To Abhay Aadarh After converting you have gone blind as to not see anything wrong with bible same as muslims no difference.How much bible stories you know in detail like you know ramayan and mahabharat ? i bet you dont know please every body reading this comment go to http://www.positiveatheism.org bible unmasked where each and every verse of old testament and some new testament chappter are discussed. especailly hindus will be the most shocked once to see the immorality of bibical characters. Abrahim,sara,lot,ruth,david,ester so please have a look at bible "word of the lord"
Passages from the Christian Scriptures which Sanction Slavery Neither Jesus nor St. Paul, nor any other Biblical figure is recorded as saying anything in opposition to the institution of slavery. Slavery was very much a part of life in Palestine and in the rest of the Roman Empire during New Testament times. Quoting Rabbi M.J. Raphall, circa 1861, "Receiving slavery as one of the conditions of society, the New Testament nowhere interferes with or contradicts the slave code of Moses; it even preserves a letter [to Philemon] written by one of the most eminent Christian teachers [St. Paul] to a slave owner on sending back to him his runaway slave." 1
People in debt (and their children) were still being sold into slavery in New Testament times:
Matthew 18:25: "But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made."
Priests still owned slaves:
Mark 14:66: "And as Peter was beneath in the palace, there cometh one of the maids of the high priest:"
Jesus is recorded as mentioning slaves in one of his parables. It is important to realize that the term "servant" in the King James Version of the Bible refers to slaves, not employees like a butler, cook, or maid. Here, a slave which did not follow his owner's will would be beaten with many lashes of a whip. A slave who was unaware of his owner's will, but who did not behave properly, would also be beaten, but with fewer stripes.
This would have been a marvelous opportunity for Jesus to condemn the institution of slavery and its abuse of slaves. But he is not recorded of having taken it:
Luke 12:45-48: "The lord [owner] of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more."
One of the favorite passages of slave-owning Christians was St. Paul's infamous instruction that slaves to obey their owners in the same way that they obey Christ:
Ephesians 6:5-9: "Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart; With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men: Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free. And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him."
Other passages instructing slaves and slave owners in proper behavior are:
Colossians 4:1: "Masters, give unto your servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven." 1 Timothy 6:1-3 "Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honor, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed. And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort. If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;"
In his defense, St. Paul incorrectly expected that Jesus would return in the very near future. This might have demotivated him from speaking out against slavery or other social evils in the Roman Empire. Also he regarded slaves as persons of worth whom at least God considers of importance. St. Paul mentioned that both slaves and free persons are sons of God, and thus all part of the body of Christ and spiritually equal.
1 Corinthians 12:13: "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit." Galatians 3:28: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Colossians 3:11: "Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all."
St. Paul apparently saw no evil in the concept of one person owning another as a piece of property. In his Letter to Philemon, he had every opportunity to discuss the immorality of slave-owning, but declined to do so.
Deuteronomy 23:15-16, cited above, requires a Jew to protect a runaway slave, and to not return him/her to their owner.. However, St. Paul violated the law. While in prison, he met a runaway slave, Onesimus, the slave of a Christian. He was presumably owned by Pheliemon. Rather than give the slave sanctuary, he returned him to his owner. Paul seems to hint that he would like Pheliemon to give Onesimus his freedom, but does not actually request it. See the Letter to Philemon in the Christian Scriptures.
Christianity like everything else in the west has been a stupendous marketing campaign by the utterly attrocious and barbaric church....Indian christians are basically offspring of slaves during portuguese....but still they are proud to be slaves......their surnames like D'Souza, Fernandez.....are actually the last names of their ancestor's masters.....and they still retain that.....
Find out more about this political religion http://www.christianaggression.org/
These conversions happens only in india and these missionaries use the poor economical status of poor ppl especially Hindhus and tell them they will aid them had they convert to christianity. Missionaries has got hell lot of funds to help tsunami victims and these demanded poor victims of tsunami to get covert,to give them the aid.Those who converted were given , and those who refused were not given.why dont these has guts to operate in any islamic country? Recent happenings from AP, There are several hospitals and univercity which runs under the funds of Tirupati temple, these hospitals /colleges provide health facilities/edn to all irrespective of caste and religion.But the christian Vice chancellor of this univerity appointed by christian Cm of AP is forcing the students of hostels and patients to convert.Spl agents are appointed in thier rooms and even in hospitals to convert them.Those who agreed are given good markrs and others were given poor.one student who cant bare this torture has committed suicide and AP govt is not doing anything over the cries of ppl.
RE:Biggest and Best Industry to get foreign investment
by Kishore Babu on Apr 03, 2007 12:39 PM Permalink
Recent happenings from AP, There are several hospitals and univercity which runs under the funds of Tirupati temple, these hospitals /colleges provide health facilities/edn to all irrespective of caste and religion.But the christian Vice chancellor of this univerity appointed by christian Cm of AP is forcing the students of hostels and patients to convert.Spl agents are appointed in thier rooms and even in hospitals to convert them.Those who agreed are given good markrs and others were given poor.one student who cant bare this torture has committed suicide and AP govt is not doing anything over the cries of ppl on this issue.
RE:Biggest and Best Industry to get foreign investment
by Joel Satheesh on Apr 08, 2007 05:39 PM Permalink
what a joke :))) You guys dont have anything else to think about or what??
Sorry Iam sorry to say that the converts are week minded who thought easy way out to solve their problems is convert to Xtianity , they dont understand that they still have to fight for their livelihood.
Hindus need to support VHP/RSS wholeheartedly incase they cannot come on the roads/dont have time to protest. Pls go around Villages in AP, Rachi, Jabalpur , viallges in TN, Northeast, see for yourself- missionaries have converted majority of hindus and pls dont be surprised to see Xtian a majority religion in india. Kerla already a Xtian majority. Some one rightly said missionaries is like white ants.
If you really want to oppose come forward and raise your voice rather behaving like sleeping ducks. The government will not do anything unless people raise their voices, govt will not inact rules unless people dont protest.
While the Hindu community is justified in raising hue and cry regarding conversions and processions, where were these protesters when Center was mulling over muslims' first claim over resources? Where was the indignation then? Why were there no dharnas and hartaals?
Processions and public speeches should not be a reason for riots. Protestors should have a bigger picture and channel their emotions on larger, more important issues.
There is a law enacted in Madhya Pradesh since mid 1960s when Congress was in power, to protect peoples religion, specially that of poor.
Even Supreme Court has upheld that in a ruling in 1979.
That law must be applied and all those missionaries, their leaders, fund suppliers must be brought to justice. It needs to be find out whether they followed thr rule of law, applied for conversion before magistrate well in advance.
Unless missionaries are stopped, it will create huge backlash from Hindus.
