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Do our institutes connect with the real India?
by mallika on May 23, 2006 08:21 PM  Permalink 

My dear Tarun Jain , what you are talking about is utopia where medical institutions will benefit from age old tribal medicines and stuff like that. Do you think a modern MBBS instituion will even support this. The idea of mixing modern medicine with alternative has not really caught uo in India so its a waste of time thinkinh about it.
What you are saying is true of course these people should be given an opportunity ao why not be based on economic status. So these tribals and Sc/St people are below poverty line so let them have it but so are so many of forward caste people. One example I had a friend in my engineering college who was SC and had rank of 13000 yet managed to get a seat in our govt college.I also know of a forward caste guy who had the same rank but ended getting a capitation fee seat in a private college. And both these people had the same economic status and both fall under the same category of average students. so what was the reason that the guy had to take a bank loan to get is education?
What Ia saying is that reservation should be such that both these people get the same sort of seat and it is possible if only its on economic basis.

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Reservations
by Vijaykumar on May 23, 2006 07:32 PM  Permalink 

It is time again that the Caste system is abolished in India.Reservation is spoiling the national fabric of unity in the country shame on these politicians who have lost all hope of people voting and using these for their paltry gains.

The reservation connected with the caste systems cannot be dictated by any goverment to remove the same .It should start from each of our homes can we do thatwill any of you drop your family caste names of your names .The matrimonial services /websites
which propogate the caste system of marriage has to go the caste system is so deep rooted in india from the medivial times that it is difficult to change it overnight

But marching towards globally we need to have only one sytem which shall be a system of merit and only merit .

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Reservation in Educational Institutions
by ANTARA SARKAR on May 23, 2006 02:52 PM  Permalink 

Even thogh the proposed reservation is for all the central universities, it seems the media is more worried about IITs and IIMs. Any right thinking person would not agree that reservation is the solution to bring the traditionally deprived classes to the main stream of the society. The government should look into other options which would be effective.
This is also the time to evaluate the performance and contribution to the society of the IITs and IIMs. They are being treated as the 'holi cow' by the media. They pickup the brightest students through competitive exams, who do very well in their professional life. These students would have done well in life even if they would have graduated from an ordinary institution. If the IIM graduates are so great they should be asked by the government to take over a sick industry and then turn it around in 3 years time. They are offered out of proportion salary by multinationals (already they are doing well) and our news papers make it a headline. The IITs must have received millions of rupees from various government organizations for carring out research projects over the years. It would be interesting to know how many of them are usefuful

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Good article on Reservation.
by ANIL KUMAR LAL on May 23, 2006 01:55 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

A very good article based on facts and reality. Surely author had done a great service for the underprivileged. These poor people
don't have courage to speak their voice. They are just on the mercy of so the called guardians of society.

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RE:Good article on Reservation.
by vandana on May 24, 2006 01:58 PM  Permalink
Oh Yes. So you are saying that Mr Jain can see things from virginia much better than the rest of the country men from within the country?
And could you please explain the meaning of 'underprivileged'? Does someone become less privileged just by being born in a certain caste, howmuchever well to do he/she economically is?
So are the children of our great ministers/politicians/MLAs etc underprivileged because they have a caste cerfiticate to say so?
And how fair is it for the people belonging to general category who spend the best of their teen years preparing for the competitions and a CASTE cerfiticate holder is given preference over them?
What makes you think that reservations/quotas are THE solution to the problem than helping them economically and providing better primary educational facilities so that they can compete with mainsteam students in a more deserving manner.
Are you listening?


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Caste
by raghavan on May 23, 2006 01:55 PM  Permalink 

I hail by birth from uppercaste. Is it my fault to be considered as uppercaste or any one else as lower caste. Is there any way without marriage contract for a person to change his caste in our indian law. Or the government can abolish all upper caste by ordinance in a single day to scrap caste system. Or atleast scrap all upper caste names from the records so that in future it will vanish. is there any way out.



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How to get maximum from reservation
by dr. naveen khanna on May 23, 2006 01:43 PM  Permalink 

Reservation is meant to bring up the backward section s of the society at par with rest of India. Backwardness can be economical,regional,social, geographical etc.to project caste as the only mode of backwardness is nothing but politics for creating votebank .
The reservation policy being promoted is not going to benefit the genuinely backward people of the society.The only persons who are going to benefit are the wards of so called scheduled/backward persons who have already availed reservation and are now enjoying the well-to-do posts in society.
The reservation seats should be alloted to only those persons whose parents have not availed the benefit so that other backward families can be benefited.Moreover it should be at basic & lower levels of education and job facilities like small scale industries should be promoted so that the people as well as the regions they belong to are benefited.
Suppose an OBC/SC person from interior of Rajasthan gets job in an MNC in Delhi on basis of reservation, he is going to shift to Delhi,leaving behind the same backward Rajasthan.So next time reservation should be given to another person countryside not this person .this way more & mor

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How Sustainable is it ?
by Garima Singh on May 23, 2006 01:01 PM  Permalink 

The article did make for some interesting (and normative) reading.

However,all said and done.., and without going into the right(pun intended)and wrong of the entire reservation policy "updates", it has to be understood that NO CONFLICT CAN BE RESOLVED BY CREATING NEW CONFLICTS!!
Such steps clearly lack a sustainable approach, and are more of roll-over populist measures undertaken by ALL governments in power.

The government would do well to consider what the real need of the hour is -- expressed beautifully and indeed bravely by Sachin Maggo who has just broken his hunger strike after eight days, as he was close to collapse --"I went on strike because I want the government to help the backward classes by starting more primary schools. By imposing these quotas, the government is working in a reverse direction."

This is the silver lining..and perhaps the acievement of education .. that we are now able to identify(and express)our true needs.
Garima.









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