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what in the world's name is this?
by Nandita Bhan on Jun 06, 2005 11:16 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Rediff is a portal for news. It is a website where I read the latest news & views on various issues. I however, did not realize until today that it has scope for this kind of rubbish propoganda which should find place only in shiv sena newspapers.

What in the world's name is this? Is this news? Is this a view? This is what afterall?

The writer begins with explanations on gujarat.There can be no explanations on gujarat. But then goes on to bhagalpur, and assam. Yes, these areunfortunate. But does that make the pain of gujarat 21st century any lesser. Thousands are dislocated, aliens in their own country.
What are you trying to say, ms kanchan gupta? Particularly when you say the train was burnt by muslim fanatics. Hasnt it been proved in court that the train couldnt have been burst from outside.

I think you should check your facts before writing such shit. You sound like a mouthpiece of the impotent BJP which cant resolve its own internal issues. Because it has no stand on anything rational.

and rediff.com please think before you give us this kind of nonsense, gibberish to read

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RE:what in the world's name is this?
by Kanchan Gupta on Jun 09, 2005 11:13 PM  Permalink
I will tell you what it is NOT. It is NOT Stalinist propaganda to which you seem to subscribe. You have claimed that it has been proved in a court etc. Which court? What has been proved? Do get your facts right. Incidentally, abuse is the worst defence. So, do mind your language. Lest you have to eat your words. Which in your case, won't be very palatable.

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RE:what in the world's name is this?
by King on Jun 08, 2005 01:31 PM  Permalink
Nandita Bhan,

First of all, it is Mr. Kanchan Gupta, not Ms. Secondly, you say that Bhagalpur etc were unfortunate. But tell me, how much of Bhagalpur do you hear in the media and how much of Gujarat do you keep hearing? Are they being heard equally? If Bhagalpur is unfortunate, WHY THE HELL isnt the Chief Minister of Bihar at that time not being branded as a criminal all over the world, like Narendra Modi is being done today?

Rediff is a site where we get to read all points of view. You want to hear only one point of view.



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BJP apologists need to go back to basics
by Balasubramaniam on Jun 06, 2005 10:47 AM  Permalink 

Kanchan Gupta has the courage of conviction to say the least. But first needs to go back to the mentor, Lal Kishan Advani, to check on what is the meaning of secular. He has been going around Pakistan calling Jinnah 'secular'. No wonder both master and disciple are confused.

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communal truth, secular lies
by avinash on Jun 06, 2005 10:45 AM  Permalink 

as citizens of a greatest democratic union on earth we shd know the values on which this great country's constitution is based on. secularism is 1 of those values. before writing such articles i advice kanchan to clearly understand the meaning of secularism; putting aside your polotical loyalties. that's what makes a jounalist unbiased. secularism has nothing to do with, "if hindus don't... why muslims do?" or vice versa. it's not about even referring to any religion, & it's certainly not about 'sarvadharma samabhava'. it's about keeping all religoins equidistant (in short.. away) from polotical proceedings of the country. so, when congress pampers non hindu vote banks, it's certainly a pseudo secularist but the others definitely are anti secularists & they openly accept to be so. so, everything happening in the politics is a naked communal truth, regardless of the ideology. secularism doesn't exist in politics unfortunately, so everything is a secular lie. secularism only exists in the people of the nation, nowhere else. the damage open anti-secularists have done to the society using the term pseudo secularism as shield is truly most unforgettable in the modern history of india.

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Re:Communal truth, secular lies
by Mahesh on Jun 06, 2005 09:45 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Good article, I would also like to add my own thoughts. Isnt it a communal act when Ram Vilas paswan openly demands that the CM of Bihar should be a Muslim? Isnt it a communal act when reservation in AMU is done on the basis of being a Muslim? Isnt it a communal act when reservation in legislature etc must be on the basis of proportion to religious figures is demanded? Dr. Kalam is a Muslim but he rose to the highest position today on the basis of sheer hard work and complete patriotism. We people in general and Muslims in particular must learn from him. Reservations on the basis of religion will never help any community. Rather it will destroy India's secular outlook.

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RE:Re:Communal truth, secular lies
by Hanif Mohammed on Jun 07, 2005 01:44 PM  Permalink
Good article !!! its blood soaked !!!!

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RE:Re:Communal truth, secular lies
by Srinivas on Jun 11, 2005 04:31 PM  Permalink
Hanif, if you are relaly keen to counter what has been said by the comments of the reader you should do it with facts and not with such statements...

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response
by brendan on Jun 05, 2005 10:05 PM  Permalink 

mam,
in response to your column i would like to invite your attention to the fact that both the bjp and congress are equally to blame for the communal frenzy that happens to grip this country every now and then.
the only difference herein is that while the congres try to hide it desperately under the garb of secularism the bjp and its allies openly boast of it.
and we poor souls are caught between the devil and the deep sea.

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Another set of lies
by Aleem Ahmed on Jun 05, 2005 06:44 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It is the RSS which is famous for repeated half truths. Your article is another set of half truths which will only mislead and create more communal tension. When will u journalists become truely secular.


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RE:Another set of lies
by D.C.Gupta on Jun 06, 2005 02:51 PM  Permalink
Dear brother will you please be kind enough to indicate as what are the wrong data given by Kanchan.Whether Maliana, 1984 riots,Bhagalpur are not he fact. We have to accept the truth. Please visit the remotest possible area of Gujrat both Hidus and Muslims live peacfuly. Please also accept that no political party in India is secular if the appease any one or few sects.Fact is a fact.Let us accept it.

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ETHICS
by Hanif Mohammed on Jun 05, 2005 01:01 PM  Permalink 

Authors like KG are justifying terrorism in civilised world ! and numbers do matter, depending on which side of the wall you are !! People with guns or pen, are no different in their mind-set - they are both like minded terrorist - the difference is practical and theory. Such authors should be taken to task for propogating fanatisim. Be it red, green or safron, playing with innocent human lives, to tickel the passion of masses is a dangerious game - it is played and supported by heartless people without conviction - period.

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CPI-M are the real secularists !!!
by ROHAN on Jun 05, 2005 10:13 AM  Permalink 

This is really pitty article. This is an attempt to white wash the evils of dirty communalists!! Author is clearly biassed for Modi. CPI-M and the leftist parties are the real secular parties. We should support their efforts. Rediff shouldn't give space for these evil minded articles. He is attempting compare a "Bad" with a "Bad". He dont know what is good...

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Reply on Secular truths
by Prabhat Tiwari on Jun 04, 2005 06:46 PM  Permalink 

Dear Kanchan,
The truth has always been there for all those who could read between and beyond the lines. Its not as if I am taking a "right" turn but the facts have always been very apparent which the progressive media always tries to escape.

I have seen in every city I visited that Muslims live peacefully in Hindu Majority area with dignity intact but the vice versa is seldom true, if ever.

Am I further required to elaborate what it implies?


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