I wouldn't be surprised if Gautier starts blaming SOnia Gandhi for the Tsunami or even for the stampede at the temple... But then whom he would for blame the large no. of Tsunami casualties at a famous church near Chennai? o yea, the wrath of the Hindu Gods towards Sonia Gandhi's Christian government.. hahaha!!!!
This is in continuation of my previous message in response to your article "Cry my beloved India" posted in Rediff on 21st Jan '05.
6. "And if India dies spiritually, the world will also die". This was your statement towards the end of the article. I feel pity for you reading this statement. It is time for you to discover what spirituality is?? and if you want to call yourself a Christian next time better start reading the Bible and try to know yourself if what the Christians claim to do in the name of Jesus Christ and spirituality does really make sense.
God bless you and may open the eyes of your heart so that you may be able to see Him and not speak out of your knowledge but from wisdom that comes from above.
RE:''Cry my beloved India'' - part 2
by an Indian on Feb 03, 2005 12:20 AM Permalink
Very well said Jessy! I come from a Hindu background, but I can understand what you mean. This guy - Francois Gautier, doesn't know anything about Spirituality. Like millions of people from my beloved country India, he too thinks that you can get wisdom but doing research and reading holy books alone. No! You might get a lot of knowledge, but Wisdom comes only from God, and you have to ask for it!!! Once again, I appreciate your sensible comments!
I read your article "Cry my beloved India" posted in Rediff on 21st Jan. I appreciate and thank your concern for my nation India. I wish to ask you few questions.
1. What makes you call yourself a Christian, is it because you are born in a so called a Christian family. If your identity of Christianity comes from your birth or place of origin you better stop calling yourself a Christian.
2. I hope you know very well that India is a secular nation with freedom of expression.
3. I think Sonia Gandhi is more an Indian now than an Italian, and she and the family she got married into is no way Christians.
4.What do you think a Christian gets when he converts somebody- a place in the UN, or a legacy to his name?
5. What do think often makes a born again believing Christian (please note I am not talking of Christians who are born with a Christian name, or go to church every Sunday, or say their rosary every day)to leave all his/her comfort and to choose to work among the poor and needy in a country like ours. It is only the love of Jesus that he/she experiences through his/her relationship with Jesus Christ in her everyday life.
I would like to thank Mr Gautier for his very forthright comments on the new thrust to colonise India --- liberalisation plus the systematic severe degradation of and scant respect to our indigenious research and innovation potential over the last few years, coupled of course with an education system bereft of proper inputs of our history, indigineous philosophy, and Sanskrit,practically means a surrender of the Indian state to all kinds of colonising influences that were only dormant but not destroyed since 1947.
If you have nothing else to do, please go to France and help to protect French nationalism, as immigrants are taking over there !! We Indians, will manage ourselves with multi cultural siutation, which we have survived for centuries, and I am sure we will survive for ever. No Gautiers of this world, can change India to suit your personal views. In my opinion, you are writing provocating article, and trying to incite / poison the minds of harmanious people of India. Regardless of your religion, try to feel or live like a human being with dignity ! and not with hatredness and venomonus mind.. Please write for Frenchmen, we will take care of us.
you are very right...and beleive me 90 percentage of hindus will be saying as you have said...but our great leaders wants to get minorities vote..so they talked about everyone except hindus...yestarday 300 people got killed on stampade...so far no so called 'secular leaders' shown any sympathy..had this happen to people from other religion...they could have been busy doing this and that etc..etc..
While we donot have anything against other religion until they do harm to us..I fear that in very soon nothing called Hindu will exists because we have to convert ourself to survive in this world.
I feel we should uproot our leaders if they cannot protect us.
Yes Francois that's what Lord Krishna said. And by the way when the pain in your heart clouds your mind and makes you feel out of control take some comfort from these words.
"Unlike Judaism, which failed to stand up to its seemingly all conquering sister, Christianity and only a handful of Parsees are all that remain of the grand religion of the Zorastrians leaving behind Islam as the dominant power, sect after sect arose in India shaking the very foundations of Hinduism and threatning to bring it down. But as the SEA recedes during a quake so did the religion of the Hindus, only to return in an all consuming flood. And when the tumult of it is all over everyone and anything is assimilated into the immense body of the MOTHER FAITH." -- Swami Vivekananda
The religion of the Vedas has stood guard to time itself and will continue to do so. Religion can buy material bodies and may be even "SOULS". But can it ever buy 'thought'? And yet it's the same challenge that the Vedas throw up, Prove that thought arose out of matter and all religion (GOD included) is dead, that only one correct thought exists and all material (GOD included) is dead.
Could Shri Gautier please define for me as to Who Is a Hindu? An explanation, short or long, but indeed without spiritual verbosity, which I can convincingly present to my Japanese university students. In parenthesis, may I consider myself a Hindu, for my parents and grandparents were Hindus?
While I greatly appreciate your vast knowledge of our land, there are a few things I'm afraid you've missed: 1) The reason we don't elect leaders on the basis of religion is that we recognize the blasphemous way religion can be used when left to be defined by politicians. Besides, there are important things to be done: water, food, education is probably more important than trying to interpret the history of our faith for political gain; wouldn't you say? 2) We do not elect our leaders based on the color of their skin. Electing Sonia Gandhi is not deference to 400 years of Brutal British rule, it is a testament to a recognition of the 'Indian' in her. Having the right to be Indian is not determined by what religion you were born into, who your parents were, or even where you were born (Mr. Advani comes to mind, as do many of my ABCD buddies)--it belongs to whomsoever sees the commonsense in secular unity over religious division. Secular politics and religious faith are not mutually exclusive. I must agree that to some degree, we do care about what foreigners have to say. After all: why would we give such a nonsensical column any attention were it not written by a French madame?
