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What stupid people ?
by Annu Malik on Jun 18, 2008 09:12 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

LESS THAN 10% of crimes are actually registered in India

Yes and that too when media makes all the hoopola about it.

Thinsk about nithari Noida murders, police didnt registered report for SIX MONTHS WHEN KIDS WERE DISSPEARING. 36 kids were CUT TO PIECES and police DID NOT REGISTER at all for 6 months just becaus victims were roadside kids. This is REALITY OF INDIA

and this is in the national capital region of India, what about 300,000 small towns police ? Do you think they are professional ?????

80% of India is POOR AND POLICE TREAT THEM LIKE DIRT SO NO CHANCE OF REGISTERING ALL CRIMES BUT ONLY A FRACTION OF IT.

I THOUGHT REDIFF commentators were intellingent, but found they are top rated MORONS


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RE:What stupid people ?
by Annu Malik on Jun 18, 2008 09:15 PM  Permalink
dear 12 siddhu warrier, typical DIMAG KHAALI HOT HEAD surd ??? only 10% of crimes are actually registered in INDIA. and most murders are NOT EVEN REGISTERED. and you are comparing the police of the USA with Indian police - the most corrupt and inefficient and plain stupid in the world ????? (example noida cases like nithari child killer and arushi) and not even a SINGLE terrorist who did BOMB BLASTS have been able to be punished by any court due to shoody investigation of even CBI, supposedly indias top ageny !!! what stupidssss you alll are ?

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Bollywood with its smut & violence
by deepak on Jun 18, 2008 08:55 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Someone must drill into the minds or mindless minds of the purveyors of smut and violence in Bollywood. These guys are worse than any profiteer as they hide behind the cloak of free speech & expression. There must be some public outrage against the kind of values Bollywood uphold.

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misleading statistic
by Pradip Parekh on Jun 18, 2008 08:43 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

these murder number include those killed by islamist terrorists.

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RE:misleading statistic
by karthik on Jun 18, 2008 09:06 PM  Permalink

Very good idea. but the govt should follow this.

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India is the murder capital of the world
by Jai Bharath on Jun 18, 2008 08:35 PM  Permalink 

India is the most peaceful nation in the world. These numbers are made up by the west to bring India down. Remember Mahatma Gandhi is from India...Bollywood is #1, Indian Cricket is #1 and to snub the west this time in the Olympics we will not win any medal. That should teach the world a lesson. That will show we are the best.

Jai Hind

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The fallacy of comparing numbers of murder without taking into account national populations
by Siddhu Warrier on Jun 18, 2008 07:32 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

This report is fallacious simply because it ignores the population of the country. I can't help but wonder if a simple statistics lesson was in order.

A better index of the murder rate would be a per capita murder rate. To illustrate,

India's population in 2006 was 1.2 billion. Only 0.00273% of the population was murdered, or to put it another way, the chance of you being murdered as an Indian citizen is 1 in 36675.

Russia's population was approx 140 million. Here, 0.021% of the population was murdered, which, if you look carefully, is the difference of an ORDER of magnitude!!! i.e. 1 in every 4843 people.

The US, the lowest ranked on this list, has a population of 300 mn.

With this measure, which makes far more sense to me, India is not the murder capital of the world; not by far. Percentage of people murdered: 0.004%. STILL TWICE THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE MURDERED IN INDIA.

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RE:The fallacy of comparing numbers of murder without taking into account national populations
by Siddhu Warrier on Jun 18, 2008 07:39 PM  Permalink
But ah well, it's been a while since I've had the pleasure of encountering a media outlet that did not attempt to sell stories by sensationalising them.

This article's willful omission of the context reminds me of an article in the Daily Mail in the UK which went 'immigrants get first dibs into council housing stakes, says race equality chief' - what the race equality chief said was, 'I don't think so. I shall order an enquiry to looking into WHETHER immigrants get first dibs into council housing stakes, says race equality chief.'

Yellow journalism, or merely a reflection on the shamelessly capitalist society we live in?

But it's heartening to notice that somebody else seems to have pointed the same out.

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RE:The fallacy of comparing numbers of murder without taking into account national populations
by Madan Kumar on Jun 18, 2008 07:33 PM  Permalink
Very well said - inaccurate report.

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RE:The fallacy of comparing numbers of murder without taking into account national populations
by Siddhu Warrier on Jun 18, 2008 07:41 PM  Permalink
Erratum: The percentage of people murdered in the US is closer to 150% of those murdered in India. Given I was harping on accuracy, I might as well set the record straight.

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RE:The fallacy of comparing numbers of murder without taking into account national populations
by Annu Malik on Jun 18, 2008 09:15 PM  Permalink
siddhu warrier, typical DIMAG KHAALI surd ??? only 10% of crimes are actually registered in INDIA. and most murders are NOT EVEN REGISTERED. and you are comparing the police of the USA with Indian police - the most corrupt and inefficient and plain stupid in the world ????? (example noida cases like nithari child killer and arushi) and not even a SINGLE terrorist who did BOMB BLASTS have been able to be punished by any court due to shoody investigation of even CBI, supposedly indias top ageny !!! what stupidssss you alll are ?

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RE:The fallacy of comparing numbers of murder without taking into account national populations
by Piyush Bhatnagar on Jun 18, 2008 08:01 PM  Permalink
It is disheartening to see that we are all arguing about percentages and which metrics is better.

To me even one life lost to such ghastly crimes is more than it needs to. It is sad to see that loss of life is not condoned and is being compared to what happens in other places.


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police reforms a must
by raj on Jun 18, 2008 07:01 PM  Permalink 

we also need stricter implementation of the laws. the laws are fine. its the implementation and corruption. corruption is something no government is ready to take on. well if people like P chidambaram says we cant do anything about corruption, then its doomsday for india. we'll never achieve any meaningful progress.

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What the human rights activist will do now ?
by thp on Jun 18, 2008 06:46 PM  Permalink 

If riots, state bandhs kill ppl human rights ppl shout.. any political party will shout..(what else they know)..

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india is murder capital
by shaunak su bhatt on Jun 18, 2008 06:38 PM  Permalink 

stop giving baseless stories. compare the facts on various parameters.
sb

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Rediff needs sensational news
by jack on Jun 18, 2008 06:29 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Sometimes, online portals have to give sensational news.

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RE:Rediff needs sensational news
by thp on Jun 18, 2008 06:38 PM  Permalink
one sensational news for them
'Ek MLA aaj Sandas nahi gaya aur pure desh ko uska anjaam dekhna/sunana pada'

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RE:Rediff needs sensational news
by thp on Jun 18, 2008 06:44 PM  Permalink
What the human rights activist will do now ?

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