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One-sided way of looking at it...
by Rajiv on Dec 06, 2006 09:48 AM  Permalink 

Whatever be the case violence is not the solution...burning a few trains and damaging buses will take none anywhere...be it dalits or whoever. Before even the govt gives them reservation its mandatory to give all the needy basic education so they can get "civilized" and not act in this fashion. The author has given a one-sided view of the story portraying a highly oppressed dalit class....however this maybe as far as remote villages are concerned. In a city like mumbai they are given an equal footing in everything... I even suspect that the widespread violence is more of a political game and handiwork of a few anti-social elements giving it a "dalit" colour to safeguard themselves against the law...as the name always attracts sympathy from the political class....the reason being that they need to go begging for votes to the same set of people once elections are in.

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dalit anger
by pabitra on Dec 06, 2006 09:42 AM  Permalink 

i belong to the middle class. and i'm not ashamed to admit that i don't and won't understand why dalits - or anyone else - should destroy trains, buses and other public and private property.

certainly there is no record whatsoever of dr ambedkar advocating anything of this short, leave alone indulging in it.

there is much that the middle class and the so-called intellectuals are angry about. should we pay people to destroy property? seems that's the only acceptable way to make a point.

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fragile india
by jai balaji on Dec 06, 2006 09:42 AM  Permalink 

its again proved with the Kanpur incident and the aftermath in maharshtra, that social disputes can be easily exploited in india. Is india really becoming a so called super-power or developing country, and answer is not AT ALL. And it will never acieve these things. And ofcourse the social disputes, caste influence will never allow india to achieve this, and more and more its becoming fragile. So its not surprising that our so called ENEMIES or Foreign-hands, they wont require any ATOMIC or Hydrogen bombs to destroy india. they can give us a slow death just by creating KANPUR + MAHARASHTRA type situations..or why our ENEMIES, actualy we ourself can create this havoc.
Its just a shame for all of us, and instead of working on solutions for dalit upliftments, some of the intellectuals from upper-casts are working on formation of new religions and all kind of garbage.
what backword classes needed at this moment are their equal shares in all the strata of social sphere..and not a new religion, they allready got satisfied with the new BUDDISM,..and they are really enjoying it. so instead of creating more confusing among them so called intellectuals should work on other things

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dalit are angry
by vidyadhar on Dec 06, 2006 09:35 AM  Permalink 

all political leaders are responsible for this.
political leaders should be tortured to death

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Why is Udit anti-middle-class?
by Rajeev on Dec 06, 2006 09:31 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The article has a pronounced bias against the middle class. The reason is simple. The brahmins are predominantly in the middle class, as a majority of them believe in getting a good education and then doing a job. The author actually wants to target brahmins in the name of the middle class.

Or perhaps he wants 'dalits' to skip middle class and become rich directly somehow. Only he knows the answer.

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RE:Why is Udit anti-middle-class?
by God and religion are distinct. on Mar 10, 2007 10:38 PM  Permalink
Reservations are legislative (not judicial or society) response to historical social evils to certain sections of the society.
Government should scrap reservations when 85% of marriages in India are inter-caste or inter-religious.

maaparty@gmail.com


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Dalit Agitation
by Vineet Saxena on Dec 06, 2006 09:17 AM  Permalink 

What are you justifying Mr Udit Raj? You are trying to justify those people who burnt public property in Maharashtra. What was the fault of Maharashtra Govt. if some Dalit person defaces Dr Ambedkar's statue in UP? You are getting reservation in Govt jobs, Education Institutes and now demanding in Private sector. I am sure if Dr Ambedkar would have alive today, he would not supported people like you.

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Well tried...
by Srinivas on Dec 06, 2006 09:10 AM  Permalink 

I must admit that it was a good attempt at targeting the "so called" intellectuals. GOing by your theme, reservations in the private sector will solve the problem of social discrimination eh? On the contrary, as you rightly said - the emotional sentiment will have a larger role to play and more people will turn against dalits. After all, nobody likes to see someone getting a free ride while several others are denied an opportunity. I dont think reservation is the answer. Your 'great' leader Mr Ambedkar was also not in favour of a permanent reservation. Now, what good has reservation done to the socially backward classes ever since independence./If the answer is no good, then yours is a self-defeatist argument. Lets discuss other measures to eliminate social oppression. And yes, lets not get emotional by claiming that the socially backward are suffering everywhere.... The society is definitely changing for the better, especially in places where your favourite targets 'intellectuals' reside. Also,its nice for a change that you accept that your leaders are often accepted even if they mislead... classic case Ambedkar! Sathya sai baba,Mata amritanandamayi are dalits! hav a balanced view

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Dalits were angry since last 1000 years
by B.Sripad Bhat on Dec 06, 2006 09:04 AM  Permalink 

Dalits were angry and the upper cast,the fuedal gang and urban generation will not digest this.because they decided that the universal belongs to them only.dalits are just unwanted in this universal and they borned by the curse of the almighty.so this gang express thier hostality towards the personalities and the organisations and the intallectuals who fights for the minimum and maximum living requierments for Dalits. Now we have reached to final stage of this struggle which started with BASAVANNA in 12th century and continued by AMBEDKAER
WE have to ask the all upper cast and upper class people to denounce their cast first and convert to the Dalit cast in mass conversion. Let us Start the new Struggle
Bhat

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Dalits
by Rafiuddin on Dec 06, 2006 09:03 AM  Permalink 

Dr. Raj is very right. Social injustice is much worse than economic deprivation. Urban middle class particularly upper caste is self centered and greedy, media people included.

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What about who did it?
by Amit Shesh on Dec 06, 2006 09:02 AM  Permalink 

The author conveniently forgets that the perpetrator in this case was a Dalit. And while the author lambasts unequivocally anybody who is not a Dalit, his rhetoric sounds very similar to VHP (listen to us or we will resort to violence, riots, all in the name of "people's sentiments"). I fully sympathize with the Dalit's issues. Caste system and psuedo-Hindus have oppressed them over the years. But just as calling anybody who is a Dalit a "poor" person or a person unduly taking advantage of reservation, I am offended by the author's generalization of everybody who doesn't agree with him as "middle-class" and "urban". Dalits aren't the only ones whom the govt. has disappointed. Please don't justify the riots and the collateral damage on sentiments. That makes you no better than Shiv Sena or VHP.

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