RE:Brainwashed BJP supporters
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 03, 2007 07:45 PM Permalink
Every Indian Support should BJP. Because its a paty for whom India comes first, second and last. They have no territorial affiliation as usually associated with Marxists, Mullahs or Missionaries. Without strong dosage of Nationalism , Indian progress can become imperiled.
So far BJP have been treated as a Untouchable by Communists and Congress - by rallying Minorities.
Now those days are over. EVERY REGIONAL PARTY EXCEPT LALU PRASAD MADE AN ALLIANCE WITH BJP SOMETIME IN RECENT HISTORY/
RE:Brainwashed BJP supporters
by Akash mrr on Apr 03, 2007 08:28 PM Permalink
This is Same As BNP (Racist party in Uk Brtish National party who wants to get rid of all people from their country so What you think is BJP is a same coin like BNP???
RE:Sidhu to Rahul: If Atal was PM in %u201984, Sikhs would not have been murdered
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 03, 2007 11:32 AM Permalink
Mis understood Mr. Sidhu, In congress rule Sikhs were asking for a seperate land called Punjab. Congress killed only the seperatists and it was a military action. If BJP would have ruled at that time all these fanatics would have killed Men, Raped Women and slaugther children. Mr.Sidhu no matter how you try to convince, according to Mr.Ashok Singhal Sikhs are all Hindus, so I don't think sikhs will be happy with that generalization..
RE:Sidhu to Rahul: If Atal was PM in %u201984, Sikhs would not have been murdered
by hiral joshi on Apr 03, 2007 12:40 PM Permalink
So you are telling 4000 sikhs killed in Delhi were separatist? Whom are you fooling? Why do you think Sikhs will be happy if Hindus consider them Hindus? Sikhs are Hindus because the Sikh religion has born in this land and not imported by invaders.
RE:Sidhu to Rahul: If Atal was PM in %u201984, Sikhs would not have been murdered
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 03, 2007 07:48 PM Permalink
Sikhs are more than Hindus. Its because of bravery, sarifice of Sikh Gurus that Hinduism is alive in Parts of North India.
Sikh Gurus, Banda Bahadur should be treated as supreme example when we are again facing same fundamentalist Islamic Jihadists as they faugh and defeated illk like Aurangjeb, Shah Wahiullah.
Sikhs are NOT separatists. That was Congress way of creating a problem in Punjab so Indira Gandhi milk Hindu Vote in North India.
Rahul Gandhi's tactics is good, enticing young and promoting congress as a secular party.
i think Indian politics has to outgrow the caste vote bank.
How can Rahul Gandhi preach about the SP and BSP gaining power because of caste vote bank when the ruling party of Centre in this case Congress is securing its vote for the next term by reservation which is nothing but based on Caste.
UP has been perishing. Basic amenties like power & water have not been made available forget about other infrastructures. In order to witness this one does not have go beyond Ghaziabad. The glimpse of complete UP could be witnessed in Ghaziabad. Ghaziabad being near to Delhi is the most better off, other cities are even worse.
Power outages for more than 12 hours at times and water avialable only for 3- 4 hours.
I have one question for Rahul Gandhi. Can he stay in such an environment without AC and other luxuries for 15 days. If yes then he can find an effective road show methodology and also the solution to problems.
RE:Rahul Gandhi's brilliant effort on the lines of Nehru - Gandhi family
by hiral joshi on Apr 03, 2007 12:41 PM Permalink
What do you mean by Secular party? Rahul stared campaign from Deoband a birth place of Taliban. Do you think its secular?
RE:Rahul Gandhi's brilliant effort on the lines of Nehru - Gandhi family
by Sirach B on Apr 03, 2007 08:08 AM Permalink
Prayas Mudda, I have a question for you, how many Indian Politicians can live without A/C.For me its sounds like a very stupid argument.
Mudda-Bhai: People, specially middle class are swithcing to BJP in droves. Because of Safety, security of the nation. To ensure, we don't see any further partition of India.
I had been a hardcore CPIm supporter for over 2 decades.
I didn't support BJP when it ruled India for 6 years.
But after fall of Vajpayee Govt, I felt what he was. Itslike the old saying: You understand the worth of teeth, once you loose it.
Don;t worry, its almost foregone conclusion that BJP is coming back with a bigger #.
RE:Expectation of Cong's rejuvination will never succeed.
by South Indian on Apr 03, 2007 07:42 AM Permalink
BJP lost its base considerably in 2004. Drop from 183 to 138 (loss of 45 seats) was not because of TN or Andhra. How many seats BJP had in TN AP? 5? This loss is despite an impressive show by BJP in MP & Rajastan. Now they are loosing the battle in both those places and andin next elections they will suffer big losses in both MP and Rajastan. They wont probably compensate that loss from elsewhere.
In Bihar and Punjab being part of the opposition they benefitted from anti-incumbency. They are riding on strong allies shoulders. This week they lost 2 LS elections in Chatisgarh and Jharkand. By now BJP leadership might have understood what is in store.
RE:Expectation of Cong's rejuvination will never succeed.
by kitttigadu on Apr 03, 2007 08:23 AM Permalink
So when did this Lok Sabha bye election in Jharkhand take place . Spinning stories, aren't we.
Dear South Indian: I think every commentetor agreed that in 2004 NDA lost because BJP allies did POORLY. They lost more seats than BJP.
Just check the number you will realize.
In Andhra alone, TDP was wiped out. Cong managed some 15 EXTRA seats without which BJP WOULD HAVE LEADING CENTRAL GOVT. Because BJP & Cong's difference was 6 seats.
Cong was called to form ministry because they had Max number.
IF BJP WOULD HAVE CALLED, WE WOULD HAVE SEEN DMK, NCP, PASWAN EVERYBODY WITH BJP AT THE CENTER ENJOYING POWER.
RE:Expectation of Cong's rejuvination will never succeed.
by Tamil Arasan on Apr 03, 2007 05:46 AM Permalink
Don't crow too loudly about bjp but wait for the results.BTW did'nt bjp too compromise on terrorism at kandhahar? You did'nt win single handedly in punjab but had to ride piggy back on someone else. You accuse Mulayam but put up convicted murderers as candidates in punjab. Pot still calling the kettle black!
RE:Expectation of Cong's rejuvination will never succeed.
by Tamil Arasan on Apr 03, 2007 06:44 AM Permalink
U guys should thank MK for behaving like a gentle man that he is during his alliance with bjp. Contrast it with what J. Jayalalatha the darling of the brahmin masses did to the brahmin guru Kanchi sankaracharya. And you Rss,VHP,BJP guys still support her clandestinely.
RE:RE:Expectation of Cong's rejuvination will never succeed.
by Tamil Arasan on Apr 03, 2007 08:42 AM Permalink
My dear kittigadu. I doubt if we will even be alive @ 80. But this guy MK @ 80 years pulls off an alliance of all parties north & south ,makes it a formidable one & gives the so called nationalist party of patriots a run for their money stunning the hindutva brigade into dumb silence.As for brahmins being smarter than I statistics tell it all. The SCs,BCs you trashed once upon a time are showing you the way right from India upto the USA. If I'm not smarter than you guys I won't be able to give you TIT for TAT with insolent ease. I have nothing against the brahmins it is only against hate spreading brahmins like you!
RE:Expectation of Cong's rejuvination will never succeed.
by Ravi K on Apr 03, 2007 07:07 AM Permalink
Let us all ignore Tamil Arasan - he is a christian and has full of hatred for hindus. We don't need such junk fellows.
RE:Expectation of Cong's rejuvination will never succeed.
by Sirach B on Apr 03, 2007 08:11 AM Permalink
Take the points from Tamil Arasan and answer that if you can, if you ignore him, everyone ignores everyone.That does'nt make sense in the message boards
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by Tamil Arasan on Apr 03, 2007 08:46 AM Permalink
My dear friend Ravi ,it is becoming fashionable for RSS cadres like you to brand all opposition as christians . From the very fact that you are sustituting the word Hindu for Indian shows how communal you are. Now who is the "Junk fellow" ?
"Rahul Gandhi is a Flop" - Ramchandra Guha, 'Liberal' Historian. Guha is quoted by the Outlook thus, which in my opinion has most aptly described the situation.
Here is "future monarch' of World's largest democracy (should we call hypocracy?) who goes to Deobond, the Jihad Central of the World being ideological father of Taliban and talks "Babri".
Worse, he humiliates PV Narshima Rao, the most successful Congress PM outside Gandhi-Nehru family.
Rahul Gandhi shows Congress is hell bent in appeasing even Deobond to return power. But guess what, the Country will never accept paying that price.
RE:''Rahul Gandhi is a Flop'' - Ramchandra Guha, 'Liberal' Historian. Guha is quoted by the Outlook thus, which in my opinion has most aptly described the situation.
by Tamil Arasan on Apr 03, 2007 05:53 AM Permalink
PV Narasimha Rao was India's worst Prime Minister. He was a non performer who allowed things to drift.He had a brilliant finance Minister & a dynamic predecesor & so managed his term. Just because he was a brahmin does not make him sucessful. He was the one who allowed the destruction of the Masjid & was responsible for the blood bath that followed.
That was to happen someday. Nehru closed the masque. Rajiv opened the gate, did shilanyas by sending his Home Minister, promised Ram-Rajya by starting his campaign from Ayodhya.
RE:''Rahul Gandhi is a Flop'' - Ramchandra Guha, 'Liberal' Historian. Guha is quoted by the Outlook thus, which in my opinion has most aptly described the situation.
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 03, 2007 06:24 AM Permalink
On the contrary, It was PV who gave political space to MM Singh who could do necessary reform of Indian Economy.
Look at MM Singh today! He is PM, but he cannot further economic reform, BECAUSE HE DO NOT HAVE POLITICAL POWER. He is sandwitched between Sonia and CPIM.
So, ALL CREDIT MUST GO TO PV NARSHIMA RAO.
REMEMBER, PV RAN GOVT FOR FULL 5 YEARS WITHOUT HAVING MAJORITY.
RE:''Rahul Gandhi is a Flop'' - Ramchandra Guha, 'Liberal' Historian. Guha is quoted by the Outlook thus, which in my opinion has most aptly described the situation.
by KA on Apr 03, 2007 11:29 AM Permalink
//On the contrary, It was PV who gave political space to MM Singh who could do necessary reform of Indian Economy.// You are right. In an interviw on American TV, when he was finance minister under PVN, Manmohan Singh said that he was not the architect of the reforms but that he was brought in by PV to implement them. He was impressive in his humility as well as - to me - in his grasp of Indian economics.
RE:''Rahul Gandhi is a Flop'' - Ramchandra Guha, 'Liberal' Historian. Guha is quoted by the Outlook thus, which in my opinion has most aptly described the situation.
by Tamil Arasan on Apr 03, 2007 06:48 AM Permalink
It is said 'when Rome was burning emperor Nero was fiddling'! PVN Rao might not have fiddled !! but he sure turned the other way when india burned. You tell me he was a survivor I will agre but sucessful.. No Way.
"Rahul Gandhi is a Flop" - Ramchandra Guha, 'Liberal' Historian. Guha is quoted by the Outlook thus, which in my opinion is most aptly described the situation.
Here is "future monarch' of World's largest democracy (should we call hypocracy?) who goes to Deobond, the Jihad Central of the World being ideological father of Taliban and talks "Babri".
Worse, he humiliates PV Narshima Rao, the most successful Congress PM outside Gandhi-Nehru family.
Rahul Gandhi shows Congress is hell bent in appeasing even Deobond to return power. But guess what, the Country will never accept paying that price.
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by kitttigadu on Apr 03, 2007 08:25 AM Permalink
Guha himself is a big flop. He is only capable of penning some odes to Nehuru. So much for his nonsense.
It will be really good if BJP wins. But it is not that easy. All the muslims will vote for parties that appease muslim community. Remember Mulayam singh has given clean chit to SIMI terror groups.Mayawati has announce reservation for Muslims. Congress leader as usual are licking all muslims shoes and assesn for vote. On the other hand Hindus as a majority community votes in divided fashion.
RE:Good if BJP wins
by Raju Puducode on Apr 03, 2007 04:27 AM Permalink
That has been the curse of India & continues even today that the great Hindu society is divided on caste & communal lines, which is reflected even in all party makeup. If only the Hindus will unite under one banner of one flag, one nation, and one national anthem with a passion for the motherland, India will rise to higher & higher levels of strength, prosperity & respect among world political setup. We should all strive towards that ideal so that one-day we can realize that dream.
RE:Good if BJP wins
by Tamil Arasan on Apr 03, 2007 05:56 AM Permalink
This one banner ,one flag,one one nation,one national anthem was first inroduced by Adolf Hitler & the Nazis.Do we have to follow them?
RE:Good if BJP wins
by Save Hinduism on Apr 03, 2007 06:54 AM Permalink
Every other nation follows it. Why do you want to be different? What is your problem Tamil?Your are all over the place as far your arguments go. What is wrong in having a national identity? Flag conveys national identity, national anthem conveys identity? What are you advocating? Come out clearer. Told you before, no one is here to make life hard for anyone. Every one is looking for justice and happiness
RE:Good if BJP wins
by Pure Hindustani on Apr 03, 2007 09:39 AM Permalink
I have told you guys before that this 'Tamil Arasan' is an xian or muslim under a Hindu name. He has admitted this in one of the previous posts. Don't you remeber Tamil, you were banned by MunnaBhai on this forum.
RE:Good if BJP wins
by Ravi K on Apr 03, 2007 04:49 AM Permalink
This is only possible through efforts from fellow hindus to educate other hindus about the perils of minority appeasement programs and the religious threats india is facing. Chirstians are actively converting thousands of Hindus in rural areas. Their modus operandi is to befriend an unssupecting secular hindu and slowly preach christianity. They usually target those who are in depression or suffering from mental stress.
The increasing activity of Islamic Terrorists in interior parts near Nepal border and the ease with which arms are delivered and distributed in states like UP, Kerala, Karnataka, AP goes to highlight the safe havens that Islamic Terrorism now enjoys in India. An environment of political mobilization of Muslims on religious grounds has spawned competitive minorytism amongst the so called anti-national parties like Congress & Communists, & SP and the State Governments where they are in power.
By condoning Muslim fundamentalist violence during the Iraq, Iran and Cartoon & reservation issues and Pan Islamic Political Mobilization over these issues the Governments in UP and in New Delhi have contributed to the creation of an environment where it is OK to encourage, shelter and patronize those whose loyalties to a Global Islamic cause are stronger than their love & respect to the land of Bharat.. This when combined with the Muslim Criminal elements who have been given a free reign in Uttar Pradesh under Mulayam Yadav has created Institutional safe havens where Islamic terrorism can germinate and flourish with no fear of consequences because there are many layers of Secular Cover that they can operate freely with no fear.
All of the above will only receive further boost as these Muslim bodies organize themselves politically thus pushing the so-called secular parties to work overtime in wooing them with rabid minorytism. All of this has portends ominously to the future of internal security and safety of India.
