PKL. May 30,Tuesday, 2006. This endless recycling of the Reservation saga from the beginning of 20th Century to the period of Bindheshwari Prasad Mandal and V.P.Singh 27% reservartions for other Backwards had mired Indian educated families in frustration bordering on desperation leading some to self-immolations. The Creamy Layers of the Backwards have been asked to be denied this benfit by the apex court.Arjun Singh as wily politician has started this controversy ,now, that embarrasses all parties, none can oppose this concession as sure ticket for votes to elections , and yet are perplexed by the agitating students who are increasingly ferocious, may end up once again in gory self-immolations! Farcical. we should commit ourselves to basic education and gainful skilled training for rural skilled employment and self-employment to all, and I mean it literally all the elite prejudice for being salt ofthe earth /creamy layers just ignored. D.Goel
Reading the article, It is true that, South india is silent over the issue. We have 50% reservation in Karnataka, 69% reservation in Tamil Nadu. Karnataka is still worst we have 33% reservation for women in all places. This is totally disgusting, people are not reacting because they have found ways to live, very few percentage of people are going to Government jobs. other's are taking up jobs in Private companies. many of them are moving out of India. My main concern here is "How India is going to become developed country?" We are following a wrong policy. If we take Karnataka, for example there is no life for a General merrit boy. He has to compete only for 33.5 seats. he has to compete with 100% population. This is really frustrating. For the past 50 years we are giving reservations and say we have to further increase it because it has not reached the needy. Is it the solution? this is the failure of our governemnts. Why no one is thinking about this? Remove reservation as a whole, or bring reservation only for Economically backward class. If Ambedkar can come up without any reservations, why cannot others?
Because of quota system beeing high in Tamilnadu, did it affect the quality of Medical services and Engineers? A big NO. They are far far better in these fields than other states. Also When there is no difference in Cut OFF marks between OC and BC, to remove the creamy layer, the government has introduced MBC quota which benefits the people from rural areas.
And Finally, how many students from IIT and IIM remain indian citizen?
a welcome one.But why implementing a part only. implement uniformly at national level restricting total reservation to 50%.
what about land reforms.Acquire all the lands which are held in the hands of the heirs of olden days kings/emperors/jamindars/etc.. and distribute the same to all.
what about implementation of reservation of economically and educationally backward classes.
RE:Equality
by ameeta on May 30, 2006 11:25 PM Permalink
dear gowri what are you trying to say?.. do u think TN is that good?.. secular education doesnt change your sanskaara... u may have millions .. but u are still what u are ... please take a look at the drunks, rickshaw drivers , the old .. a hard lok at your state and tell. dont make us believe that the ideal u have inside ur mind is a reality outside.. yuck.. most rotten state..
RE:Equality
by Raghu on May 30, 2006 03:15 PM Permalink
Gouri, i appriciate the fact that you benifited from the reservation. But why are the tamils leaving tamilnadu ( Oh what did you say... socially developed!!. ) My dear friend , You are saying reservation is good becouse it benifits you. tommorrow government will bring a law the all SC/ST/OBC will get a free food becouse they are deprived of good jobs . And i am sure there will be lot of educated people ( or so called educated people ) support it. What is good for us , may not be the right thing for the nation.
Reservation in TN has indeed done a good job, both socailly and economically progressing the oppressed classes. Having studied engineering in a rural institute i can definetly vouch for that. But the issue is are we going to follow what was decide 50 years back. Can we afford to go ahead in this 21 st century with an 19 th century mindset. I remember a brahmin friend of my father, telling me that if you visit TAMBRAS datebase 8 out of 10 guys are out of the country. Just because we denied them opporutnities they found their only way out. This we were opprsed hence we will suppress now philosophy is highly uncivilised. Cant we tell british that "yes now we have to rule you". Its not tit for tat. Its the question of finding solutions in a world that has undergone in a sea change from the time this reservation was first introduced.
And for all those who are ao anti reservation , have you ever spend some time in any village of India. If not please do that before commenting on this issue. TN has progressed socailly and economically inspite of all this. THink TN is the only state where people dont use their caste name as your surname. So lets take an anachronistic decision
RE:I agree
by Sharath on May 31, 2006 03:29 PM Permalink
Hey, you say "THink TN is the only state where people dont use their caste name as your surname". Please tell me what do names with surnames like Goundar, Chettiar, Mudaliar, Nadar, Pillai, Iyengar, Iyer etc. convey other than castes? So, TN has not got rid of the caste system by all the reservations that people boast of. The reservations have in no way helped the poorest of the poor amongst the sc/ st communities. Only, the now-called OBCs, who practice casteism with more openly and with more cruelty than Brahmins (they are afraid of the government's action if they do)will become stronger and more dominant in TN. Most of the ministers in all the states of India belong to these category of people and they do not need the 27% reservation that the governemt is proposing. So, the only sensible way is to strengthen the education at the primary and secondary levels for the lower classes of people, subsidize education heavily for them upto graduation level and then allow them to compete for higher studies / jobs.Reservation on caste basis should be practiced for the next 5-10 years at the most and then reservation should be purely on economic basis. Punish the politicians who don't do it
RE:So, south india is a developed nation,
by arun on May 31, 2006 02:57 PM Permalink
This shows why Tamil Nadu is such a stupid state after all with stupids like you comments so ignorently
let there be reservations everwhere but at least leave 5% of the institutes of higher learning free brom castism so that even SC/ST/OBCs and Other castes can forget about this castism and work togather without any prejudices.
Wow.., why have you stopped demanding reservation in military and sports. Is it because you guys are having physical advantage?
Already there is restlessness and anger in the youth against reservation, this continued backing by government one day may lead to a civil war and then system will correct itself.
