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Vande matram
by ASHISH ZUTSHI on Sep 07, 2006 02:12 PM  Permalink 

very true. any muslim who thinks islam will be in danger by singing vande matram is not a Indian , but a enemy of india.
Muslim brothers ,pls dont take it otherwise, hindu can bow before a mosque, but muslim is rigid or thinks it is against islam to bow before a temple.
Muslims hatred against hindus starts from MADRASSAS .
If pakistan is a islamic country, then india is also a hindu country and if muslims dont like india, they should get any type of visa and settle in muslim countries. This is the LAST SOLUTION. JAI BHARAT

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Vande mataram
by nandita on Sep 07, 2006 02:11 PM  Permalink 

i wish every muslim should be like him . then we dont have to fall under the unscrupulous people .
the muslims ,who stayed back in India trulely loved their land .i stronly believe it. . i could not forget the picture of a muslim taxi driver ,who lost everything in a Mumbai riot few years back.he was crying and asking how he will prove that he is proud to be an Indian !
i could not control my tears still today ,remembering it.

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Kindly Correct the HeadLines
by Munawar on Sep 07, 2006 02:08 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I would like to bring to your notice that , the views decribed by Moulana kalbe is his personal. And it cannot be termed as " Muslim Cleric" instead it should have been reffered by his name " Moulana Kalbe". As he is a Shiite and cannot head whole of the Muslim community.
I heard his name for the first time , and he jumping on this subject from the Middle of the nowhere is rediculous.
His views cannot be given so much importance.

There are so many other issues which needs to be talked about for better and developing India.
we are living in 21st modern and progressive century and these subjects should not hinder us in any sense.

These subjects are brought up by politicain for there own cause, and are pre-organised.
And the people should understand it and should not indulge them selves in any kind of hatered among themselves.

JAI HIND!

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RE:You are a typical Islamic Jehadi
by Riva T Philip on Sep 08, 2006 01:57 PM  Permalink
You are a typical Islamic Jehadi


Regrads,

Rivaji

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Vande Mataram
by ashok kumar Saraswat on Sep 07, 2006 02:00 PM  Permalink 

It is a sorrowful and depressive from any religion or community to play negative role for the society. Are they really following and applying all the rules and regulations on themselves whatever have been prescribed in their religious/holy books. They are simply damaging the harmony among the different religions

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Shia cleric on Vande Matram
by dinesh on Sep 07, 2006 01:57 PM  Permalink 

I totally agree with the view point. I also agree that if there is any dispute on the word 'vande' then this can be sorted out round the table. I personally feel that there is no harm in singing Vande Matram by people of any community. We should not include religion into this. By doing this I feel we were giving wrong signals to our upcoming generation.

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We are not Shia
by Faheem Kazi on Sep 07, 2006 01:55 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Let Shia sing Vande Mataram we are not Shia, We are Sunnis and our Clerics won't allow because they know when you utter something un-islamic, you are out of Islam.

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RE:We are not Shia
by Azad on Sep 07, 2006 09:42 PM  Permalink
You people will never learn to live peacefully, fisrtly its muslim and non muslim and then shia -sunni.

I am just ashamed that we find different ways to distance our countrymen.

Disgrace

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You are trying to cover up
by Nagesha on Sep 07, 2006 01:45 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Mr. Sadiq,
For your information, this issue was not raked by BJP or any other party, but by your own, Imam Bhukhari. Also, talking abt the patriotism of some BJP muslim leaders, it needs no questioning. Just because the entire nation starting cursing the Islam community, that you are now making all these democratic statements. Where were you all these days after Bhukhari called for the opposition of Vande Mataram? Where were you when the clerics issued fatwa for those muslims who sing Vande Mataram? When clerics asked parents not to send them to school on 7th September? Now you are just trying to put up a modest face.
As you rightly mentioned, the nation has woken up. But not in identifying the BJP's tactics, but in differentiating between patriots and fundamentalists.

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RE:You are trying to cover up
by Riva T Philip on Sep 08, 2006 02:00 PM  Permalink
Mr. Nagesh,

Maulana Sadiq is a Shia and a Patriotic Indian Muslim, unlike Bukhari, who is a hardcore Talibani Jehadi.

During Emergency, Jan Sangh aligned with Bukhari, Samajwadis, Communists, Janatas, etc against Congress.

Bukhari supported BJP many times, including last Parliament election.


Regards,

Rivaji

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Vande Matram
by Sarfaraz on Sep 07, 2006 01:38 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I think there is no wrong by singing Vande Matram , if the word Vande means just a part of love to the nation but if it is worship then it is impossible for muslims as we don't think of worshiping any other than Allah (the only creator)including our Prophets.
I feel this is just Political issue rather than loyalty to the nation, B'coz recently i gone through a news on NDTV, on which i saw there are lots of ministers including Rajya Sabha & Lok Sabha who even don't know who has written VANDE MATRAM, also seen ministers are moving around when our national anthem is going on in background in parliament which is shameful.I want to suggest all ministers to recruit their atleast one family member into the indian Army, or Police Force as a part of loyalty to the nation.
Respect to the nation or anything else must not be for self benefit, it should be in the heart.


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RE:Vande Matram
by Riva T Philip on Sep 08, 2006 01:58 PM  Permalink
Sarfaraz,

You are a nationalist Indian Muslim.

Shia-as are patriotic Muslims, unlike Sunni Deobandis.


Regards,

Rivaji

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Begging you Muslims .. Please dont sing it
by prashant on Sep 07, 2006 01:37 PM  Permalink 

""""Sadiq, who commands a large following among Shia Muslims across the globe, told Senior Contributor Sharat Pradhan in Lucknow that boycotting schools would send a wrong signal and he saw nothing wrong in students singing the song without uttering the word 'Vande'"""""


Dont you think Enough of Insult you have done to Nation .. ?????????????

Prashant.

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