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Communal truths
by asif hameed on Jun 03, 2005 01:04 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Kanchan Gupta seems to be too cynical towards Congress and Left.While no one denying the horrendous riots taking place in Congress regimes,the direct involvement of The Central and Sate Goverment in Gujrat Riots were the main focus.In Gujrat after the riots it has been established by the Court,NGO'S,Police officers working in Gujrat during the riots that had Nero-Modi wanted he could have saved thousand of Lives.

In regards to Jama Masjid,as an Muslim i Feel elated that the Masjid Finally is away from Corrupt Bukhari.But just to remind Kanchan Gupta,Bukhari was patronised during Vajpayee regime and he came out supporting Vajpyee Goverment.So before putting such important news item on your site kindly get the facts straight.

An honest,unbaised news item would go a long way indiffusing the hate,terror from the minds of Hindus& Muslim.

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satyamev jayte
by rajnish on Jun 03, 2005 12:59 PM  Permalink 

kodos for showing the true colors of the secularist.the media should play a fair game.they have a responsibility towards the nation.

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Communal communists
by Priyavrat Bhatt on Jun 03, 2005 12:12 PM  Permalink 

If any one is communal in india its the so called secularists of this country.
How can one just ignore the demand of the paswan that a muslim should e a the CM of Bihar, isn't it communal to give a post to someone just because he/she is a muslim?? Why the secular media so quite on these rediculous demands? We have a Muslim president and not just because he is a muslim but because he is a true patriot and intellactual.
Fact is that democratic system of this country has made these people to just look at the votes on commual and caste lines, no one raises issues of elections fought in caste base. Eeverybody fights elections on these lines and at the moment this is bigger threat than the so called communal forces of the secular indians.
Evrybody talks about Post Godhra Riots but no one talks about what happened in Godhra that sparked the whleprocess though post godhra can not be justified based on this fact, what happened in gujrat was very unfortunate and at the same time what happened in sabarmati Express was also equally unfortunate but the secular govt at centre is too busy in painting it as an accident rather than actually telling the truth.
Still have hope on Young turks.

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food for thought
by swati on Jun 03, 2005 11:12 AM  Permalink 

a thought provoking article that leaves me wondering at the level of violence, sadly communal violence in this country. it is sad that this has not shaken the political elite into taking substantial measures to ensure that lives and livelihoods are protected from such incidents

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communal truth and secular lies
by Gopi on Jun 03, 2005 11:10 AM  Permalink 

Kanchan gupta has very well described the double standards for followed by the so called secularists and revealing the trick used by the lerftist/naxal/maoist of "repeating a lie till becomes percieved as a truth and basing this psuedo truth as an point of argument.

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communal truth ,secular lies
by gajendra bahuguna on Jun 03, 2005 10:32 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Ms Kanchan Gupta seems to be a rabid communalist and not a journalist.A journalist is supposed to be unbiased and neutral as far as party position is concerned, which she is not.Instead of analysing events in a blanced manner, she seems to be propandist herself.

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Definition of secularism
by Makarand Deshpande on Jun 03, 2005 10:00 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The real definition of secularism is shown by UPA and all intellectuals supporting UPA



Ram Vilas Paswan has been pledging to fight the anti-secular forces in the Country. His first demand is the Cheif Minister of Bihar has to be from Muslim community only



Nothing more to say

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RE:Definition of secularism
by prakash on Jun 05, 2005 06:02 PM  Permalink
Secularism means "ALL EQUAL" in the eyes of state.But does our political parties try to preach this? One party tries to appease one community and one the other.Can't they say we all are INDIANS. Anyone who dies in riots is an Indian. We lose an Indian. Please do not play the game of votes.

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Communal riots and political football.
by Gauzbig on Jun 03, 2005 09:49 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It is an area of deep concern that brutality of communal riots and the terrror and trauma left behind in their AFTERMATH are measured by the cognoscenti by statistics - number of dead and injured!



All that the stats show conclusively, if ever proof was required, is the sordid side of our republic. Minorities - Sikhs, Muslims, Christians and the disenfranchised - dalits and tribals are at the receiving end of conflagarations. Perpetrators of violence and agent provocateurs, are protected by the establishment and hardly (if ever) brought to book! Some even go on to make it big in politics!



Kanchan Gupta's column is distressing. She is judge and jury on the cause of the Sabarmati express fire. Even as the Godhra enquiry and the Banerjee commission continue investigations! So much for justice and fairness as she accuses all and sundry (other than BJP) of lack of fairplay!



There is no concern that victims of communal violence have not got justice! All that matters to her , it appears, is that victims of communal violence did not get justice with the Congress so why hold the BJP responsible when they fool around with the system of justice? And KG is an honourable journo!

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RE:Communal riots and political football.
by Subhadeep on Jun 05, 2005 11:53 PM  Permalink
Gauzbig,

You seem to be very 'concerned' that the author talks about riots using statistics of dead and injured. But in the very next sentence you fall back upon those very same statistics ("All that the stats show conclusively") to establish how 'minorities' in our country are "at the receiving end of conflagarations".



You say that the author is "judge and jury" on the Sabarmati Express fire, but aren't you the "judge and jury" on the same case, but of course, coming to the opposite conclusion? In your cynical post you have conveniently ignored the relief measures provided by the government to ALL victims of the violence, as also the fact that the extent of violence was grossly exaggerated by those that found it politically convenient to do so.

And please don't fall back upon the joke of a report which says that somehow hundreds of train passengers on a hot summer's day suddenly developed suicidal tendencies and set fire to their own compartment. (contd...)

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RE:Communal riots and political football.
by Subhadeep on Jun 05, 2005 11:54 PM  Permalink
Gauzbig, (contd.)



You say that there is no concern that victims of communal violence have not got justice. I completely agree with you there...the anti-Sikh pogrom, the Godhra carnage, the carnage at Marad in Kerela, all come to mind.



You also seem to express surprise that "KG is an honourable journo". Well certainly there is more honour in lifting the viel of hypocrisy surrounding "secularism" and "minority" issues in India than in selective indignation and pseudo-intellectualism.

I have come across your comments in other articles on Rediff, and my sincere advice to you is to judge a point on its merits. Don't spew venom against an author just because his or her views don't match yours.



Subhadeep

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