you did not give the best oscar to the right person it should have went to will smith because the movie he played was real the one that forest played in was not so you gave it to the wrong one.
Everyone should not forget classic Nayagan movie made in Tamil cinema which is referred as KOLLYWOOD ! Tamil cinema fast evolving to be great cinema in Indian cinema. Im sure Mr.Kamal's DASAVARATHAM will bag OSCAR award !
Im saying this because some members here give credit to Hindi,Bengali films only. Do not try to forget great films made in South India !
Go Go Mr.Kamal Hassan ! The only Universal Hero who can do 10 ROLES in single film ! Dasavaratham will surely sent to Oscar 2008 to represent Indian Cinema !
RE:Mr.Kamal Hassan will win Oscar one day ! Im sure about it !
by neoflys on Feb 26, 2007 10:30 PM Permalink
lots of arrogance my friend.... you don't even know what's dasavaratham is and we are talking about oscars already! Kamal hassan is extremely talented and I believe we are yet to see his best...but don't you think even a comedian can do 10 roles? first see the movie and then judge it. I hope Dasavaratham would be another master piece of kamal
I am glad and releived for an ageing genius, Martin Scorsese. The man deserved an oscar on atleast 4 pervious occassions for The Aviator (2004), Cape Fear (1991),Casino (1995), Raging Bull (1980).
For someone else with any less ability it would have been very difficult to make the kind of movies he made without an Oscar to his credit.
I ahve seen and enjoyed many of his cult classics and am sure there are millions who share my views.
The original Infernal Affairs was so awesome that I haven't and will not watch or even consider the remake(false) english version. They can take that Oscar and shove it up their ***. Death to ripoffs
RE:Talk about copycats
by rajith cherian on Feb 26, 2007 02:13 PM Permalink
So true my friend.. If Internal Affairs didnt win an Oscar and how the hell did Departed won 4??? Our movie industry should consider not to nominate any movies from next year for Oscars...
Dear I think ur knowledge is limited best described as peice of shit.Do u know not long ago Bruce willis told that Mr.Bhachan is a bigger star than most of hollywood actors.Well if Hritik is over rated then I think u haven't seen any of his movies.It's just that the asians haven't been given their due in hollywood.You people only give terrorist roles to asians.Ur own hollywood directors r comming to India & have expressed their desire to work with Shahruk,Amitabh Bhachan.So better get ur knowledge right.
RE::respect better films
by deepak_andrade@hotmail.com on Feb 26, 2007 02:01 PM Permalink
I am not sure who is being addressed here. But I did not know that Bruce Willis represented Hollywood. I am not aware of how many bengali/mal/tamil films Bruce has seen in his career. This is the problem with us. The negative comments that come from the west are condemned in all blogs in the WWW. But when someone says something good, then we consider him/her god(ess), notwithstanding their amount of knowledge (valid or invalid).
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by deepak_andrade@hotmail.com on Feb 26, 2007 02:03 PM Permalink
And regarding asians being given their due in Hollywood. How many chinese/vietnamese movies have we seen or applauded. Same goes with hindi/mal/bengali movies in Hollywood. Why will they give an award to a movie that they cannot make a word out of. Besides, I dont see what due is being discussed here. If we need an oscar, then all that needs to be done is simple. * Make a big hue and cry about racism in hollywood, and the impact (indians not getting oscars in every edition). Shilpa can give us some training on that. Once that is done, see the way oscars rain down on us, just like offers coming in for her.
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by SuperStar on Feb 26, 2007 05:11 PM Permalink
dont forget the classuc Nayagan movie made in Tamil cinema which is referred as KOLLYWOOD ! Tamil cinema fast evolving to be great cinema in Indian cinema. Im sure Mr.Kamal's DASAVARATHAM will bag OSCAR award !
Go Go Mr.Kamal Hassan ! The only Universal Hero who can do 10 ROLES in single film !
RE:RE:RE:RE::respect better films
by SuperStar on Feb 26, 2007 05:15 PM Permalink
Everyone should not forget classic Nayagan movie made in Tamil cinema which is referred as KOLLYWOOD ! Tamil cinema fast evolving to be great cinema in Indian cinema. Im sure Mr.Kamal's DASAVARATHAM will bag OSCAR award !
Im saying this because some members here give credit to Hindi,Bengali films only. Do not try to forget great films made in South India !
Go Go Mr.Kamal Hassan ! The only Universal Hero who can do 10 ROLES in single film ! Dasavaratham will surely sent to Oscar 2008 to represent Indian Cinema !
RE::respect better films
by Ratnakar Sadasyula on Feb 26, 2007 02:05 PM Permalink
Dude if our actors and directors of Bollywood are so good, and we dont need Western whatever, my question is simple, why the heck do we keep on copying Hollywood movies? Why dont we come up with our own scripts? If Mr B feels we dont need the West, why the hell does he act in 3rd rate remakes of Hollywood movies. Why did he act in that shameless rip off of Reservoir Dogs, Kaante? Why do we shoot all our movies in UK, Swiss, NZ and Australia? Why not in India? Come on Bollywood, please stop showing off your fake pseudo culture and pretend ur India's ambassador.
RE::respect better films
by rajith cherian on Feb 26, 2007 02:08 PM Permalink
We Indians dont treat our movie industry equally... Bollywood is over rated expect for few films like Black, RDB etc.. While Malayalam and Bengali film makers make more realistic ones.. SRK, Amitaabh and the rest of the "BOLLYWOOD stars" have more of a glam factor and btw how many National awards have they one btw them.... I think there are other more talented actors... Mamooty, NaseerudhinShah, Nana Patekar, Kamal Hasan, Mohan Lal.... SRK, Amitabh, Abhishek, Salman...are crap barring few movies
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by Jessica Monteiro on Feb 27, 2007 05:59 PM Permalink
Dear friends dont fight.... there is a different class of films that we are talking about! The movies that go to the Oscars and that finally win! Indian moview feature year after year in the Oscars dont even get nominated and if they do they never win! Reason most of the movies which went to the Oscars, be it Lagaan or RDB had Indian bashing the white fellas! You think they would take that???? Anyways purely speaking the level of direction and cinematography of the West is far ahead of ours! You can tell when you watch a print! Of course there are exceptions!
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by deepak_andrade@hotmail.com on Feb 26, 2007 02:12 PM Permalink
With some many revelations (many movies are crap etc ...) how can we expect to win an oscar. It is like a software engineer writing a program to multiply two 15-digit numbers, and expecting that he get a patent for that. Our actors are good, no doubt, but within India. Outside India, their movies appeal only to our patriotic bhai-behen. Just imagine an american family spending a saturday evening watching a hindi movie (in hindi, without subtitles). We need to be real. We want to win oscars, do movies that appeal to Hollywood, and at the same time reflect our culture. Not making a movie with the leading actors dancing in some footpath in switzerland and expecting an oscar for that.
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by pardeep kumar on Feb 26, 2007 02:41 PM Permalink
I think, you know little about Hindi Movies. First of all, brush up ur knowledge and then comment ok.
RE:WATER
by Sheshidhar on Feb 26, 2007 01:08 PM Permalink
IF it comes.....it comes to Indian.......thats the point.......what the hell regionality comes from......
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by kiran on Feb 26, 2007 01:23 PM Permalink
Ok. The Oscar for making all Indians look like destitutes goes to..... gasp ...gasp ... Bengali Filmmakers !!!! clap clap
RE:WATER
by VENKATESH - MALLAN on Feb 26, 2007 01:26 PM Permalink
thats why my freind bengali yu dont know that Bhanu Athaiya the costume designer in movie GANDHI has won and oscar for india.. but alas she was indian perhaps not bengali..
RE:RE:WATER
by Jessica Monteiro on Feb 27, 2007 06:01 PM Permalink
Surprising the other day I saw the movie and realised, the award was lost, because Gandhji didnt have that many clothes on, and what the others wore, well that is what Indians wore then and even do today!
Giving so much importance in india to winning oscars is a shame thing. Simply accepting the superiorty of US culture over us, that is it.If we could encourage our films, those by Ray, Adoor, Benegal...In fact Europeans make better films that americans ..but then they are not lavish and plentiful...sad that rediff can't understand the difference and take a stand.
RE:respect better films
by test on Feb 26, 2007 01:00 PM Permalink
USA HAS GIVEN A LOT TO THE WORLD HOLLYWOOD AVIATION INDUSTRY SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY SPACE ACHEIVEMENTS DEFEATED HITLER ELSE HE WOULD HAVE RUINED THE WORLD MCDONALDS,PEPSI,COKE,KFC,SUPER MAN,DISNEY WORLD,CARTOONS JEANS MODIFIED ENGLISH LANGUAGE
WITHOUTH USA WORLD WOULD HAVE BEEN SO SO BORING LONG LIKE USA
WELL IF U WIN OSCAR U GET INTERNATIONAL RECOGNITION AND WE SHOULD TRY FOR OSCAR BUT I REALLY DOUBT THAT CURRENT INDUSTRY HAS ANY ONE CREATIVE TO WIN AN OSCAR. AB IS A BIG STAR BUT HE HAS DONE NOTHING SPECIAL IN HIS CAREER WHICH CAN GIVE HIM FAME IN USA. HE HAS DONE ALL COMMERCIAL ROLES AND SUCH ROLES R TREATED C GRADE..SRK IS PIECE OF CRAP..HRITIK IS OVER RATED CRAP..ABHISHEK IS GOD KNOWS WHAT... PLS INDIA GET SOME REAL TALENT .. GENIUS LIKE MARTIN SCORCESE TOOK YEARS TO WIN ONE OSCAR ..so INDIA PLEASE LEARN ONE THING MOVIES IS NOT ONLY ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT ,IF UR MOVIE CANNOT EDUCATE JUST THROW IT IN DUST BIN.. AND IF INDIANS DONT NEED OSCAR WHY V IMITATE HOLLYWOOD SO MUCH.. ASK ALL UR GREAT STARTS TO THINK OF CREATE NAME INSTEAD OF KEEPIN ITS NAME AS BOLLYWOOD. SHAME ON U
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by jess on Feb 26, 2007 01:04 PM Permalink
Hello your knowledge of indian actors is limited to the glamm-band in bollywood ..may be the better ones are Naseeruddhin, Om Puri, Mohan Lal,...
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by Neo on Feb 26, 2007 01:23 PM Permalink
r u high on weed ? Only USA has given world useless hollywood ! and if u think ..that aviation industry, software, space tech is given to world only by USA...i think u need to read little more u kid ..go read ! and if u think, USA defeated hitler (russia played bigger role than USA in ww2)...i think ur knowledge about history is limited to janet jackson's super bowl incident .. u really need to go back to school ..kid !
RE:RE:respect better films
by Sheshidhar on Feb 26, 2007 01:05 PM Permalink
Good movies have been made in past and to mention Shantaram's "Do Ankhen Barah Hath", Mehboob's "Mother India" , and many more to mention. These movies made to Oscar's and golden globes. If one can notice these great movies "they are made out of reality and pain". They should have won Oscars but not much hype to Indian movies at that time. One common thing in these movies is "they make people feel the movie and cry" still they used to be good entertainers to people and enjoyed box office success. The present trend in movie making is completely different. People tried to make good movies but never enjoyed box office success. To mention movies like "Sehar", "Dor", "Omkara" and "Corporate" in recent past, which were made out of heart never tasted box office success. The modern day definition for entertainment has completely changed. People don't want to carry some burden from movie, they(we) don't want to think much, every one wants relief. If one has seen the recent flick from one of greatest director India has ever produced "Guru", was made out of heart. But if one notices it more closely, they would say Mani compromised for box-office at end and made protagonist a good human being out of no where, to produce a relief to "modern day viewers". In this era where definition of entertainment completely changed, directors don't come forward to make good films which don't meet box-office criteria, and producers don't backup them. I don't criticize any one. People make movies, the way public demand. Now I don't see an Indian movie winning an oscar in near future. And we are not loosers. Its our way of making movies. Its our way of entertainment. 110 crore people like our movies, and we make movies for these people. "I think if we need an OSCAR we need to make a movie to win OSCAR". But it doesn't make ant sense. I ask every one of you "Do we need an OSCAR to prove ourselves??????" (Our movies already got accepted from at least 150 crore people from India, Middle East, Pakistan Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Singapore, Malaysia, Australia, Europe and Many parts of North and South America)
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by deepak_andrade@hotmail.com on Feb 26, 2007 01:41 PM Permalink
and somalia. There are indians there too. Why discount them.
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by Dheeraj Tewani on Feb 26, 2007 02:09 PM Permalink
although i am not a die hard indian fan and respect US i dont think i wud go on to say so much as u have. abt the bollywood part u're right. but abt others u're quite wrong. science, aviation, english etc etc that u talk abt are not exclusively american.
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by Jessica Monteiro on Feb 27, 2007 06:08 PM Permalink
No what America gave the world was not exclusively American, but the best part about America is that they gave the world what anyone with a dream gave America! They took the labour of the world their people and those who came to the country and made it their own! They never gave up on a dream and eventually you see America has grown richer only because it believed in their people! I think that is the best part of the US! We have talented Indians, but how many get the reckoning? Why are people ready to run to America of all the worlds???? I dont not approve of everything America does especially their views on modernity and family life, but one thing I do agree on is that the country gives you freedom to pursue your dreams!
Since your films have been time to time rejected in India and now on International scale also. Now both you please stop utilizing the outdated ills of this country for your advantage and fame. We all advise you to find the many ills of your residing countries i.e Canada & UK (With a helping hands of your white husbands) and make films expose the problems there.
Take out advise seriously and don't step into this country from now onwards. Things may go dangerous for both of you.
Well the 79th oscars are over and done with and predictable results for the most part..Mr.Raja Sen needs to tone down his "Iam almost on the Kodak theatre Red carpet and iam reporting live from the backstage" act...his reviews and his live reporting are absolutely atrocious.What gives it a spin are his choice of words and ungodly analogies...wonder if rediff editors ever took a look at the number of comments people write to trash his reviews?
RE:Oscar buzz
by Amit Nagpal on Feb 26, 2007 02:07 PM Permalink
so far it looks like you are only one more concerned about trashing Raja Sen's reviews than commenting on the winners! I fail to understand your problem....
Almost 95% of the Oscar winning movies are not anywhere close to our Indian culture... Indian movies are not gonna win an Oscar just because we make movies suiting our culture.. And thats not bad thing.. Winning an Oscar is not everything... Its just a hype...
RE:Whats the big deal with Oscar??
by Suresh Menon on Feb 26, 2007 12:56 PM Permalink
Exactly...Why are we so concerned about the Oscars? They are mostly meant for Hollywood movies.
There are other film festivals that celebrate good movies, Cannes being a prime example. But it doesn't the hype value that the Oscars get.
RE:Whats the big deal with Oscar??
by Dheeraj Tewani on Feb 26, 2007 02:03 PM Permalink
what culture? silly romantic movies with cheesy dialouges and the same old story line are close to our culture????? the real india is wayyyy different from what they show in silly bollywood movies.
RE:RE:Whats the big deal with Oscar??
by yadav on Feb 27, 2007 06:17 AM Permalink
Dear Rajit, Internal affairs is a Japanese film, even it is nominated to oscars, it will not get 4 awards sicne it will be eligible for only one award that is best foreign film, Idont think most of the guys here know that oscars are given for American films andthere is only one category for foreign films i.e best foreign film.
RE:Whats the big deal with Oscar??
by test on Feb 26, 2007 12:49 PM Permalink
You have no clue what oscar is. First of all Oscar has nothing to do with culture. MOvies nominated for this year had nothing obscene Departed Queen Little miss sunshine Letter for iwo jima yOUR MORON DO UR STUDY WELL. first see all oliver stone and martin scorcese movies then know what great movies they have made withouth any cheap c grade dances ,jhatkas and matkas. Indian movies these days show more skin than hollywood movies. Krrish,done,dhoom 2,and ur Goood mooooooooooooorning mumbai(copied from Good morning veitnam) all r ideas taken from hollywood. What ever happening in the West is heppning behind the scenes in our country..and first do u research well and then talk about OSCAR
RE:RE:Whats the big deal with Oscar??
by rajith cherian on Feb 26, 2007 01:57 PM Permalink
Before u call me a "MORON" let me put something into ur head if it has some brain.. First of all im not abt talkin abt skin show and secondly if Indian movies start becoming like more Scorcese like then thats copying my friend.. There is no harm taking an idea from a foreign movie and framing it in a way most Indians would want to watch them... Movies we Indians make has its own identity.. Colorful clothing, songs, Dances and some masala... And thats how movies are made here.. If indian movies lose at the oscar that doesnt make our movies bad... Eg: Lagaan and RDB... And FYI i'm a big fan of Scorcese and i watched all his movies and i think all of them are amazing
RE:RE:Whats the big deal with Oscar??
by rajith cherian on Feb 26, 2007 01:59 PM Permalink
and one more thing... Why do you think that "Internal Affairs (Hong Kong)" didnt win an Oscar will Departed won 4???
RE:RE:RE:Whats the big deal with Oscar??
by sandeep thakur on Feb 26, 2007 02:11 PM Permalink
rajith, U r a daam stupid hindi movie fan, Indian movies are worth in india only they dont have wide apeal as audience movie and the overseas business they do is because of NRI public only, we have largest movie watchin population not the best quality and i think wat a big fool u r singin dancing and masala colorful clothin is dat the indian culture haaa ha in bollywood not in india man, u seems a uterly stupid fellow, we all knw indian culture, and no movie except few stand near to oscars..
RE:RE:RE:RE:Whats the big deal with Oscar??
by Vasant Sivashanmugam on Feb 26, 2007 02:47 PM Permalink
Dude, Song and Dance is not only part of Indian movies. It is there in Hollywood as well. Just that they fall in a different genre (eg. Sound of Music, Moulin Rouge etc.).
In my opinion, Movies are part of a visual media were one uses different means to express themselves. Yeah there are hundreds of movies made in India and more made in Hollywood. Some of them do leave a deep impression. Some of them do get nominated and get the awards. Awards do not matter, what really matters is, if the crew manage to make an everlasting impression on audience.
