Oh yeah?..so what will this deal help for the millions suffering from Poverty,floods,inflation.x(to the power of infinity)problems..The deal which will provide less than 20%(eventually, even 20% is too much to say) of our power needs..do we compromise our security for that? Evil people, u can make a fool out of eveyone, use the media for that as much as u like as u r doing now, but the sad part is u can't fool the warriors of God, the independent out of th e box thinkers,whoz logic is several times greater than ur's..and above all they are on the side of God.Nuclear weapons should be destroyed but then it has to be done by all countries.Nothing else is acceptable.
See, I would disagree with the gentleman that a chaukidar is given undue importance. Its like a general feeling of all the lower middle class or poorer sections for the N-deal.
But the important thing he and anyone should understand is N-deal is for power and INdia is developing. More power means more business. IMagine you have big multipleex and ,ultistorey offices without power. NO business No jobs. His CA son would be out of work and so no prosperity. Power would lead us to more business, jobs prosperity and therefore leser poverty as jobs increase in all the sectors.
I don't understand what Archana Masih wants to write. Poverty and self defense are two different things. Once Gandhiji said "If someone slaps you on one side of the face show him the other" but that was in a different context. Here no one is going to slap you but Pakistan and China will cut your throat and you do not have two throats to show. Similarly if you cannot protect yourself after your enemy attacks and you will live no longer what will you do with money or no money
What poor man do with your article? It is simply for your popularity. You should have spent these efforts for poor people upliftment. Think about the things which really benifit country or poor , if you know any option like that. Donate your money to poor and poor Biharies suffering from floods. What is the benifit to poor in converting religion in Orissa and giving AK 47 rifils to poor and killig Laxmananda swamiji? Is there any help to nation? These religious sales men who convert religion from Hinduism , should have spend lakhs of rupees for people instead of spending for Bombs and AK 47. You put this question to them.
Whats the point... Padam singh does not care about industrialization, energy, Globalization as he enjoys his life in the fort... does that mean all should become Padam Singh and give up everything..how many ppl can the Jodhpur fort feed
Re: Whats the point in linking Nuke deal and padam singh or the history...
by Pratham on Sep 05, 2008 02:22 PM Permalink
He did not say that. He meant TAKE CARE of poor, before boasting to be a "NUKE POWER"
Re: Whats the point in linking Nuke deal and padam singh or the history...
by nikhil samant on Sep 05, 2008 02:22 PM Permalink
When India was considered Golden Bird 1500 years ago & every citizen was prosperous then India was attacked by invaders of all over world.Due to unpreparedness & obsolete armaments & techniques India became slave & all the prosperity(wealth,gold gems & precious things) were lotted by those invading armies.Think why china is acquiring newest & deadliest nuclear technology even though half of Chinese populations are hungry.Last year there were 586 food related riots news in Chinese medias even after strict Chinese censorship.Only obtaining prosperity will not serve our citizens ,safeguarding prosperity by impregnable defense & very astute diplomacy is required to obtain permanent peace & prosperity
Poor man's concern is clear - he is not worried about a possible future war. He is worried about his war to survive the reality of TODAY. He needs food, not nuke bombs. Else he will not live to see the light of the day when nuke bombs defend his country.
Re: Porr man's reality
by hiral joshi on Sep 05, 2008 02:38 PM Permalink
Nuke bombs are already defending. Lets shutdown army offices and recall our soldiers and send them to work voluntary for poors and first under attack would Jodhpur from pakistan. Poors of this country needs to be educated about nationalism first and not only how to survive to eat food and reproduce.
What separates jungle raj and civilization is the renunciation of brutal force as means of authority. There have been mightier races that have been eliminated. In fact the first set of humans who used only brute force destroyed themselves by fighting against each other. We belong to the second set of humans who learned the art of living together and gradually replaced force by reason. No doubt we still have people amongst us who think like the extinguished race of humans who destroyed themselves. Wars and arms can lead to only one result, that is ultimate destruction. It is time weed out distrust created by false preachers who are more interested in their own short term gains.
Re: Remember how the first race of humans destroyed themselves
by Jai Max on Sep 05, 2008 02:24 PM Permalink
I agree defense is a necessary evil. But do not glorify it. The real threat to the security of nations is the high levels of poverty and illiteracy. Politicians are able to involve even peace loving people in to wars. Cross your heart and answer this question. Given the choice between a plum MNC job and fighting on the border, which one would you prefer? Why should we send hapless people to war fronts and get them killed? Yes we need defense. But more important is to eliminate poverty and illiteracy not only in our own country but in the world around. No amount of arms can provide security in a world of poverty and illiteracy.
Re: Remember how the first race of humans destroyed themselves
by deep dar on Sep 05, 2008 02:15 PM Permalink
On the contrary, if one nation has arms and the other hasn't, it will lead to the "ultimate destruction" of that country which DOESN'T have arms!
on part of Rediff. Giving prominence to stupid statements from some chaukidar of old fort from Rajasthan who doesn't understand a bit about Geo-Strategy and politics
Re: Sub-standard Journalism
by Pratham on Sep 05, 2008 02:12 PM Permalink
You seem to be "understanding" geo-strategy. Tell me what it is , I have a PhD. I have not "understood" the "geo-strategy" of nuke deal.
Re: Sub-standard Journalism
by Indigo on Sep 05, 2008 02:25 PM Permalink
I will tell you Geo strategy. Geo is not Geo in English but Jiyo (to live) to struggle to live strategy. I have a gun and I want to kill you. You have two options pick up another gun and fight me or pick up a 100 rs note and die. What will you do? This is Jiyo-- to live strategy
Re: Sub-standard Journalism
by Abheek on Sep 05, 2008 02:27 PM Permalink
Ha ha ha ... Good reply Pratham change ur name to "antim" ...thats what will happen if India doesn't posses a N-device deterrent ... and if we don't secure our energy supplies than we will have to depend on our all-weather enemy Papisthan for oil supplies from Iran. Hope this is enough of Geo-Strategy to start with for your pea-sized brain ... Indians like you have never learnt from past mistakes committed by our ancestors ...no wonder we were under foreign rule for so long ...thankfully people are waking up now. Btw ... is your Phd from JNU?
Re: Re: Sub-standard Journalism
by MIke on Sep 05, 2008 02:21 PM Permalink
YOU FORGET MY DEAR FRIEND... Politics is for the People.. Geo-strategy too for that matter if for the betterment of people.. We don't expect the likes of you to understand that do we! AH!!
India with a staggering 53% Poor people below poverty line.............. needs to think about its Food and income problems like china....... other things will come its way on its own........
ask china why it is not interested with any deal with US, isnt it enough for us to start valuating ourselves?
America hasnt done a single good for any country in the world except britain and canada, why would it do so for india?
Re: send this title to MMS
by deep dar on Sep 05, 2008 02:16 PM Permalink
china already has the best deal, it is recognized as a nuclear weapons state, it is india which is begging the US for a sub-standard deal.
Re: send this title to MMS
by Indigo on Sep 05, 2008 02:29 PM Permalink
RK, China is well equipped with nuclear arms and ICBs (intercontinental ballistic missiles)....China did so even before it began its 10% GDP growth cycle because they knew if they were not strong in warfare they would not have been able to protect their enormous wealth. Look at Saudi it is so rich but has to depend on US for its security
Re: send this title to MMS
by Sumit on Sep 05, 2008 02:45 PM Permalink
USA is looking at its interest right!India are looking at interest of only few politicians who are in power currently and not for the country-India.Thats the only difference and thats why India used to be conquered time and again by smaller armies from unknown countries.
