This is terrible. I am apalled that a mob has killed two policemed who were merely doing their duty. I am amazed that a mob of people can confront policemen who are doing their duty. I also find it hard to believe that these people have any justification to attack the police. Most of these people are probably migrants from other states who have brought in the culture of violence from their own states. The guilt must be punished and the government should see if any of the structures there are illegal and demolish them immediately and take stern action to ensure that everyone follows the law instead of taking it in their own hands. We also need a properly trained, motivated, equipped and disciplined riot police which we sorely lack.
RE:Two policemen killed in Bhiwandi
by shiva on Jul 06, 2006 05:53 PM Permalink
You are exactly correct. One thing is sure nature is allways above human being.Nature itself created humanbeing.As they are over clever they themseleves divided byreligions, regions, colorsand etc.. with this much infighting itself our where population figure. Just think once if no hate is not there we can not imagin what was the poulation and what maight be consequences. Thats why the supersoul is allways correct.
Now the "secular" government will suspend some officials, question those who permitted construction, and come up with some silly explanation to cover its ass of support to such extreme elements.
Law and order goes to hell. Some hefty compensation to the lumpen elements who were killed in when the mob was fired upon by the police.
The police become the Bakara in the process. NCP, and Congress both will try to please the Muslim mobs...
No tolerance.. How can I as an feel safe living with such violent people..If the cops are not spared I cannot imagine the plight of a common man..Then the community says it is always discriminated against..It's the handiwork of these few people, but they are present in plenty in every state of this country... Why can't they live in peace..Zero tolerance level..Help this country and the world..
RE:Unfortunate..
by Javed on Jul 06, 2006 03:55 PM Permalink
Jitesh,
U r right in criticising such kind of events. But u must not forget that its not (the kind of people who u say claim to be discriminated) always create the havoc.
Why do we forget India\'s worst rioting in Gujrat before putting blame to others. U must choose ur words appopriately and instead of using a community specific term, apply it to all the animals who resort to such kind of violence.
RE:wht a shame
by shane on Jul 06, 2006 07:11 PM Permalink
You are big Idiot Sirajuddin, You makes those terrorist a hero and compare them with Subash Chandra Bose, it shows how pathetic your mentality is. Subash Chandra Bose had never killed the innocent people by putting bomb in the train or shooting people in their homes. You are even bigger terrorist than those actual terrorist, you want to jutify their act of terrorism and compare it with our freedom fighters act, that is poor. Go to pakistan and then you can understand that what our country has give to you and what you people has gave to our country.
RE:wht a shame
by shyam on Jul 07, 2006 12:01 PM Permalink
Dont balm on Subhash Chand Bose as terrorists.
They did not kill innocent people for independence they fought a war against British forces. If anybody fighting for a course it should be open fight not hiding in society and killing innocent people.
RE:wht a shame
by Shyam on Jul 07, 2006 12:19 PM Permalink
Dont balm on Subhash Chand Bose as terrorists.
They did not kill innocent people for independence they fought a war against British forces. If anybody fighting for a course it should be open fight not hiding in society and killing innocent people.
If the plot in question has been in the possession with police since 1920, how come the plot was being used as burila ground and was not objected by police all these years. Even if the plot was belonging to police, since it seems that the people were using it for burial purposes as is being claimed by the locals, the police should have talked it over with the locals regarding the misuse that their property was being subjected to, made them vacate their claim over the property and then gone ahead with the construction. In the manner they have gone ahead, they have surely played into the hands of people who look for such opportunities to create communal riots etc.,
RE:Bhiwandi riots,
by shyam on Jul 07, 2006 11:56 AM Permalink
Dear Ahmed / Kabir
But you have to consider this also that this is not the way of getting justice. You have courts and other peaceful ways also. Why it always started with violence u need to understand first, look around the world, understand it. Look around the world of all controversial places in the world what will be the common factor do u think this is just a co-incident. I know that Allah never in favored of violence. But these people are easily misguided by anti-social elements why that happened. U needs to think that also. All the people of world cannot be wrong.
You are right and I strongly agree to go by the law of the land.
But: What kind of response you expect from the police if they are attacked by a mob well-equiped with Swords, Chains, iron rods and stones from all sides? Do you want them to take the matter at that time to court?
If the place was alloted to Police in way back 1920 (as per the news in Mumbai Mirror, dtd 6th Jul 2006), then why didn't the interested group approached the solution by the law? Instead they took the law in their own hands? What does this reflects? Intolerance or dis-repsect in the law of the land one lives. Violence is generally carried out by a human being as a last resort. When there was the solution available by law, then why it was not tried? what does it reflects?
RE:Bhiwandi riots,
by bhupi on Jul 07, 2006 11:39 AM Permalink
Mr Ahmed, Lets face the facts-Ramjanamboomi,kashi cotroversies etc all are the legacies of the muslim invaders to this country.Their dustruction is an insult to all of us indian irrespective of the religious affiliation.But muslims in general and istigated by their so called leaders are not ready to accept the facts.Ayodhya and kashi belongs to all of us and it is our heritage.So lets all be ready to resolve it .The solutions to these is very easy if we wanted,just accept the facts.Godrastarted with the train burning and rest follows.Image the feeling of gujraties known for the tolerence going berseck.In the present case there can be no justification for murdering the police men on duty.They were doing their legtimate duty.The crime is of henieous nature,cann't go unpunished.All the incidents reflects the non tolerent tendecies on part of the community whatever be the reason.
RE:Bhiwandi riots,
by Sai Kumar on Jul 06, 2006 05:42 PM Permalink
Dear Siraj,
Can understand your pain. But at the same time we need to understand that not every human being is bad. There are fanatics both in your religion and in my religion as well. They play games and create such havoc.
The so called majority are definitely good at heart. One should appreciate that. But there are always exceptions... I/U agree. If the majority ever thinks of completely sidelining or eliminating so called minorities... will that ever make sense? Good's still hanging around. That's the reason both the religions still exist under one roof.
Some clerics in worship places unnessarily provoke young people and make them do the things, which are not acceptable to the mankind.
In the name of Muslim / Christian / Hindu - can kill each other? Rise. Understand. Act.
And now coming to the present scene at Mumbai... No one knows what really happened. Police blame Muslims for getting provoked and creating terror. Muslims say that it is police who's done this. Sound comes only when you clap with both hands. So in this case both Muslims and cops are at fault. Killings should not happen in the name of this man created stupid religions. Believe in brotherhood.
RE:Bhiwandi riots,
by Sirajuddin Ahmed on Jul 06, 2006 06:19 PM Permalink
terrorist BUT ALL TERRORISTS ARE MUSLIMS ONLY yes then i will define a Terrorist for you.
Some one fighting for a cause, Some one who dont fear for death for justice. If this is the definition of TERRORISTS then yes you are right. For Britishers Subhash Chand Bose was a terrorist but for we Indian he was a martyr a patriot.
You you who is TERRORISTS for us he is Hero. Then its just a matter of perspective. What needs to address is the root cause not the definition.
RE:Bhiwandi--Mob Turns Violent
by Sirajuddin Ahmed on Jul 06, 2006 04:55 PM Permalink
People are giving very bias comments. Not always the cops of our country are right. Dont forget the series of rape occurred in last couple of months back. Still the cases are opened and is there in court. Police are not always right. Dont forget the bias action of our police during post Godhra events. How can a police initiate firing on innocent people. Matters should be solved in court of law not by firing. What ever happened was unfortunate and i strongly condemned that but please just dont a community just because you think they are violent.
Muslim never started Ram-JanamBhoomi -Babri Masjid Issue.
Muslim never started Kashi -Mathura Masjid Issue.
Muslim are not responsible for Godhra Issue. Muslims are victim of Hatred which has resulted due to insufficient knowledge of Majority community about this religion and people. Every man with beard is not a terrorists. Please Grow your altitude.
RE:Bhiwandi--Mob Turns Violent
by kabir on Jul 06, 2006 06:45 PM Permalink
Mr.Jitesh, I would like to request you to think from humanity point of view and see the problem from all angle before passing any comments on a particular religion.Have you been a witness at the site of incident?do u know about the land back ground?how it started?Does people in a democratic country doesn't have a right to peacefully protest?Maybe the killing of policemen by some anti social elements to create hatred among the police and the community and put the blame on the particular community.Have you been the witness to the killing?whoever is responsible for the killing should be dealt firmly with the law of the land?I strongly condemns the loss of human-beings
