Generally Indian passengers when they travel in groups, especially small-time businessmen, become unruly and tend to misbehave with the cabin crew, and they are least bothered about the other fellow passengers.They go on as if the whole aircraft belongs to them and do whatever they feel like. Moreover, they mess up the toilets in such a way that other passengers cannot use them. The stewards/stewardesses have a harrowing time trying to control them. I should know, 'cos I've accompanied a number of Indian groups to Europe/USA. One thing for sure, those guys have learnt a lesson, and will be on their best bahaviour when they travel by air next time. My suggestion is that a handout of Dos and Don'ts should be given by the airlines to the Group Leader to brief the maembers at the time of boarding.
I hope we learn the lessons, the instructions on the aircraft is for everyone's safety.
I have seen people walk even before the seat belt signs are off, or switch on their mobiles till the take off and at the touchdown.
These guys not only jeopardise themselves but everyone else in the aircraft.
If they are such biggies that they cannot stop to communicate or the world would come to an end without their communication they must start chartering aircrafts.
Even domestic flights we must be a lot more careful.
RE:They deserve it....
by Syed on Sep 01, 2006 03:42 AM Permalink
Do check your statements before saying anything. This issue is actually about few indian passengers who misbehaved rather than specifying few muslims who disobeyed the flight rules.
Don't forget that president of India is also a muslim. What those 12 of them have done is not right and i'm happy tht Dutch authorities have taken appropriate action against them .
According to ur statement tht they should not be allowed to travel by air is just meaningless.Using words like uncultured is not correct.
For the mistake done by few people of a community ,the whole community should not be blamed. This incident should be taken as a lesson by everyone to see tht this kind of situation does not arise in future.
I being an Indian living in Edinburgh (U.K)from past 2 years and Travelled couple of times felt scared several times while travelling. I was really shocked when i read about this but was sure that all the 12 members who involved in such an act were Muslims. By doing this the whole Muslim communitiy proved themselves what they are.. One thing is for sure ,though they Graduate from Good institutions like Harvard or Cambridge they still will be Uncultured and threat to the entire world . So it is high time they should not be allowed to travel by Air.
RE:Incorrigible Characters
by Syed on Sep 11, 2006 07:33 AM Permalink
I do not agree with Jay.
Do check your statements before saying anything. This issue is actually about few indian passengers who misbehaved rather than specifying few muslims who disobeyed the flight rules.
Don't forget that president of India is also a muslim. What those 12 of them have done is not right and i'm happy tht Dutch authorities have taken appropriate action against them .
According to ur statement tht they should not be allowed to travel by air is just meaningless.Using words like uncultured is not correct.
For the mistake done by few people of a community, whole community should not be blamed. This incident should be taken as a lesson by everyone to see tht this kind of situation does not arise in future.
Whatever had happened that is basically to secure all the passengers travelling in the flight and their country. If somebody cought even if he/she is not a terrorists, we should cooperate with the police. When they have been instructed not use cell phones in flight, why these people did not take that message seriuosly. There is no sense in discussiong this type of issues, its a regular routine job that Dutch police have done.
I have generally noticed that many native Indians of unrefined variety exhibit clumsy mannerism which are not palatable to International Travellers. For example right from getting overhead luggage, seat swapping, loud taking, moving while belt sign is on, picking up quarells with crew, poor toilet habits, food preferences, asking illogical questions to crew, etc etc. It would be high time there is some sort of coaching for these would be travellers, like China has introduced recently for their natives flying overseas. If not these misunderstanding will be there. Of course, when I say this to my fellow Mumbaikaars they get angry with me. But after all Mumbai has also earned the coveted prize of "Most Rudest City". So no wonder about this incident. Good lesson in the long run.
Indian passengers on most international flights do not follow rules. They use cellphones after aircraft door closed. They use toilets during landing/take off. Talk loudly in aircraft disturbing other passengers.
What happened on board of the flight is very bad and damaging for our country. The irresponsible behaviour of these indians shows how pampered are the indian minorities by indian govt.But the staff abroad are not as impotent as our officials.Inspite of the reports by other passengers our govt. is trying for their quick release inspite of the ongoing dutch enquiry. I hope the the indian govt will not arrange a welcome reception with garlands for these heroes. I sicerely hope that they are going to be prosecuted here in our country and fined for damaging the country's pride abnd that their future movements are closely monitored for any suspicious activities.
The dutch authorities acted correctly. Talking on mobiles in the air obstructs the airline communication with the tower. If you dont pay heed to requests for switching it off, you are asking for trouble. The group got what they deserved for their actions. Next time they board a plane they will keep this in mind.
From television information since evening of 24th, repeatedly it was announced that 12 offloaded and under interrogation, happen to hold passport with bombay address. subsequently the names were flashed on the screen and one could notice with feeling of chill that all 12 were belonging to muslim community. they may have bombay address, have indian passport with one or two being genuine business persons providing cover to 10 others. Dutch may have cleared in order not to get into avoidable troubles and informed indian officials to take what ever action they want in indian soil and confirmed they are clean and have no terrorist link.
In order to be absolutely sure, it is essential for the indian government and maharashtra/AP govt to go into the details of the 12 perons, their nature of business over past few years, family background and link, who will vouch for these 12 in Trinidad or West Indies about conduct of regular business, their back ground, phone conversations for past 6 months, bank account details, import-export licence in what name and what turn over they have recorded etc since in past professionals are involved backing terrorists.
