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Each Others Benifits of Peace become Cause of Talks Failures.
by Bagmar Satish C. A. on Oct 08, 2006 05:47 PM  Permalink 

Enemity and disbelief when such high then one party to conflict bears loss of rs.5 but does not agree to benifits of re 1 to enemy.it simply regards it as nursing snake only.This is what we see in indo pak relations.Be it trde blockage or energy blockage.India feels i billion dollars royalty to pak is strengthening its warhood and Pakistan feels cheap energy to indian economy means boost to indian economy. So much is deep rooted enemity and doubts as history is full of it only.
Now if conflict between two is ended by common friend Communists brokering like Shimla or recently in Nepal,India should not think that now Pakistan shall prepare for war and pakistan should not feel that India shall become big economic power as India has infrastrecture and HRD but no peace.In long run both shall stabilize and there shall be no need for both to stand in que before World Bank and white house for strategic support.
Third world sofar has paid 3 times it borrowed from w. Bank as interest and principle is still due.Indo Pak peace means trde and energy flow in Asia and SAARC,ASEAN and very vitally Shenghai 6 huge trade and employment to wipe out terrorizam only.

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No hurrid going, do every homework first.
by Bagmar Satish C. A. on Oct 08, 2006 11:03 AM  Permalink 

Indo Pak relation has roots in centuries old history since demise of Prithviraj Chauhan.Similarly Kashmir is not potato or tomato to be shared so easily.
Certain forces interested to detrail talks endlessly shall ensure failures in hurried proposals with ackward allegations.
Pakistan has never in public blamed indian role in Bangaladesh but wnt ahead with its policies in Kashmir and punjab.Similarly China quietly kept northeast seperatists in reserve.
Now it is most condusive atmosphere to first sit quietly for 6 months without any rhetorics.Do hamework thoroughly to understand each others.Already both sides have minimum deterrent and it was only rhetorics by BJP govt. as it also could not cross LOC of Bangaladesh also when 16 BSF jawans of Advani's BSF were brutally killed.Rajnathsing meets Israel ambassador but he too knows how for manths israel was engaged by Hezbullas and how mighty america and NATO are tired in such enemiless war and how India seperating B. desh in 14 days faught Kargil for 75 days.
Now atmosphere is most condusive with common friend communists.Let there be nothing in hurry but with every homework.

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Solution for 5 decades problem is not instant.
by Bagmar Satish C. A. on Oct 07, 2006 02:59 PM  Permalink 

Except during rajiv Gandhi's time and at present,Kashmir issue and Indo Pak relations were used by both sides to score points only.During Pandit Nehru's time it had roots in preindependance period and in two nation theory partition.Pakistan was desperately doing lot unethical but india under towring Panditji had global appeal.Also Islam communists were taboos .In 1962 iran had warned Pakistan not to help communist China and pakistan kept quiet.Also our Israel policy enlisted Arab support and role in nAM had wide sympathy.during indiraji's time it was used for retaining powers in both sides and during Shastrijis time Pakistan took advantage of weak p. m. it deemed shastriji.
Rajiv Gandhi was first congress p. M. ending with no war with pakistan and with sincere efforts to normalize relations.But his sad demise and then America not happy with peace resulted in communalization and nuclarization and rest is history.
Musharraf now responds with America only for past and has independent plans for future of Pakistan.india also has L. F. backed govt.Let us now take even a decade but not detrail peace anymore endlessly for this 5 decades complications.

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Trifurcate for better administration and not for communal causes.
by Bagmar Satish C. A. on Sep 30, 2006 10:47 AM  Permalink 

Now Pakistan has got conventional and nonconventional deterrent is amply proved when even vajpeyee govt. too did not cross LOC both in Kargil and Operation parakram after attack on indian Parliment.Also now pakistan is member of Shenghai6 .Now communist Russia is not only with india.And this is perhaps best development as both countries must open books of account to quantify costs both direct and indirect of this conflict.And had it not been there these two countries would have even loaned World Bank.
Better late than never,now young generation of this region must work jointly in pluralistic way to put our vast resources to effective growth with quality,quantity and equility.
One gets most impressed to read young kashmiri leaders plans for Kashmir and now experinced G. N. Azad is C. M. Instead of trifurcating the state on religious grounds,there should be trifurcation in line with maharashtra Development board and instead of political autonomy there should be economic and administrative autonomy with partition of such brillient young kashmiris.Earlier it was chaos that was suiting Pakistan but now LOC sanctity is assured for ever in changed environment.

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But The solution has to be SECULAR.
by Bagmar Satish C. A. on Sep 29, 2006 10:42 AM  Permalink 

in Kashmir it is like 7 blinds defining elephant shape.Congress wants all solutions with Shimla Agreement,BJP wants abolition of 370 and trifurcation on religious geounds,National conferance believes in Kashmiriat with autonomy,Hurriyat wants reunified Kashmir as sovereign state,pDP believes in healing touches,Yasir Malik and Shabbir Shaha want azadi so on and so forth.and as a result sufferers are average kashmiris making this heaven of globe as hell.And as a result of RSS theary of communal solution and abolition of 370 valley is full of seperatists and Pakistan is approached by such seperatists and after 1971 bangaladesh event Pakistan is training them.
Now it is internationalised issue after it became communal nuclarization post Pokhran 2.
but india has more muslims than pakistan and this subcontinent is with 50 crores muslima and 90 crores Hindus.Heart of this region is pluralistic and secularists.for some time it was communalised but really one should see how at Malegaon Muslims made chain to save hindu girls and how Hindus donated blood for Muslims.80% Indian Parliment is secular.Let us not open pandora's box with communal solution in SAARC

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Thanks Bush ,but solution for Kashmir is in Asia.
by Bagmar Satish C. A. on Sep 24, 2006 10:55 AM  Permalink 

7.7 is an act of London based kashmiri terrorists and hence Bush asks mush how he can help Indo pak to resolve kashmir.
Actually 7 mitaculasly hightech blasts in every corner of london is act of Alquada to protest against England as allie of America. But now Bush wants to shift it to SAARC.
Rajiv Gandhi and Benazir had agreed to work for Asian Union and Rajiv Gandhi visited china also.He also took risk of sending in lanka IPKF to eraze past.Gujral and Nawaz equation was so superb that after pokhran 2 by Vajoeyee Nawaz telephoned first to Gujral.But by then it was all late as America planned to communalize nuclarization of this region and Madanlal khurans challanged pakistan to show time and place.And then we saw Sino pakistan N. korea prolifiration and pakistan Bangaladesh reunification.Rest is history.
Surprisingly nobody realises how without china indo Pak relations can never improve.china is occupier of 45000 sq. k. M. of kashmir too and now it is leader of ASEAN.All in india are shouting pakistan pakistan but what about China a key player?
UsA has no role here but where is Indian foreign Minister?In white house?When shall india be soverign?

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India to realize america is friend of its interests first.
by Bagmar Satish C. A. on Sep 23, 2006 10:42 AM  Permalink 

Havok is created by president musharraf how America enlisted his support in war against terrorizam by coerssive means.How America is now pressurising him by drama of Afganistan president awaking all of a sudden.Nobody knows what this coersive Bush said to dr. Singh when he patted his back when he was in india recently.there are reports how gujral approached Clinton to convince him of india needing to be nuclear but America wanted it by vajpeyee and latter Clinton sided with china and post 11.9 Bush rejected advani's intelligence and threatened Musharraf to join and now musharraf is destabilized too.But now in india it is congress govt backed crucially by L. F. and hence bush has to rely on Musharraf with added pressure from india and Afaganistan and from within Pakistan.
We all in India must take stock seriously and note how Musharraf is just Pawn and Laden is King and it is in interest of india to understand how America is unreliable and incompetent and counterproductive.
bangaladesh seperation and subsequent 100 cut policy,babri and Gujrat, Attack on parliament ,Pokhran and Kargil are such chain that made us prisoner of past endlessly.both must avoid itnow

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Talks must end being prisoners of past endlessly.
by Bagmar Satish C. A. on Sep 22, 2006 11:06 AM  Permalink 

Being prisoners of past makes it endless unless some major breakthrough is planned with determination.Mumbai blast is an act of alquida and it has nothing to do with Indopak but has everything to do with Indo America friendship and India is targeted as American allie is evident from hightech terrorizam like 7.7 and 11.9.and india must not think that only Pakistan is responsible though post 1971 Pakistan fears India might do with pOK same as it did with bangaladesh.and it is with its continued 1000 cut policy than war.And when BJP nuclarize region Pakistan availed it more is a fact.question is howlong we 2 to be such prisoners of past endlessly when we are nuclear powers and india too has history of kesaria against zihad?What for we are such prisoners of past?only talks can end this endless trap of prisoners of past with history of conflicts,wars, cold wars,conspiracies,nucleralization and communalization.
America is friend of none and now America talks of sending troops to Pakistan in search of Laden.Actually it is time to think what without musharraf?Nuclear arsenal shall fall is whose hand?And terrorizam is spread in 60 countries with alquada 111000 human bombs.

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Progress is not possible without peace.
by Satish Bagmar C. A. on Sep 21, 2006 05:59 PM  Permalink 

BJP must note that american economy now is with huge deficit of 5 trillion dollars.War actual cost is 500 billion dollars only.This must open BJP's eyes that war love of BUsh has lot and lot opportunity cost too.Average American is scared and economy never progresses in fear.And America knows how its major actions shall see lot of retaliations at several places now. Otherwise America has much might than Vajpeyee had .Wars now are not faught on borders now.
Bjp needs to understand how Talibanozation of pakistan and Saffranization of india is costing region heavily.Take case of china. It progresses as it keeps borders and internal peace.BJP may quantify direct costs of wars and 7 lac soldiers exclusively protecting Kashmirnd even then Advani could not rehabilitate a single pandit.And in this era of globalization we must analyse opportunity loss of not reaching atleast preindependance trade among Pak India B. desh forget of Gas transmissions changing face of region.Forget of tourizam in J & k and hydro power potential and Asian trade and Asia Europe trade.Talabination and Saffranization is making us laughing stock,true India too has Rajputs, sikha ,Maratha traditions.

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Talks is welcome step.
by Bagmar Satish C. A. on Sep 20, 2006 04:03 PM  Permalink 

Talks does not mean surrender.BJP after nuclear aggression had challanged pakistan but nuclear bomb became cricket ball and despite attack on parliament BJP had to talks.why BJP did not cross LOC even during Kargil and operation Parakram (?).BJP should not politicize it and should act as responsible opposition.
We cannot afford to overlook global developments now.Bush has failed in his misadventure in Iraq and now even nATO in Afganistan is not wholehearted and no country now ready to send troops there and Taliban has no shortage of fighters.500 human bombs are ready and as pointed out by Musharraf Taliban has civil links and we saw how civil support worked in Dhakka in 1971 and how it failed Indian Army in colombo.Indian p. m. may be happy tobe without foreign minister but not only taliban is overcomming NATO but in Lebanan too no country send troops wholeheartedly.And in iraq bush only know roadmap and endobjectives as Musharra asked.And now young leadership of Venezulae,iran ,syria,Lebanan and palastine may not wait till bush attacks.Londonmumbai,Malegaon and newyork have shown how retaliation shall be serious.Talks is only solution as bJP too had 6 years rule.

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