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Review of Indo Pak Dialogue,surely necessary!
by S Balasundar on Jul 18, 2006 06:01 PM  Permalink 


I entirely endorse the article ,which is well written and argued.
May I ask the PM of India,why should we hide under hypocracy all the way, when the real Rougue state
Pak has deceived India so many times and they go on with the so called agenda for making peace with india... Is that the shame we have to bear for our next generation, Dr. Singh.! Why is it that goes against your conscience,- I hope you will have one
personal, than what is mortgaged to your party President!- that is ot allowing you to speak out.
It's rather shocking both you and Honme minister
are not found giving any fitting reply other than
telling Mumbaites to keep calm.. As for one, I shall not do what you philosophically demand of .
We should live courageously, not bowing to the
Islamic fundamentalists.
truly, S.Balasundar, Mumbai 18.7.06.


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I dont agree
by sg on Jul 18, 2006 04:12 PM  Permalink 

What the writer is saying is an extension of what has already been said and done. Take no action against Pak.
My responce to his suggestion are: What good has it got the Indian govt and people in terms of security with building a good name under the name of civil liberty and in the cocktail party curcuit. All countries he mentioned have already mentioned of their unhappiness over the incident, so. None is explecite in mentioning Pak.
US India relations according are souring new heights but I dont see them in that context. Its purely a business deal with the nuclear reactors with too many loop holes. India needs a secure energy agreement without any riders.
US is the biggest rouge supporting state and chooses its allies and enemies to what suits them, nothing wrong with that. But some of their closest allies anre are worst enemies. If we have any souring realtions with them and if they even understand why cant they come out openly and support in closing the terror camps in POK, and say that go ahead and we will take no action. On the contrary we will build international opinion in your favor.
Point 4 is rubbish cant speak to any Pak leader till terror stops.

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Last but not the least
by Jayaraman on Jul 18, 2006 02:26 PM  Permalink 

The Last but not the least is the Drain on our resources. Why should there be a one way traffic when it comes to J & K.

Otherwise, I find the author quite clear.

The key point missed out:

When are we going to show aggression in our policies. Why should there always be a "Peace" based resolution, this has taken our country into pieces. It is time we sent a strong message that when it comes to discussin "Peace" we will have the Mace in our hands.

Jai Hind

Jayaraman

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Fundamental Issues
by Dr. Venkata Avadhanam on Jul 18, 2006 12:25 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I have been working in UK for 4 years,I had the chance to mix and mingle with UK nationals as well as Pakistanis. I felt that western world is least considered about anti-terrorism support it should provide to India, they seem to hold to the view that Indo-Pak conflict should continue and both do not progress. Tey are confident about their strategies to defend them selves. Unlike India, UK has a cut throat philosophy on terrorists in it ,for example,underground shooting of an innocent foriegner as a terror suspect and high alert and threat posed on muslim minorties periodically. They have a roubust policy and committment to exceute that. I doubt the honesty and sincerity of Indian politicians. The doubts doubled with the vote bank gimmics such as minority reservations and scams. There is a sea of difference in Indian public mentality, media thinking and governement functioning compared to the west world. Of course, terrorism is global but the roots are elsewhere. I think there are many issues to be resolved in the combat of terrorism but what progress can be made with such a mediocre and corrupt beurocrates and politicians? A change in average Indian thinking is all that required.

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RE:Fundamental Issues
by Ashutosh Misra on Jul 19, 2006 12:02 PM  Permalink
Dear Dr. Avdhanam

My sincere appreciation for you having taken time to read my piece and responded to it as well. I completely agree with you on the point that UK has a cut throat policy vis-a-vis terrorism. This is where I believe India can make use of that policy in pressurising terrorism sponsoring countries. UK now also realises that there will be many fauz paux occuring while dealing with terrorism such a s the killing of an inncoent Brazilian in the subway. This has muted several voices which were talking of human rights excesses in J&K.

I totally agree that public perceptions in India have to change and let me assure u I think slowly but surely they are changing. This would very soon put pressure on the government to take some meaningful and concrete actions against Pakistan, whether diplomatically or otherwise.

With Pakistan there is no vote bank policy as foregin policy issues have seldom been domestic politics issues, which is very heartening. The moment this ceases to happen, matters would get worse. On others issues such as reservation and scams I endorse your veiws completely.

I believe by 2015 India should be in a formidable position to achieve peace

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Policies with Pakistan
by Rahul on Jul 18, 2006 11:27 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I totaly agree with Mr.Ashutosh Misra on the issue. But the only Question left in my mind is are our politicians able to understand the need to change the policies with Pakistan or it will take time till
their close are a victim of such a terrorism.

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RE:Policies with Pakistan
by Ashutosh Misra on Jul 19, 2006 11:49 AM  Permalink
Dear Vivek

Thnaks for reading my piece and appreciating it as well. It is heartening to know that a young man in this country is not numb to such acts and takes time reflect on them despite his preoccupation with studies, job hunt or work. In fact I must say Bravo!
Ashutosh

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RE:Policies with Pakistan
by Ashutosh Misra on Jul 19, 2006 11:53 AM  Permalink
Dear Rahul

Thanks for your appreciation for my article. I am glad that there are people who do read such piece and agree as well. I am happy that there is sizable constituency of people who are not yearning for serious response to Pakistan. Believe as this constituency grows vertically and horizontally it will begin to exert more pressure on the government. Keep it up.
Cheers
Ashutosh

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Time to review the peace process
by p.m.rao on Jul 18, 2006 11:03 AM  Permalink 

India should go for talks with Pakistan with a pre-condition (and time frame )of removing anti-India camps in their country. These should be continuously monitored.
Even other wise also with the help of UN forces (India leading the force) India should eliminate the militant camps in Pakistan and Bangladesh. It will be good for the people of India and peace loving people (predominant) in Pakistan and Bangladesh also. That will be lasting solution for the problem.

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need of the hour
by Vivek on Jul 18, 2006 10:47 AM  Permalink 

Bravo, We need more voices like these

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peace process with pakistan
by ram on Jul 18, 2006 10:47 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

india should continue the peace process with pakistan only to gain economic and trade benefits. otherwise peace process should be stopped fortwith.

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RE:peace process with pakistan
by Dr Ashutosh Misra on Jul 19, 2006 11:46 AM  Permalink
Dear Swati,
Let me thank you for going through my piece and having time to respond to it. I appreciate this very much.
Ashutosh

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wow
by swati on Jul 18, 2006 10:39 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

but ashutosh is anyone hearing? where is the political will? please mail it to the PMO if he has any will and power to implement it... isn't the entire bureucracy busy in gaining political mileage in all this too. the peace process i.e the dialogues and troops reiteration should have stopped long ago since the blasts started in j&k. when will the government wake up to it's public outcry!!!

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correcting misperceptions
by Ashutosh Misra on Jul 19, 2006 11:41 AM  Permalink
Dear Lt. Col Laxminarayana (retd)
First of all let me thank you for reading my piece and taking time to comment on it. Atleast I can believe that people do read and these efforts do not go in vain.
I would have appreciated had you used a more polite and decent language in making your point expecially given your background like true fauji.

Had I been an advisor to the government as u alleged I would not have ripped apart the policy as I did in my piece and endorsed the policy of last 56 years, as u yurself admitted. I understand your anger against Pakistan, but I am one of those who prefers to exercise all options before resorting to military actions. Believe me diplomatic pressures sometimes do more, especially in the context of India's growing stature. When India can move the world around its interests in the Nuclear field, why not terrorism which affects all in equal degrees.

Bush would soon leave Oval office, but as relations between India and the US show immense promise for the future I do not think it would be difficult for India to use the US pressure to its advantage. Hope u can see the larger picture and not jump to some indecent kneejerk reactions nexttime.

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Time to review the peace process with Pakistan
by Lt Col V N Laxminarayana (Retd) on Jul 18, 2006 10:32 AM  Permalink 

Dear Ashutosh Misra,

It's height of imagenation that we achive peace in these 6 policy options to pursue. I don't know how to express my words for such person like U who are in the chair of Defence and Strategic Analyses. I think U are taking payment as a adviser. It is waste of tax payer money. R U a fool? Do u think that this will yield result which we are doing it for the past 55 to 60 years?
Please leave that chair and try to spend time as a common man under the threat of ulters. U peoples are sitting is securied place and give guide lines. I wish some of U loved one have not killed in attack. I wish it should happen soon to U, then U will understand the pain.
Why some one Bush should come to our help? If one has to see haven he/she has to die. to end terrorism no option but to attack the rootcause, i.e. training camps. It may be Pak or elsewhwre.
"Hezedas" like u are rulling this country. I hope Rediff people convay this to U.

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