Spineless BJP often used to criticize that Manmohan Singh is the weakest PM ever. By going ahead with the nuclear deal in spite of all pressures from all directions (CPI, congress internal etc) proves that he is one of the strongest PM.
RE:Manmohan singh - weakest PM ever?
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 13, 2008 03:48 PM Permalink
- The "weakest" word was Advani's invention.
And this was manifestation of Advani's own fear being labelled as the "weakest Home Minister ever".
We all know what happened during Advani's tenure.
Attack on Akarshdham. Attack on Raghunath Temple. BFR carrying Indian dead soldiers on bamboo pole. Infiltration at Kargil.
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and ofcourse attack on Parliament.
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And hijack to Khandar.
Release of terrorists.
And Advani had no clue.
He was too busy in having 5 shaves a day.
He also did not know his colleague Jaswant was "escorting" terrorists to Kahndar.
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Now after all these, before anybody could put "the weakest Home Minister ever in history", he started putting the weakest label on the Prime Minister Man Mohan Singh.
He thinks by repeating 10 times, he can put slurr on somebody.
Whatelse you expect of street level politician?
Trivialising everything and bring down to filthy street level.
But they say :
"sou sonar ki, ek lohar ki".
Now one hard hit from the gentleman Prime Minister has numbed Advani's senses.
RE:Manmohan singh - weakest PM ever?
by shalendra singh on Jul 13, 2008 11:19 PM Permalink
Adwani was right in whatever he did beacause he is a Pakistani in disguise.
RE:RE:Manmohan singh - weakest PM ever?
by Guest on Jul 13, 2008 04:00 PM Permalink
Ok Can take this deal as shift of focus on other matters except inflation? Its policity of congress and this practices done in the time of PV Narshimha Rao.
RE:N-Deal: In Rabit & Turtle Race in the end Turtle Won.
by Guest on Jul 13, 2008 04:05 PM Permalink
This is not a race, its only aim to break concentration of common men's on INFLATION. Wheather it is BJP, Congress or other parties. This is the common programme of all political parties to save each other.
India would require 500-600 thousand MW of power by 2030 up from 132,110 at present. Thus nuclear power is the only way forward for India. Energy needs of India are increasing exponentially and only nuclear power is the way forward. Increased price of oil and gas internationally, issues of climate change associated with coal as well as the breakdown of consensus on big dams, India needs Nuclear Energy. India generates 132,110 lakh MW of power annually. Of this, 64.7 per cent is generated from thermal power, 26.2 per cent is generated through hydro electric power, 5.9 per cent is from renewable power sources and only 3.1 per cent through nuclear power.Nuclear power would contribute 10 per cent of the country's energy needs by the year 2022 and 26 per cent of the needs by the year 2052. Share of nuclear power in world wide energy production was one per cent in 1960 and between 1960 to 1986, it rose to 16 per cent of world's energy production. The share has remained constant since then.There are 439 nuclear power reactors operating around the world and the US accounts for 104 of these reactors followed by France at 59, Japan at 55, Russian Federation 31 and Republic of Korea 20. Out of the 35 new nuclear power plants under construction in the world, Asia accounts for 24 of these. While China is building six new nuclear power plants to get 5,222 MW power for its grid, India too is building six such plants which would add 2910 MW of to its grid.
RE:India would require 500-600 thousand MW of power by 2030
by Guest on Jul 13, 2008 04:11 PM Permalink
Why we always go to US? Everyone knows the facts that our country has enough resources than any other country, but our political parties motto is sell out our resources and than purchsae at high cost from others. So if our politicians are really think about Indians they should follow our scientist and their valuable views. We had enough amount of sbustitute of URENIUM.
RE:India would require 500-600 thousand MW of power by 2030
by mahesh on Jul 13, 2008 10:14 PM Permalink
technology matters dear india need 50 more years to make current US tech
With all guns trained against the UPA Govt, Left is all set to vote against it. Somanth Chatterjee, Speaker, a member of CPI(M) will resign the post on Monday to take part in the discussion on Trust Vote in Parliament and vote against the Govt, which he cannot do while continuing in office of Speakership. Joining with the Left, would be BJP and allies together with Mayawathi who is not happy with the latest CBI affidavit against her. She has accused the Congress-SP combine of conpiracy against her. Though her comments were a subdued one, yet indications are that she will go against the Govt. The splinter group holds the key to the vote. JD(S), JD(U) and others are yet to decide. Muslim League will vote for the Govt thus putting all rumours to rest about the so called Muslim anger against the US Nuke deal. The Left and others would pay dearly at the next poll, if this Govt falls, as sympathy would certainly go to Manmohan Singh. It has now been made clear to the Govt that there was no hidden agenda behind the rush to sign the deal as Left claimed to be, but for the benefit of the nation. Nuclear energy is needed to meet the growing demand of the country's population is now known to one and all and whoever opposes would get the dribbing at the polls. BJP is clueless and without much issues at hand to fight the UPA on a large scale.This bankrupt BJP and allies would heavily rely upon the infighting in the UPA-Left camp to fish in the toruble waters. But will be disappointed soon
RE:Trust Vote - Somnath Chatterjee to resign
by Guest on Jul 13, 2008 04:23 PM Permalink
Your Views are really disapiontng in regard of country's prospartiy, Every Indian wheather Hindu,Sikh, Muslims or Christians are identity of India and all Political Parties are not ment for Indian they are made for thereself must say selfish. So if congress wings not win of Indians this is for Soniajis Ego wins If BJP wins than its win called "andhe ke haath bater" If Marxist wins that means win of China Think that we are not present in between of all wins.
True, the 123 Agreement nowhere says, as has been pointed out by Mr Pranab Mukherjee, that India cannot explode a nuclear device. But it does say that both the US and India shall implement the Agreement in accordance with its ‘respective applicable’ national laws.
The Hyde Act being a US national law, the US is duty-bound to hold India accountable for adhering to its prescriptions. Which means that India can only explode a nuclear device on pain of being subjected to the sanctions under the Act. Yes, India can explode, but in the process, the US-India relations also will explode!
RE:RE:hyde act is the prob(contd....)
by mahesh on Jul 13, 2008 10:02 PM Permalink
one nuclear bomb is sufficent to explode any country if india use it nothing left than who cares abt india US relation
d) India must make available to the US full and complete information on its nuclear-elated activities, including such nitty-gritty as an estimate of the amount of uranium mined and milled in India during the previous year; the amount of such uranium that has likely been used or allocated for the production of nuclear explosive devices; and the rate of production in India of fissile material for nuclear explosive devices; an estimate of the amount of electricity India’s nuclear reactors produced for civil purposes during the previous year and the proportion of such production that can be attributed to India’s declared civil reactors; and an analysis as to whether imported uranium has affected the rate of production in India of nuclear explosive devices.
If, after signing the deal, India is pressed for these details by the US from time to time, can it refuse saying that the Hyde Act is the domestic legislation of the US?
Section 106 of the Hyde Act is also categorical that all exemptions and waivers granted under the Act shall cease to be effective if India is found to have detonated a nuclear explosive device after the date of the enactment. If the President does not act on this requirement, he will be liable to impeachment for breach of law.
And if all further flow of fuel, technology and equipment ceases and those already supplied are recalled, can India plead that the Hyde Act is a domestic legislation?
RE:hydeact is the prob(contd..)
by varghese on Jul 13, 2008 03:54 PM Permalink
Hmmmmm...
do u know that 6-10 Nuke reactors have been specifically kept for our defence needs..these do not come under any treaties/acts/clauses/sub-clauses...
these include the fast breeder ones...
so what do we have to submit is civilian nuclear power plants..not defence ones...so kindly understand the basis of the talk...our nuclear programme goes on as usual..but we open up only our civilian ones for IAEA inspectors or americans..in civilian reactors there is nothing to hide..all is on paper..black and white...so we have nothing to loose..the treaty is very much beneficial to India as this gives us more than fuel Massive Nuke Tech...which is being denied to us from past 40 yrs...imagine with this tech..how many miracles will be done in our nations surge forwards..India will surely jump into the G8 club...watch out..do not be an irritant to this national growth..do not fall for any crazy leftist and Bjp propagandas..
The Hyde Act is a US domestic legislation no doubt, but it is binding on the organs of the US Government.
It requires the US Administration to enforce, with regular reports from the President to the Congress, the following conditions:
a) Any nuclear power reactor fuel reserve provided to the Government of India for use in safeguarded civilian nuclear facilities should be commensurate with reasonable reactor operating requirements; b) India must fully and actively participate in US’ and international efforts to dissuade, isolate, and, if necessary, sanction and contain Iran for its efforts to acquire weapons of mass destruction, including a nuclear weapons capability and the capability to enrich uranium or reprocess nuclear fuel and the means to deliver weapons of mass destruction;
c) If India is not assessed to be fully and actively participating in such efforts, the President must submit to the Congress a description of:
the measures the US Government has taken to secure India’s full and active participation in such efforts;
the responses of the Government of India to such measures; and
the measures the US Government plans to take in the coming year to secure India’s full and active participation. (Arm twisting is another name for this)
Dear friends, I request all of u to go thr the hyde act' text (Which is available in www.thehindu.com) For instance, it is hard to imagine that two astute and legally savvy persons than Messrs, Kapil Sibal and Abhishek Singhvi, would have allowed themselves, as government and party spokespersons, to assert repeatedly, one can be sure, to their painful discomfort, that the Hyde Act is a domestic legislation of the US with no application to India and that nothing in the 123 Agreement stops India from conducting a nuclear test.
Both statements are only superficially correct. The Hyde Act is a US domestic legislation no doubt, but it is binding on the organs of the US Government.
It requires the US Administration to enforce, with regular reports from the President to the Congress, the following conditions:
a) Any nuclear power reactor fuel reserve provided to the Government of India for use in safeguarded civilian nuclear facilities should be commensurate with reasonable reactor operating requirements;
b) India must fully and actively participate in US’ and international efforts to dissuade, isolate, and, if necessary, sanction and contain Iran for its efforts to acquire weapons of mass destruction, including a nuclear weapons capability and the capability to enrich uranium or reprocess nuclear fuel and the means to deliver weapons of mass destruction;
c) If India is not assessed to be fully and actively participating in such efforts, the President must sub
RE:Nuclear Deal
by mahabodhi on Jul 13, 2008 09:07 PM Permalink
@shekhar since u asked this question none replied !But as u know if u were born before 1971 that can u say that Indo soviet traty had any clause against India ! India made Nuclear exposion in 1974 that is after the treaty ! So as it did not forbid the India from testing its Nuclear arms testing the left which was also supporting the Indiara Gandhi at that time had no objections to the treaty !So now u decide does this NDeal with america allows India to test its Nuclear arms programme !
dear friends, i have not been able to understand the projection of 2030 or 2020 because india's energy need is more than 100 times larger than what is being projected through n-deal i.e. 2052 mw. the uranium reserves are limited, we can't expect our needs to be fullfilled through uranium energy plants even 10%. even if the n-deal gets operationalised, the first energy we will get from it not earlier than 2020. than why this is so much hue and cry? moreover indian scientists are working to build reacter to get energy through thorium, and thorium reserves are so ample in india that it is sufficient for world need for more than 1000 years. china recently has developed a small prototype of reacter based on thorium. when our scientists are working on such thorium based reactres why we should not provide them more and more adequate fascilities because through thorium to get energy it will also take as much same time as it is projected through uranim. once thorium based reactres get operationalise fully it will solve the world energy crisis. than why we are running to US for uranium based deal on US terms which is not going to fullfill our 2% energy need by 2030 as being projected?
RE:The Indo-US nuclear deal explained
by ravishankar singh on Jul 12, 2008 03:05 PM Permalink
my friends, it is true that to functionalise thorium based reacters uranium is needed but in very small quantity and that much is avialable in india or india will be able to get it. what i feel that US is eyeing over our vast thorium resevoirs as it has done in Arab over petrolium by providing technical know how US has become masters of the Arabs fuel reservoirs . similarly US is eying over our vast reserves of thorium by traping indian government through its Hyde Act and indian sovereignty is going to hide befor Hyde! why should we not wait for some time and engage our scientists to exclarate thorium based reacters rather falling into trap of US as it has done in Arab countries for fuel?
RE:The Indo-US nuclear deal explained
by Govindan on Jul 13, 2008 02:42 PM Permalink
Kindly read the paper report given below:-
“But the FBTR still needs an initial inventory of plutonium to kick-start the thorium cycle and eventually to generate electricity. A blanket ban on India re-processing imported uranium - a condition for nuclear cooperation with the US - could make India's thorium programme a non-starter.
Iyengar has one suggestion that he says must be acceptable to the US if it is serious about helping India to solve its energy problem.
'The US and Russia have piles of plutonium from dismantled nuclear weapons,' Iyengar told IANS, adding: 'They should allow us to borrow this plutonium needed to start our breeders. We can return the material after we breed enough.'”
In the Hyde Act it is clearly written that US President should ensure that plutonium production in India does not increase the day 123 agreement is signed by both the parties. Indirectly this is a cap on our plutonium production and development of FBTR . Indirectly Americans want to stop our development and research work.
Economic viability of USA reactors.
USA reactors are three times costlier than thermal power stations and about two times costlier than Russian make reactors. So Cost of unit will be three times higher and it will be like Enron project in Dhabol. Just like crude oil we have to depend on foreign countries for the fuel supply and what is the surety that nuclear suppliers group will not charge exorbitant price in future.
RE:The Indo-US nuclear deal explained
by Sanjay on Jul 13, 2008 03:13 PM Permalink
ravishanker,
What india has thorium based reactor since 1996 the only reactor in the world using U-233. We can have a commercial sacle up and running but this govrnment has cut th budget for the thorium plant, heavy water production, and nuclear fuel complex. A scondrel governmnt indeed.
