows look without the sindoor in their heads and red bangles broken. All this gyaan will go out of the window.Sitting in an ivory tower its fine to give historical references and examples, that won' in the near future repair the lives of anyone in Nandigram. And about such mistakes not being committed again by the politico - industry nexus if you and I give gyaaan here - well, its about time we stopped fooling ourselves sitting on the other side of the world.
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by Rahul Oberoi on Apr 04, 2007 03:44 AM Permalink
I meant see the condition of the families of the people who have lost their lives for their land.
RE:Why trying to mislead us?
by Rahul Oberoi on Apr 04, 2007 04:11 AM Permalink
Read it completely Amit babu and told you my opinion on it . Are you telling me that I am not even titled to my 2 cent worth opinion ?
RE:Why trying to mislead us?
by Amitabha Ray on Apr 04, 2007 04:42 AM Permalink
Read first the article of Mr. Rajeev Srinivasan completely and tell him, rather telling me. My write-up is in response to Mr. Rajeev Srinivasan.
RE:Why trying to mislead us?
by Gautam Sinha on Apr 04, 2007 10:22 AM Permalink
Mr Amitava Roy, What do you mean to say? Are you trying to defend Communism here? Get the facts right - Philosophy aside the communists (or whoever claims to be so) have been almost like facists when it came to implementation. That is the basis of comparing both.
RE:Why trying to mislead us?
by KRISHNA PRASAD on Apr 04, 2007 10:33 AM Permalink
Mr.Ray, the problem why people all over the country are distressed is about the double speak of the communists. If they do some thing in their ruled state it is right. If the same is done by another govt. it is wrong. This double speak or holier than thou attitude is only causing embarassment to them now
RE:Serial thought writes>>Once a people become radicalised, it is very difficult to put the genie back.
by Uttamkumar on Apr 04, 2007 09:10 AM Permalink
Bhaskar,
Those who are comparing Modi and Buddhadeb under the same punishment, I would like make few points.
(1) Godhra Carnage was not started by Modi, but Nandigram carnage initiated by Buddhadeb and CPM.
(2) Gujrat Riot was also not initiated by Modi, Nandigram mass murder initiated by Buddhadeb and CPM.
(3) Modi might have been sitting iddle instead of taking stern action to control riot, but Buddhdeb and CPM actively initiated the mass murder misusing state law (police force).
(4) So, Buddhadeb ordered for the killing of farmers (Hindus and Muslims), whereas Modi did not order killing.
(5) Modi came to power not by muslim votes. But Buddhadeb and CPM came to power by common people and farmers' vote whom they are killing now.
So, Buddhadev and CPM must be brought into firing squade for justice. If Modi is convicted he may get get few year of jail or may not.
But CPMs and Buddhadeb's brutal and barbaric act on farmers is clear signal that CPM has to be finished by hook or crook.
Most probaly Singur is the begining of the end of CPM and Nandigram will be its real death scene.
RE:Serial thought writes>>Once a people become radicalised, it is very difficult to put the genie back.
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 04, 2007 11:11 AM Permalink
RE:Serial thought writes>>Once a people become radicalised, it is very difficult to put the genie back.
by Uttamkumar on Apr 04, 2007 09:49 AM Permalink
(7) During Gujrat Riot, Media persons had full access to move around (although it was risky), but in Nandigram massacre no media person was allowed, no minimum help could reach, all the junctions around 100 Km cirle were blocked by the armed CPM cadres.
(8) Rioter were not used police dress in Gujrat, to spread riot wehreas CPM cadres used police dress for the genocide (mass murder of farmers).
In "Discovery of India", Nehru wrote something like this:
South Indians are more gentlemanly, well behaved when compared with North Indians BECAUSE SOUTH INDIA SAW LESS DURATION OF MUSLIM RULE.
Even a Nehru understood that what long, oppressive Muslim rule made North Indians aggressive, rubble rouser because THEY HAD TO FIGHT FOR THIER EXISTANCE FOR 1000 YEARS WITH AGGRESSIVE MUSLIMS.
RE:Serial Thought writes >>HIndus are increasingly getting radicalised in India. They will lose their tolerance this way if killings or conversions of Hindus continue in India.
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 04, 2007 02:18 AM Permalink
Some prominent thinker termed this rise of rubble rouse Hindus as "Islamization of Hinduism".
I agree with that.
Because , people have seen what farce partition was. Whether Gandhi could save Hindus of Bangladesh/Pakistan. Or even of Kashmir.
RE:Serial Thought writes >>HIndus are increasingly getting radicalised in India. They will lose their tolerance this way if killings or conversions of Hindus continue in India.
by Tamil Arasan on Apr 04, 2007 04:48 AM Permalink
When you RSS guys hate Pandit Nehru so much why are you quoting him all the time. Is it because you secretly admire him?
RE:Serial Thought writes >>HIndus are increasingly getting radicalised in India. They will lose their tolerance this way if killings or conversions of Hindus continue in India.
by Minto on Apr 04, 2007 06:00 AM Permalink
Bhaskar Chattopadhyay feels that hindus are getting more radicalized. Samuel Huntington of clash of civilization fame had written in 1960s that India is a democracy not in spite of illiteracy but because of illiteracy. Adherence to secular principles has weakened since the days of Nehru. Nehru never cared about hinduism or religion. He was perhaps agnostic in his heart. He could dictate whatever he wanted to the ignorant mass. However as India progressed and literacy spread, people became very aware of their culture and religion. They asserted tehir identity, like it or not.
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by Minto on Apr 04, 2007 06:07 AM Permalink
Partition was the worst thing that happened to people of the subcontinent, this is especially for muslims. There are about 15 crore muslims in each of the three countries (BD, Pak, India). Dalits (Harijans/schedule caste) wanted to be counted seperately. This would have made muslims the largest group in undivided India. I wonder why Mr. Jinnah split the country.
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by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 04, 2007 10:13 AM Permalink
Dalits were wiped out from Bangladesh and Pakistan.
Those who were left behind in East Pakistan were overhelmingly dalit/ Dalit Leader JN Mondal thought Jinnah will give rights to Dalits and went with him.
But even JN Mondal had to flee for his life from East Pakistan/
Read his resignation letter. He was minister in Pakistan:)-
i didn't see anybody who raise their adrenalin level when the kerala ministry lead by Mr. AK Antony (now our central defence minister), ordered firing against the Adhivasis and killed so many innocent children and women there. many peoples are still missing!!!! it is wrong whoever killed the common people in the name of power. we should protest against it and not because it was done by a communist government or a congress government or a BJP government. all of the party people are now looking to make more money when they are in power.
Its not just shooting people by Police. CPIM sent armed cadres along with police and they (cadres) killed, raped, wounded people at their free will infront of police. At Nandigram.
I am no fan of AK Anthony. But just wanted to set the record staright.
RE:where where these people....
by Prem Kumar on Apr 04, 2007 12:07 AM Permalink
Bhaskar, thats the whole point Arjun is saying! He is not supporting CPM but saying condemn everyone. When you condemn CPM, ALSO condemn Congress and BJP whenever they make mistake.
RE:RE:where where these people....
by Prem Kumar on Apr 04, 2007 06:08 AM Permalink
Bhaskar, CPM has done worst thing in Indian History - no question BUT please don't give a clean chit to Congress & BJP. Equally capable.
BJP has already done so - what about Gujarat? It is similar state-sponsored terrorism which shud be condemned equally.
RE:where where these people....
by Minto on Apr 04, 2007 06:15 AM Permalink
Others do the same thing but they know in their heart that they are evil. CPM cadres believe that they are doing the right thing when they are carrying out their violent act. Communists are fanatics like the six that BD hanged the other day.
RE:And here is a funny story what CPIM Party members did in Pune!
by Gautam Sinha on Apr 04, 2007 10:24 AM Permalink
It is pretty obvious why. Communist ideology appeals to many social thinkers and they get drawn to the parties which claim to be so. The disillusionment is enough to get this.
As the world stopped its breath in 1956 after Soviet invaded Hungary, Communists hanged Imre Negi, Hungarian President right in 20th century Europe, not somewhere in Middle East!
If you read Nehru's most authoritative biography (by S Gopal), Nehru was apalled seeing this and made up his mind to sack EMS Govt who came to power in Kerala.
EMS was subsequently sacked.
Western Europe was so apalled seeing Communists behavior, it was practically end of Communism in Western Europe.
Rajeev, how can educated people like you spread hatred and fundamentalism? Your blog calls yourself a "Shadow Warrior" & "A Hindu Nationalist". How can you discriminate your own countrymen in basis of religion & caste??? And you show off as savior of poor in your article!
SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!! You have no right to talk about other killers.
Founding father of Hindutva are: Bankim Chatterjee, Swami Dayananad, Swami Vivekanand, Aurobindo Ghosh and Savarkar. And many many prominent thinkers, politicians from Tilak to Lajpat Rai........
Hindutva and Hindu nationalism is what defined India.
Its not what Sitaram Yechuri want you to believe.
First learn what they stands for and then only you will realise whether Hindu nationalists are for setting up a theocratic state, or is it based on religion.
RE:Devil Vs Deep Sea! Communists Vs Fundamentalists!!!
by biju nair on Apr 03, 2007 10:56 PM Permalink
When some body tells the truth the liar and propagandist gets angry. This is natural.
This Guy have only Marxist education it seems. Let him also graduate from a madrassa to increase his level of ignorance.
Don't worry the majority is with you Mr.Rajeev.
These propagandists and liars will have only temporary successes. The truth will prevail ultimately.
RE:Devil Vs Deep Sea! Communists Vs Fundamentalists!!!
by Kalai Selvan on Apr 04, 2007 12:37 AM Permalink
Now what is the truth? The lies fed by bjp to the public?
RE:Devil Vs Deep Sea! Communists Vs Fundamentalists!!!
by Pathur Swaminathan on Apr 04, 2007 01:16 AM Permalink
No, perhaps the lies fed by the "Dravidians", who are perpetuating the lies and propaganda of the Macaulyites, Marxists and Missionaries!!
RE:Devil Vs Deep Sea! Communists Vs Fundamentalists!!!
by Serial Tourist on Apr 03, 2007 11:25 PM Permalink
Prem Kumar: what exactly is your objection to Rajeev's article?
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by Prem Kumar on Apr 03, 2007 11:49 PM Permalink
Serial, Bhaskar,
I have no disrespect for senior leaders who are nationals. I love them as much as anyone do. Secondly, I condemn cunning CM and ruthless Buddadeb as worse as anyone can. [Baskhar, I guess you forgot that we were condemning together, the arrogant WB govt killing poor farmers in Nandigram after the issue].
But what I'm opposing Rajeev is different reason. I agree with him when he condemns violence but he is not honest on condemnign all sorts of violence. He is been writing for long but check whether there is one article condemning post-godhra violence or Kalinganagar killing in Orissa. both are state-sponsored violence too but he doesn't worry as it is done by his favorite government, needless to say who.
To me, Buddadeb & Modi are both same - abused their power as CM and unleashed terror on people and both should be brought down.
Rajeev portrayal should be all killers punished not based on their idealogies. People should unite and fight against all the corrupt politicians.
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by Kalai Selvan on Apr 04, 2007 12:44 AM Permalink
My dear bhaskar,nobody want hindus to take it lying down. Did anyone say so? Why do you surmise all these things?
RE:Devil Vs Deep Sea! Communists Vs Fundamentalists!!!
by Serial Tourist on Apr 04, 2007 02:01 AM Permalink
HIndus are increasingly getting radicalised in India. They will lose their tolerance this way if killings or conversions of Hindus continue in India. Then it will be hell for minorities. India will become like Israel to protect itself. Once a people become radicalised, it is very difficult to put the genie back. What is stopping Hindus from recapturing Pakistan and Bangladesh and reordering a partition of India with complete exchange of populations? Minorities are going to lose all their freedoms if Hindus become militant. It will be a real tragedy for India. Congress and its anti-Hindu policies are leading to this. Hindus have begun to feel there is an apartheid against them in their own country.
Under the endowment act, all money from the temples is taken away by the government and then redistributed to churches and mosques. Hindus are not allowed to use that money to open hospitals and schools in tribal or backward areas. This is deliberately done so that there is no competition to missionaries in poor tribal states.
RE:Devil Vs Deep Sea! Communists Vs Fundamentalists!!!
by Bhoomipalagan on Apr 04, 2007 04:42 AM Permalink
Mr seriel must know that this world has become a global village. Nothing is hidden including RSS hidden agenda !! So what happens at home will reveberate across the world. If the minorities at home are harassed and ill treated the same treatment will be meted out to our hindu brothers and sisters who have settled abroad. Did you think about that? If you spread hate this way only you and your organisation are going to be ostracised by the hindus themselves.
RE:Devil Vs Deep Sea! Communists Vs Fundamentalists!!!
by Kalai Selvan on Apr 04, 2007 04:25 AM Permalink
Who are the hindus you are talking about. The 3% brahmins or the 1% RSS indoctrinated brahmins.The rest of the indians want to live in peace.
What you have in your hand to say that Post-Godhra was state sponsored?
An Enquiry commission is working. Has Modi, BJP even accused them? Have they tried to undermine their work, the way CPIM is trying to unsettle CBI probe in Nandigram?
Will teesta Seetavad et al wait for report of Nanavati Commission report?
As far as killings by all sides? ITS HINDU KILLINGS IN UNPRECEDENTED NUMBERS AT KASHMIR, BANGLADESH, PAKISTAN WHICH ARE NEVER TALKED BY PSUEDO CLASS.
YOU ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT LIST.
YOU SHED TEARS FOR 700 MUSLIMS DIED IN GUJ 2002. WHY NOT FOR 10,000,000 HINDUS/BUDDHISTS DRIVEN OUT FROM BANGLADESH?
HAVE YOU GUYS SPOKEN ON 400,000 KASHMIRIS DRIVEN OUT?
NO. WHY? DOES HINDUS LIFE EQUALLY IMPORTANT AS MUSLIMS OR NOT?
ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO ARE PUSHING HINDUS TO THE BRINK BY NOT CONDEMNING ISLAMIST TERRORISM.
PEOPLE ARE HUGELY UPSET. AND THEY WILL DO NEEDFUL TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.
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by Kalai Selvan on Apr 04, 2007 12:42 AM Permalink
Prem kumar had said earlier that ALL human life is sacred & ALL killings should be condemned be it hindu,muslim or christian. It has to be welcomed. But it looks like the RSS feels that Hindu (or is it brahmin?) life is more precious than others.
RE:Devil Vs Deep Sea! Communists Vs Fundamentalists!!!
by Prem Kumar on Apr 04, 2007 06:40 AM Permalink
Bhaskar, NOW I understand your stand - you are not worried about poor farmers killed in Nandigram, you only want to oppose CPM. For sometime, I mistook your FUNDAMENTALISM for love for your countrymen.
Please see my posting in Rediff links during Nandigram incident. I was more critical of CPM & Buddha than you. I have no respect for CPM, EVER.
When I talk about Gujarat, I also talk about Nandigram - who killed in Nandigram? Are they NOT hindus? I din even care to know what religion they belong too. Why are you interested in the unseen barb you are putting around yourself called "RELIGION"?
Who said I haven't talked about Hindu minorities killed in Kashmir? Even when I opposed, I did oppose only the killing of Human beings in Kashmir, I didn't paint them as Hindus!!!
Shame on you all who see religion in everything. I hope one day your thirst for blood of different religion human will end.
RE:Devil Vs Deep Sea! Communists Vs Fundamentalists!!!
by Tamil Arasan on Apr 04, 2007 04:30 AM Permalink
The whole world knows that the aftermath of Godhra was state sponsored under the supervision of Narendra modi. That is why Modi was denied entry into america .They felt he was a terrorist.
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by Virasha on Apr 04, 2007 02:37 AM Permalink
Namaste Prem! I do not know much about Orissa incident. But, you have to be in Gujarat for long time before hating Narendra Modi. Godhara has been historically a boiling plate communally for a long time. Ahmedabad (Amdavad as we call it) had been a worst place in that regard too. Though communal riots are localized to some areas, 'RathYatra" every year has to be highly secured every single year. In Vadodara, whenever Pakistan used to play cricket, you will find Pakistani flag on the railway track near the most used road. So, people in major places of Gujarat had latent anger which exploded after Godhara incident. Government played some role if you consider policemen failing as they didn't stop hindus harshly. Where is Modi in it?
