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BRAMAN Advani
by Arjun on Jun 08, 2005 08:40 PM  Permalink 

Mr Raman:

I seems advani had western governments in his mind when he toured Pakistan. He wanted to sell himself as moderate leader who is competent to be next Prime Minister.

Also seems like he was trying to make Indian Muslims happy, who are basically Pakistani Citizens at heart.

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excuse me!!!!!
by Anil Rao on Jun 08, 2005 08:36 PM  Permalink 

even though the historic facts the author mentioned in his article may be true,but the theory that Advani fallen into the trap is nonsense!.

In fact Advani has shown a states man like attitude and reminded pakistanis that they should try to become secular and tolerent....which is also in the interst of India.

I firmly believe that majority of indians don't care for these so called hindu hard line organisations.This article showes how frustrated are some manuvadi people (like murali manohar joshi..etc)with Advani's leadership.

But there is a political space for BJP if it acts sensibly.Its time for BJP to regroup itself and become a moderate center right party with moderate hindu identity and good economic polacies.

Its never too late.

Anil Rao.
Hyderabad




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CRAP
by manoj k on Jun 08, 2005 08:32 PM  Permalink 

One has to move on from what is been there in past you can not continue to hold on to that. I had mentieond in my commnet that INDIA and we INDIAN are used to of going forward by looking back and not front. When we will learn? as for ISI...I do not think ISI can lay a trap for this kind of controversy..it just happens. As for Jinnah...Blam it to Nehru also cause it was not only Jinnah but Nehru and BRITS who were responsible for Partition.

Some time I realy feel that entire media and so called secular are united against Hindus and BJP. If BJP talks about Hindutva..it is communal..but when some one talks about MULSIMS and CRIST..they are secular? on what ground? does being a minority gives them a special right? if that is the case why seperate law and rules for them? which country in the world including Islamic states has HAJ subsidy which India has for Muslims? not even ONE? Can the govt of INdia give facilities for Hindu pilgrimage like MANSARIVER? i belong to a comunity where Shiva is considered to be the originator of our community? I would like to go to Mansarover and can bear my expenses still the govt won't do any thing..right CAN"T people like RAMAN say something on this

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carefull analysis !!!!
by pkram on Jun 08, 2005 08:26 PM  Permalink 

i clearly see truth in your words ,which says that advaniji fell to flattery !!!.
but i 'm of the opinion that all these could be an episode in the part of a drama which is yet to unfold in indian politics (lalluji 's line of thinking)..!
BJP wants itself to be in the limelight when there is absolutely no issue which is favouring them at present in indian politics.

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Did ISI lay a trap for Advani?
by Alok Mishra on Jun 08, 2005 08:25 PM  Permalink 

Excellent writing ..very balanced article indeed....It clearly points out the expectation from MR .Advani... But I have one objection! How can u blame ISI? Mr Advani is not a children who does not understand the situation .He was with his family and could think at home what was he talking in public! It appears to me that he took things grossly granted! He thought ..well ..i am indespensible in BJP !Probably he might be thinking that I am the person who can take the cause of hindutva so I can say few words to become PM in future ..after all Atalji also did the same thing while in power! I am very happy to see the reaction of RSS.....and other Hindutva brands..I am sure that there is a force in India which will take care of Hindu cause .... such forces were there in past also but they were weak ..now every party is afraid of these forces (Congress, Communist or any party..).
In nut shell, AdvanijI did the same thing WHICH Vajpayeeji did while in power! One can understand the situation of Atalji and whatever compromise he did he did for the country!! But Advaniji? It was sheer politics..Well done RSS men...VHP men and others..just do that but keep non-violence...

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Advani in Pakistan
by krishnamurthy on Jun 08, 2005 08:24 PM  Permalink 


Jinnah never held any praying meetings in his public life, while Gandhi always did. Jinnah opposed Caliphate movement while Gandhi supported very actively. Jinnah was secular while Gandhi was not.

In personal life, Jinnah is never known to have rendered namas even once a day (forget 5 times a day)
His wooden floored house in Bombay was more used to the high society laides dancing, than any group of Musalmans offering namas. In fact he never had any trait of a muslim fundamentalist. He was more English than the English Aristocrats.

On the other hand, the topiwala party of Nehru, always played caste politics in the Hindi states.
Nehru's dislike for a 'Madrasis' and 'Bengalsis' is no secret. He could not tolerate edcuated Tamils like Rajaji and and Srinivasa Sastry nor could he get along with Shamaprasad Muikherjee that is why the Jana Singh came into existance.
Jinnah was a pure politician who wanted power. He was perfectly willing to give up his two nation theory if he were made PM of undivided India. He was quite honest about as well.
How my being a Hindu fundametalist is incompatebale with Jinnah being a liberal I fail to understand

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Age Factor
by siddhu on Jun 08, 2005 08:24 PM  Permalink 

There is no doubt that hindutva senior leaders are losing voice as age grows.As they lost the power it seems they are losing everything.They are not proving themselves to be a good opposition but they are collapsing themselves.


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The author is totally wrong
by plsraju on Jun 08, 2005 08:17 PM  Permalink 

The author is totally wrong on this subject. He is having a good litlle for viewers to give it a click, but in it, only last 2 paras talk about the subject.

I think, rediff has better authors.

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This article
by O S Shekhawat on Jun 08, 2005 08:11 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The writer of this article needs to correct his knowledge of history.The hindu-muslim divide was a conspiracy of the British hatched around 1930. Mohammad Ali Zinnah was a great advocate of Hindu-Muslim unity. Advani is a man of learning and he knew what he was saying.One needs to go through the newspapers of thirties and correspondence of Zinnah with contemporary leaders to know how true Advani is ?

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RE:This article
by Sanjay Choudhry on Jun 10, 2005 02:20 AM  Permalink
Then who in the hell demanded Pakistan? What was teh Direct Action day? Was it announced by Jinnah to celebrate communal harmony?

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Did ISI lay a trap for Advani?
by skjadhav on Jun 08, 2005 08:07 PM  Permalink 

What Musharaff could not achieve by shedding red blood of his soldiers in Kargil,he achieved by just spreading red carpet to Advani.And our Paper Tigers fell flat for the flattery forgetting the history of Pakistan and its leaders.
skj

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