dear friends, i have not been able to understand the projection of 2030 or 2020 because india's energy need is more than 100 times larger than what is being projected through n-deal i.e. 2052 mw. the uranium reserves are limited, we can't expect our needs to be fullfilled through uranium energy plants even 10%. even if the n-deal gets operationalised, the first energy we will get from it not earlier than 2020. than why this is so much hue and cry? moreover indian scientists are working to build reacter to get energy through thorium, and thorium reserves are so ample in india that it is sufficient for world need for more than 1000 years. china recently has developed a small prototype of reacter based on thorium. when our scientists are working on such thorium based reactres why we should not provide them more and more adequate fascilities because through thorium to get energy it will also take as much same time as it is projected through uranim. once thorium based reactres get operationalise fully it will solve the world energy crisis. than why we are running to US for uranium based deal on US terms which is not going to fullfill our 2% energy need by 2030 as being projected?
RE:The Indo-US nuclear deal explained
by ravishankar singh on Jul 12, 2008 03:05 PM Permalink
my friends, it is true that to functionalise thorium based reacters uranium is needed but in very small quantity and that much is avialable in india or india will be able to get it. what i feel that US is eyeing over our vast thorium resevoirs as it has done in Arab over petrolium by providing technical know how US has become masters of the Arabs fuel reservoirs . similarly US is eying over our vast reserves of thorium by traping indian government through its Hyde Act and indian sovereignty is going to hide befor Hyde! why should we not wait for some time and engage our scientists to exclarate thorium based reacters rather falling into trap of US as it has done in Arab countries for fuel?
RE:The Indo-US nuclear deal explained
by Govindan on Jul 13, 2008 02:42 PM Permalink
Kindly read the paper report given below:-
“But the FBTR still needs an initial inventory of plutonium to kick-start the thorium cycle and eventually to generate electricity. A blanket ban on India re-processing imported uranium - a condition for nuclear cooperation with the US - could make India's thorium programme a non-starter.
Iyengar has one suggestion that he says must be acceptable to the US if it is serious about helping India to solve its energy problem.
'The US and Russia have piles of plutonium from dismantled nuclear weapons,' Iyengar told IANS, adding: 'They should allow us to borrow this plutonium needed to start our breeders. We can return the material after we breed enough.'”
In the Hyde Act it is clearly written that US President should ensure that plutonium production in India does not increase the day 123 agreement is signed by both the parties. Indirectly this is a cap on our plutonium production and development of FBTR . Indirectly Americans want to stop our development and research work.
Economic viability of USA reactors.
USA reactors are three times costlier than thermal power stations and about two times costlier than Russian make reactors. So Cost of unit will be three times higher and it will be like Enron project in Dhabol. Just like crude oil we have to depend on foreign countries for the fuel supply and what is the surety that nuclear suppliers group will not charge exorbitant price in future.
RE:The Indo-US nuclear deal explained
by Sanjay on Jul 13, 2008 03:13 PM Permalink
ravishanker,
What india has thorium based reactor since 1996 the only reactor in the world using U-233. We can have a commercial sacle up and running but this govrnment has cut th budget for the thorium plant, heavy water production, and nuclear fuel complex. A scondrel governmnt indeed.
RE:Indo US Deal
by Faceless Indian on Jul 12, 2008 12:58 PM Permalink
Choose between the devil and the deep sea.....
HYDERABAD: Andhra Pradesh residents are warned. From Saturday, you should stop switching on lights and fans, not operate air-conditioners and geysers and live with the help of natural light and air.
Faced with an acute power shortage, this is the across-the-board advisory issued by the authorities on Friday to domestic, commercial and industrial consumers in the state. "The advisory is amazing, as it practically tells people not to use electricity in whatsoever manner. In other words, the state is telling us that the dark ages are here," commented R Nageshwar Rao, a Marredpally resident, who was aghast after being told about the advisory as the area has been witnessing a near daily power-cut for the last few weeks.
The advisory issued by the Central Power Distribution Company of AP Limited on Friday said the state is facing a severe power crisis. This, according to it, is due to inadequate rains leading to no generation from the hydro-electric stations because of dwindling water levels in the main reservoirs, drastic reduction in the share from the central power stations and no source of supply from the other states due to the dry spell across the country.
The current shortfall is 700 MW and is expected to go up to 850 MW by the end of July.
After this agreement, a civil nuclear scientist of India, after acquiring requisite skills will be allowed to work for the N-weapons program of India? Or will he be treated as a commodity under the agreement and will be banned from working with the strategic program perpetually?
RE:Message from Bhagvan
by syed kalim on Jul 12, 2008 12:25 PM Permalink
While writing such messages you should give your actual name. not fake one. Why the hell do u want to call yourself islamkhan?. dont write rubbish on this portal. If what u say is your opinion, then write it in your own name you coward
RE:Message from Bhagvan
by waseem on Jul 12, 2008 12:30 PM Permalink
One day, while all the townspeople o Jerusalem were out, Abraham smashed all the idols with his right hand except for one, which was very large. When the people returned they were furious. They remembered the things Abraham had said about the idols. They had him brought forth before everyone and demanded, ‘Is it you who did this to our gods, O Abraham?' Abraham replied, ‘But this their chief did it. Ask them, if they are able to speak ' The people exclaimed, ‘You know they do not speak.' ‘Do you worship what you yourselves have carved when GOD created you and what you make?' Abraham continued, ‘Do you worship instead of God that which cannot profit you at all, nor harm you?..........................
Dear Chris Kumar rightly expressed ,worship the creator not the creations..
These words were written even in vedas..... In old testament , Quran..
The only thing is to understand and when to understand..
Congress has to collect atleast 500 Mps to get good sleep in coming days. Sonia should understand Left was good ally.
Notorious Karunakaran reached in Delhi to purchase MPs from various parties and sources. K'ran is become notorious with sale and purchase for Narasimha Rao. Power and money hunger individuals are running for it.
RE:Congress has to collect atleast 500 Mps to get good sleep in coming days. Sonia should understand Left was good ally.
by islamkhan on Jul 12, 2008 12:06 PM Permalink
congress-commies-sp-etc all r anti national.dont trust the zionist crusader jihadi lover congress-commie-sp-bsp-bjp etc.
RE:RE:Congress has to collect atleast 500 Mps to get good sleep in coming days. Sonia should understand Left was good ally.
by anoop kumar dixit on Jul 12, 2008 12:09 PM Permalink
Who created the unicellular organism. Don't tell me that it evolved. Why can't we still create any living organism? What happens once you die? Why you die at all?
RE:Congress has to collect atleast 500 Mps to get good sleep in coming days. Sonia should understand Left was good ally.
by cynic on Jul 12, 2008 12:52 PM Permalink
we are close to creating unicellular organism. It is just a matter of decades.
RE:Who is Aditi Phadnis?
by Sudip Bhattacharjee on Jul 12, 2008 09:33 AM Permalink
Why do you want to go into the Hyde Act when you know that it is not application in this context?
RE:For Bharat Ratna, Vajpayee please stand up and be counted
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 11, 2008 11:57 PM Permalink
- God does not give second chance to everybody.
To day India needs progressive people who could take away the country forward. Not the religious fundamentalists nor the hardcore leftists. Please for heaven's sake don't repeat what Pak and Bangladesh are doing and take the country backwards
RE:India needs progressive minds
by fun guy on Jul 12, 2008 01:37 PM Permalink
Do you want to say congress will take the country forward? You should remember one thing that congress is responsible for all these crisis. though we have got lot of intellectuals in world still we are far far backward in technological capability. (refer WIPO world intellectual property organization statistics). these so called Harvard education economist are good at do business. they will sell the India at a great price. they don't have good vision to take India forward. India means not few billionaires but it is majority of poor who is in hunger. government should concentrate on providing affordable quality life to poor at the same time concentrate on building technological capability of India. further it will lead to provide better livelihood for all. technology is the only way to provide good education, health care, safe water, food and everything today. Not just attracting third rated IT jobs/BPO to India and spoiling the powerful youth population.
