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Nandigram - Commie-ism, Fascism etc.
by ARVIND DESAI on Apr 03, 2007 03:44 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

A few hundred years ago, thieves, rapists, dacoits etc. spread a rumour against Marie Antionette of France (that she had said that if people can't get bread to eat they should eat cake). That rumour sparked of a revolution catapulting the thieves, rapists, dacoits rightfully serving their sentence in the Bastille prison to the position of rulers and intelectual guides of society. Since then they have unleashed the products of their intellectual diarhoea onto the hapless human race. These products such as commie-ism, fascisim, nihilism, surrealism, existentialism (and-God-knows-what-else-ism) are all result of their rotten reductionist method of thinking. Time is running out for humanity to re-establish their touch with their true selves, to rededicate themselves to the real purpose of human life, to realize that human life is not solely for the purpose of grabbing and consuming the earth's resources (or 'means of production' as Mahamaharshi Karl Marx would have us believe). Commies, capitalists, nihilists, extremists belonging to all religious groups, please wake up. You have nothing to lose but your ideological delusions. Wake up fast, otherwise, the polar ice-caps have already started melting. If we don't stop fighting over resources, the resources themselves would drown in the ocean. I am reminded of the magic word 'Dharma' which means something that holds this world together. As a child or youngster, I used to wonder why does the world need to be 'held' together. Since the world has abandoned Dharma and has been following the path of a-Dharma it has reached this brink of abyss. . . . . Perhaps these are last and final set of calls for mankind to roll-back the monstrosities which we cherish as modernities.

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RE:Nandigram - Commie-ism, Fascism etc.
by habc on Apr 04, 2007 01:05 PM  Permalink
Great comment Arvind

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RE:Nandigram - Commie-ism, Fascism etc.
by calmer on Apr 03, 2007 05:08 PM  Permalink
Good one - all need to think and ponder. But then, who is going to listen? This is a wilderness, and no sane thinking will get the attention it deserves!

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RE:Nandigram - Commie-ism, Fascism etc.
by Praveen Kumar Marthanda on Nov 19, 2007 08:57 PM  Permalink
Buddhadeb is not a communist and comparing communism with fascism is a farce. Recently, CPI(Maoist) announced open struggle against pseudo-communist Buddhadeb. Police also found guns and explosives belonging to Maoists near Nandigram. It is shame on you to make meaningless comparisions.

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RE:Nandigram - Commie-ism, Fascism etc.
by Harry Potter on Jan 14, 2008 07:06 PM  Permalink
Er, to reduce the origins of the French revolution to a rumour spread against Marie Antoinnete shows a rading of history so simplistic that it sounds childish. Robespierre may have been a tyrant but Voltaire, Rousseau and Montasque were not dacoits or murderers let alone any of the other epithets directed against them. Even leaving aside the gifts of parliamentary democracy and human rights the world got as fruits of the revolution I cannot understand how the author traces existentialsim, nihilism and capitalsim to the French Revolution.

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Communism as fascism
by later gupta on Apr 03, 2007 03:06 PM  Permalink 

"Anti-individualistic, the fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State, which stands for the conscience and the universal will of man as a historic entity.... The fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value...."
In India, where spiritual values , human values
as an outcome of spiritual values and respect for one and all was the ORDER OF THE SOCIETY at one time when Macaulay's educational policy did not make a dent in Indian Society , made her reach the peak of GLORY,for which foreign powers of different times were attracted to capture and rule. Fascism was beyod the conception in India.
Its a product of communists,communism getting its birth in a country where human values were unheard of,not to speak of spiritual values.
People in India have the tradition of assepting anything irrespective of goodness or EVILNESS,an outcome of SIMPLENESS of minds of the people.
Those who imported Communism with inharent fascism wanted to bank upon this goodness og people of India.
Its time now for survival from those unkindly
devastating HIDDEN ideas of FASCISM,under the banner of Communism!
NANDIGRAM IS A BURNING EXAMPLE OF FASCISM .the ecvents are not surely of STATE INTERST!
IT IS INDIVIDUAL INTERST

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Nandigram ...
by Avijit Mitra on Apr 03, 2007 02:48 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Srinivas has some facts to his article here but we must separate Buddha/Nirupam away from the typical Communists we know of like Jyoti Basu, Karat, Babu and others. Buddha is a person of high moral character and a blessing to Bengal after 20 years of slump! People who blame him for Nandigram incident has distorted facts about the incident. The confrontation was long planned by some political opportunists who have taken full advantage by instigating the women & kids against the police who only went there to take control of law and order ... but I agree they have reacted absolutely stupidly and the death of 14 people is deplorable. Communism is something that I also despise but what Buddha & team are doing is far from it. Please understand that development requires industry also which needs to be built and require land. Land grabbing is happening at other states very quietly and is not coming in the media, fortunately this one did and we see the flip side of our industrial revolution throughout India. So instead of criticizing please suggest solution as some people here can do the former and an easy thing to do. Trinamool Party (Mamata Bannerji) has taken an oath to oppose any effort of industrialization like what they did in Singur. Their party people are only supplying construction material to the TATAs and hence we see the contradiction - if there is a political opportunity whether it's Nandigram or Singur ... why lose it?

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RE:Nandigram ...
by abby Das on Aug 14, 2007 04:58 PM  Permalink
A long time has passed by when you posted your comments.In between the mass kiling at Nandigram has happened.Lately when Budhdha babu said "No land will be taken at Nandigram" then Mr Balai Roy(AG) inside the highcourt gave a comment that "There is no need to give importance what the CM says."Can you imagine what an insult this was?Still our HONEST CM is silent.He cannot say anyhting and has lost all authority.Actually he has recahed the maximum level of frustration and has gone down to personal level attacks inside Bidhan Sabha.


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RE:Nandigram ...
by Uttamkumar on Apr 03, 2007 09:03 PM  Permalink
The person who order to kill (by police and armed cadres) starving people, is a person of highly moral character !
That is Buddhadeb bhattacharya...
What a big JOKE.


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RE:Nandigram ...
by Sabyasachi Ghosh on Apr 04, 2007 05:24 PM  Permalink
Mr. Uttamkumar and all readers and writers,

My first question to all those who are writing such big big things--- How many of you have stayed in West Bengal for the past 24 years???

My second question, why isn't anybody putting , the so called CPM dada Mr. Lakkhan Seth in front of the firing sqad and straight away firing him to death, just the way he had done so in Nandigram?

My third question, why aren't anybody investigating the ground realities and punishing the corrupt police officials who had allowed the gundas to take cover under police uniform ( but wearing sleepers!!!!!!!) and shoot indiscriminately at the poor villagers at the cost of some few pennies?? Do they not get salaries every month??

Why isn't anybody awarding the faithful police personnels who had planted cameras at various locations ( stills of which were published in one local daily) because of which I am able to write all these facts.

Guys, there is no point in criticising any Party or any individual. Mr. Uttamkumar, I have serious questions about your knowledge about Bengal . For your information, no person serving the nation at the level of a CM will stand and give orders to open fire . All is not like the way you think. Quite understandably the WB Government is trying to set the pace of industrialisation within the state. Guys , its OK !! A country needs industries to grow! But all fruits of the same basket may not get ripe at the same moment.. There are persons who want to tarnish the image of CPM in West Bengal. Who can gurantee that this is not the mischief of the opposition of West Bengal , who has such keen interest for the CM's chair that she could leave aside a Central Portfolio to dance around in West Bengal ?? She has always believed in stunt politics and emotional blackmailing of the masses. Can anybody gurantee the fact that MP Lakkhan Seth along with lower level police cadres were not purchased?? Friends , all I request you people is to think and think again.. Writing a few columns on Marxism and n number of "isms" will not solve purpose.

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RE:Nandigram ...
by abby Das on Apr 16, 2007 04:44 PM  Permalink
Mr Ghosh.
I am surprised when you have put allegations against Mr Laxman Seth but cleverly forgoten the lies that Mr Budhdha Bhattacharya has been saying all these years.He constantly lied saying that 96% of willing farmers have given land in Singur willingly while in the own website of Govt Of WB they could give documents for only 50-60%.They could put in front of the court even lesser than that.Why shouldn't he be put behind the bars just for this reason of saying lies to the public and misloeading the public?Why Mr Nirupom sen shouldn't resign as commerce and industry minister when he lied about the Maruti factory at Gurgaon?Or maybe you want to say they lied and did all these because SHE purchased Buddha Babu and Nirupom sen too?

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Communists have never supported India
by Sincere Citizen on Apr 03, 2007 02:21 PM  Permalink 

The loyalty of the communists to Indian state is questionable as they have always supported China and other aggressors.
Their ideology is flawed and has resulted in the backwardness of West Bengal, now they are tyring to undo the damage done by themselves and further aggravating the situation.
Anyone supporting them isnt thinking right.

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Original fact report of Kolkata highcourt - leaked (since it may become corrupted)
by Revolutionary on Apr 03, 2007 01:59 PM  Permalink 

Dear all this is the original report of the fact finding commitee deputed by the Kolkata high court - fearing it may get corrupted it has been leaked in the web. Also as per the report more than 75 to 125 people are either killed or missing including children.

Nandigram: Horror Stories Emerge

Fact finding report of the delegation deputed by the Calcutta High Court

23 March, 2007


Report of the team who went to Nandigram in the district of Purba Medinipore in terms of the order of the Hon%u2019ble High Court dated 15.03.2007 passed by the Hon%u2019ble Division Bench comprised of Mr. S.S. Nijjar, Chief Justice and the Hon%u2019ble Justice Pinaki Chandra Ghosh in a writ petition filed by the Association for Protection of Democratic Rights and Paschim Banga Khet Majdoor Samity.

1. That soon after getting a plain copy of the order of the Hon%u2019ble High Court a team consisting of the following persons proceeded towards Nandigram from the High Court.

i) Sri Amit Dyuti Kumar, representing the Association for Protection of Democratic Rights;

ii) Sri Prasad Roychowdhury, Secretary, Association for Protection of Democratic Rights;

iii) Dr. (Mrs.) Subabrata Bhadra, Association for Protection of Democratic Rights;

iv) Sri Raghu, Association for Protection of Democratic Rights;

v) Smt. Anurada Talwar, representing Paschim Banga Kheth Majdoor Samity;

vi) Sri Jeeban, - do %u2013

vii) Ms. Panchali Roy - do %u2013

viii) Sri Sandeep -do-

ix) Sri Chiro -do-

x) Sri Pramod -do-

xi) Sri Gangyly,

xii) Sri Sadhan Roychowdhury, representing Manabidhikar Suraksha Mancha (MASUM);

12. Sri Subrata Roy, representing Manabidhikar Suraksha Mancha (MASUM);

13. Sri Arjun Das , representing MASUM

xv) Bibek Tripathy, Advocate, High Court , Calcutta

2) At about 8 PM on 15.03.2007 a team went to the office of the District Magistrate, Purba Medinipore where Mr. Anup Agarwal, District Magistrate, Purba Medinipore was present. The team expressed their strong will and desire to go to Nandigram and sought for security escort or necessary police protection to enable the team to proceed for Nandigram immediately.

3) The District Magistrate, Purba Medinipore, however, flatly refused to entertain any such request for rendering police protection to the team on various counts or grounds saying that the District Magistrate, Purba Medinipore is not a party in the writ petition and that the said District Magistrate, Purba Medinipore has no legal or moral obligation to entertain any of the requests on the subject. Then the District Magistrate, Purba Medinipore advised the members of the team not to go to Nandigram on the ground that seeing the members of the team the people of Nandigram may be charged thereby there will be apprehension of breach of law and order.

4) All persuasions made by the team for allowing the members of the team to go to Nandigram failed.

5) At about 8.30 PM the team went to the office of the Superintendent of Police, Purba Medinipore but in the said office of the Superintendent of Police, Purba Medinipore no one was present. The night guard also could not provide the team with any information as to where the Superintendent of Police, Purba Medinipore will be available or telephone number either of the office or residence of the Superintendent of Police, Purba Medinipore. Mrs. Anurada Talwar from her own sources after making several calls could get mobile phone number of the Superintendent of Police, Purba Medinipore and tried for several occasions to talk to the said Superintendent of Police, Purba Medinipore but the said Superintendent of Police, Purba Medinipore did not pick up the telephone on any occasion.

6) Then the team proceeded for Tamluk Sub-Divisional Hospital. The team could get the following informations from the hospital -

i) All together 36 persons both male and female were admitted with bullet injuries, head injuries and different types of other severe injuries. Four police personnel were also admitted in the hospital but in the said hospital record there is no mention as to the nature of injury allegedly suffered by such police personnel. From records it could be ascertained that few patients have been referred to the PG hospital and 4 police personnel have been referred to Nilratan Sarkar Medical College and Hospital. The members of the team then were allowed by the hospital authorities to talk to the patients and a few numbers od the tem entered into the ward where the victims of the incident narrated the entire episode as to how and in what manner such persons were subjected to indiscriminate, reckless firing committed by both police personnel and the goons of the rulling political party.

ii) Then the team could ascertain that several bodies have been brought dead in the hospital and such bodies have been kept in the morgue. Some bodies have been claimed by the relatives but there were still some bodies which were not claimed by the members of family of the deceased victims. In the Sub-Divisional hospital the team could find that a CBI team headed by Sri B.B. Misra, Joint Director of CBI, already arrived there to conduct investigation in terms of the order of the Hon%u2019ble High Court. Then the team at about 00.30 AM left the Tamluk Sub-Divisional Hospital and then stayed at Tamluk at night. In the morning on 16.03.2007 the team preceded for Chandipur Police Station.At about 8.00 AM the team could reach the Chandipur Police Station where the team could meet Mr. Kalyan Banerjee, Additional Superintendent of Police in Charge, Purba Medinipore. The said Additional Superintendent of Police in Charge in a diplomatic way told the team that being a police official the said Additional Superintendent of Police in Charge should not say that the team should not go to Nandigram in violation to the Constitutional guarantee but the said Additional Superintendent of Police in Charge advised the team not to go to Nandigram in the same and similar tune and version of the District Magistrate, Purba Medinipore. The said Additional Superintendent of Police did not receive the copy of the order of the Hon%u201Dble High Court on the alleged ground that the said Additional Superintendent of Police is not a party to the writ petition. The team told the Additional Superintendent of Police that the team will convey the decision of the team after sometimes and accordingly after about 45 minutes the team intimated the said Additional Superintendent of Police in Charge that the team has taken a decision to go to Nandigram. After communicating the decision of the team to go for Nandigram at about 10 AM the team started for Nandigram and could reach at Nandigram Hospital at about 10.45 AM.

iii) In the hospital at Nandigram which is a Primary Health Centre the team could ascertain that all together 69 persons (male, female and children) have been admitted in the said hospital. Several cases of bullet injuries and various other injuries due to blasting of tear gas shell and hand made bombs have been recorded in the record. A few cases of rape by the police personnel and other persons have also been reported by the victims to the hospital.

iv) The team could find that the hospital do not have any facility for rendering treatment to the victims. The members of the victim family were waiting outside the hospital are all trauma stricken. A deep sense of frustration was prevailing in the entire hospital compound at Nandigram. The patients have not been provided with food and minimum medicines which they require. There is no ambulance in the hospital and one ambulance provided by some NGO is not functioning properly. The Block Medical Officer of Health admitted that thre is an acute problem for transportation of the victims to Tamluk due to shortage of ambuance and vehicles.

7) At about 2.30 PM the team proceeded for Sonachura which place is situated at about 20 Kms. from Nandigram Hospital. On their way to Sonachura the team could find thousands of persons were sitting on the road or assembling jointly in some areas.Upon seeing the team reaching the area all the villagers started narrating their story as to how and in what manner the poor villagers have been subjected to torture by the police and the murderers of the ruling political party. The nature of allegations made by the villagers is as follows:

i) On 14.03.2007 the villagers assembled near Bhangabera which is a bridge connecting Nandigram and Khejuri. At Bhangabera. the villagers of both the communities were offering prayers to God and the gathering for offering prayers to the God were comprising of women and children mostly. All on a sudden the police personnel without any notice to the villagers proceeded towards the the villagers offering prayers and without any notice started indiscriminate firing of rubber bullets, killing bullets and tear gas. Several persons were killed at the spot by such indiscriminate police firing. Just after opening of the fire of the police upon the gathering the villagers were trying to escape to a secured place and such villagers were surrounded by the murderers of the local political party who were also in uniform but sandle in their feet and fully armed with local made arms and ammunitions. Children were murdered indiscriminately; bodies have been thrown to nearby Chuniburi river. The children of Primary Schools at least 8 in numbers have been killed by the murderers and then all those children were buried in a particular place near Bhangabera area.

The police and hooligans then ransacked the huts of the villagers, indiscriminately fired the residential huts of the villagers and captured upto the village Sonachura and the adjoining villages. The team could find that a good number of persons who have received various kinds of injuries including bullet injuries not less than 100 in numbers, receiving such bullet injuries are in their respective huts in their village. Such persons could not dare to go to hospital because of threats perpetrated by police and the murderers of the political party. A good number of women have complained that they have been raped, sexually abused and molested by police personnel and the murderers of the political party. The team could ascertain a good number of persons not less than 60 in numbers still remain untraced. The exact figure as to the particulars of the untraced persons could not be ascertained because villagers of some villages could not return to their home so as to ascertain as to how many members of persons are remaining untraced. The team could ascertain that the CBI team reached Bangabhera for the purpose of investigation. The team could not ascertain the exact numbers of victims of killing, rape, injured and untraced.

ii) The team returned to Nandigram Hospital at about 8.00 PM to start for Kolkata.
This brief report is supported by the statements made by the victims recorded by the members of the team personally and also the video clippings and footage.

8) Observation of the team from the trend of statements made by the victims of the incident and the villagers in general.

i) The people of Nandigram have been subjected to torture by the police and the political hooligans in a concerted way;

ii) The villagers, the police have started operation at the first instance for mass killing and the job has been completed by the murderers of the political parties. The peaceful movement of the people of Nandigram to oppose acquisition of land and/or for establishing Special Economic Zone by the State Government under the approved scheme of the Central Government has been sought to be broken and/or demolished by the ruling political party in aid and abatement of the police and the local administration.

iii) A good number of persons have been killed in the action. The exact number of the dead persons, untraced persons, victims of rape and the persons who have been severely injured could not yet been finalized because the villagers of Adhikari Para, Sonachura and the adjoining villages could not return to their respective huts as yet.

iv) The administration have shown their total callousness in securing minimum force for providing medical assistance and for building up confidence upon the people of Nandigram.

vi) The indefinite attitude of the District Magistrate, Purba Medinipore, Superintendent of Police, Purba Medinipore and the other functionaries of the Purba Medinipore administration clearly suggest that those officials have had their definite knowledge and participation in the whole operation of causing indiscriminate firing upon the people of Nandigram.

vii) There is no presence of administration at Nandigram either through the District Magistrate, Purba Medinipore, Superintendent of Police, Purba Medinipore or the other administrative persons.

viii) The dignatories indicated in the order of the Hon%u2019ble High Court to the best of the information received by the team include Mr. Lakhman Seth, the Member of Parliament who is personally responsible for the incident of this mass killing. Informations have collected by the team to the effect that Lakhman Seth deployed professional murderers to commit murders of the villagers at Nandigram and that police started the operation but the rest of the operation has been conducted by the professional murderers engaged and deputed by Lakhman Seth, M.P. and the functionaries of Haldia Development authority and the local CPIM murderers at Haldia.

ix) CBI team conducting investigation may not be successful in unearthing each and every incident of murder, kidnapping, rape and other various kinds of offences in its meticulous details because that CBI team do not have sufficient and adequate expert officials of the CBI and the team constituted by CBI is a skeleton team and is too inadequate to conduct investigation over the incident at Nandigram occurred on 14.03.2007.





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Nazis and Communists are leftists and socialists
by habc on Apr 03, 2007 12:03 PM  Permalink 

Hitler was a socialist. As he himself said:

%u201CWe are socialists, we are enemies of today%u2019s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.%u201D (Speech of May 1, 1927. Quoted by Toland, 1976, p. 306)

Mussolini was a socialist journalist, a socialist editor, the leader of the Italian Socialist Party, and he was once commended by Lenin himself for his efforts on behalf of Socialism. You can%u2019t get any more Socialist than that.

Both National Socialism and Italian Fascism were Socialist, and therefore Leftist, movements. Those are the facts.

Some more quotes by Adolf Hitler
I have learned a great deal from Marxism, as I do not hesitate to admit. The difference between them and myself is that I have really put into practice what these peddlers and pen-pushers have timidly begun%u2026. I had only to develop logically what Social Democracy repeatedly failed in because of its attempt to realize its evolution within the framework of democracy. National Socialism is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with a democratic order. (4. Quoted in Leonard Peikoff, The Ominous Parallels (New York, Stein and Day, 1982), p. 236.)

There is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separates us from it. There is, above all, genuine revolutionary feeling, which is alive everywhere in Russia%u2026. I have always made allowance for this circumstance, and given orders that former Communists are to be admitted to the party at once. The petit bourgeois Social-Democrat and the trade-union boss will never make a National Socialist, but the Communist always will. (4. Quoted in Leonard Peikoff, The Ominous Parallels (New York, Stein and Day, 1982), p. 236.)

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commies
by sudheer mahajan on Apr 03, 2007 12:00 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

great article where is brinda now (most likely celebrating with her sister at ndtv studios )(if you want to know why ndtv is so soft on commies & congress it is because brinda karat is pranoy roys sister in law ie wifes sister).if godhra is so freely branded everytime by NDTV & other traitor channels what abt nandigram.anyway the cpm deserved it they have encouraged muslim to migrate from bangladesh to change the demography of bengal .I hope the cpm will now learn thier lesson that it is better to pamper snakes or skunks & not the muslims because they have no concept of loyalty other than to arabia where they are more likely to be treated as third rate cannon fodder,but then the commies also have no loyalty to this country but to china .....hahahahha two traitors are now discovering the other hahahahh

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RE:commies
by Serial Tourist on Apr 03, 2007 02:27 PM  Permalink
"if you want to know why ndtv is so soft on commies & congress it is because brinda karat is pranoy roys sister in law ie wifes sister"

Correct. Prannoy Roy is also a Christian not a Hindu and is a cousin of Arundhati Roy.

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Good work!
by Kunal Chowdhury on Apr 03, 2007 11:57 AM  Permalink 

Good on you mate! The time for the mass brainwashing in bengal in kerala to be washed away has come. Every small effort will count. Like dominos they will topple. Best of luck with everything.

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CPIM is so cornered today, not a single voice came for its support
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 03, 2007 11:44 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

CPIM is so cornered today, not a single voice came for its support.

Not even VP Singh. Or N Ram.

Buddha had to take cover even from Communists of delhi.

BOTTOMLINE IS: THIS ARROGANCE OF POWER HAS DESTROYED WB'S INDUSTRIALIZATION DRIVE/

& Now Brinda is blaming everybody except CPIM for this mess.

Here is the total list of those whom CPIM is blaming for Nandigram:

BJP
Trinamool
Naxalites
Jamat-E-Ulema Hind
Congress
Capitalists
Hindutvawadi
CIA
USA's corporate interest//

:)-

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RE:CPIM is so cornered today, not a single voice came for its support
by Dimension Four on Apr 03, 2007 02:36 PM  Permalink
You forgot RSP CPI other junior partners of front, they are next in line.

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RE:CPIM is so cornered today, not a single voice came for its support
by Kunal Chowdhury on Apr 03, 2007 12:02 PM  Permalink
Shes a heinous little poodle who will have her villa in delhi and her ambasador with lights as long as she serves her masters' purpose. She has never had a brain. Only a direct duplex comm-link to CPM headquaters.

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RE:CPIM is so cornered today, not a single voice came for its support
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 04, 2007 01:51 AM  Permalink

Brinda Goes to Europe for Holidaying too with her sister Ms Roy (Wife of Pranay Roy:)-) when its Summer in Delhi.

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