Re: SAY NO TO POLLUTING INDUSTRIES
by sumit mukherjee on Sep 04, 2008 11:36 AM Permalink
Please stop using caps lock for writing messages. It's such a sore sight. Btw, Tata's are one of the few companies which do care for the environment. Jamshedpur, with it's huge industrial projects, is one of the least polluted cities of the country. In case you don't know that fact, please use a search engine to find out the statistics.
Re: SAY NO TO POLLUTING INDUSTRIES
by ouch on Sep 04, 2008 09:12 AM Permalink
Batatwada please walk to your office, stop using bus as well, stop using computers, stop using food produced from fertilizers, stop using electricity, stop using bicycles as well(cycle tires are produced from petrochemicals derivative of OIL), start to live by hunting and gathering and do not use any modern weapons. Then you can advice others to stop polluting.
Bongs in general have low IQ and believe that Soviet model of the economy is the best ever model. An example of a moron who believes this is Amartya Sen. Amartya Sen's policies are in place in West Bengal and Bangladesh and they have turned into gutters.
Due to inferior intellect, these people believe that liberalization is bad and if Tatas quit West Bengal they will have a socialist paradise. Strange inferior people are keeping India backward.
Tatas should go to Gujarat or some other state. Bengalis will only indulge in strikes from day one. They always want more money for less work. Due to their inferiority complex they believe that whatever Karl Marx said must be true as he had white skin.
Re: Bongs have low IQ
by sumit mukherjee on Sep 04, 2008 01:26 PM Permalink
And here we have another bright example of racism. Why bad mouth bengalis? Are you not capable of making a point without resorting to bad mouthing?
Why should the Tata company buy land from the government, why cant they pay market price. If the farmers do not want to sell, why do they insist? Why cant they behave like capitalists instead of bribing politicians?
Re: tata tata?
by SAURAV MANDAL on Sep 03, 2008 09:42 PM Permalink
Mr. Ramakant is it possible for the TATA to contact all the persons who are the owner of the land? I am not sure what do you mean by market price. The price has been increased only after the starting of the project.
Re: Re: tata tata?
by batatwawada on Sep 04, 2008 01:15 AM Permalink
Aren't we are complicating very simple things in life ?? tatas want to start a profitable business the primary aim of any business is to make money for the owners/entrepreneurs so the owners need land they should goto people who own the land,explain the plan and ask them if they want to sell the land if they say "yes" give them what they ask for and buy it build the business if they say "no" packup and leave
things are really very simple if we leave greed out of this
Re: tata tata?
by ramakant on Sep 06, 2008 09:01 AM Permalink
hahaha....good one man...so the government will buy me land if I want to start panipuri shop? I guess we all became communist when I was asleep eh?
Re: tata tata?
by sumit mukherjee on Sep 04, 2008 11:38 AM Permalink
Yes i would. In fact, we have given our land to an industrial project about 7 years back.
Re: Re: tata tata?
by batatwawada on Sep 04, 2008 02:15 AM Permalink
If I have to give my land for a railway or a bridge it is a totally different story altogether
Indian is full of politics and indians are our own negative force the recent govt move to buy lands in various countries, to farm etc will open up a flood gate for all those indians who are stuffed with the indian slow grouth, if only we can expand this way govt can help we will not have singrur/land ceiling, and the dirty corrupt schemers as seen in india, let all those who are sincere and hard working go abroad buy lands in various countries and prosper
Re: quit india
by sumit mukherjee on Sep 04, 2008 11:40 AM Permalink
Fertility of a land can be measured by the crop it produces. The produce of singur land was 40% below the national average. If that land is to be treated as very fertile, then entire west bengal should be declared as an agricultural state! Land in Kolkata would also be fertile.
Indian is full of politics and indians are our own negative force the recent govt move to buy lands in various countries, to farm etc will open up a flood gate for all those indians who are stuffed with the indian slow grouth, if only we can expand this way govt can help we will not have singrur/land ceiling, and the dirty corrupt schemers as seen in india, let all those who are sincere and hard working go abroad buy lands in various countries and prosper
Tata made a good decision. The state of Bandh/Hadtaal would have killed his project in future. So he should thank mamata.
and abt bongs. No doubt they are intellectuals but are too short sighted and stub born. They look for short term gain and actually its big loss for future generations. Thats why almost every literate person has flee for sake of career. and what abt farmers? Do they earn more than the farmers of gujrat(so called captalist state)? So from where money will come? When 5th pay commission was implemented kerala & WB became almost bankrupt. This is hard fact.
Can Bengal CM dare to demand economic/taxation freedom (like Narendra modi who said gujraat won't demand a single rupee from state and will utilise taxes generated from the state itself). These bongs will never learn from their mistakes.Anyway bengal's loss will be gain for other state
Re: tata should thank mamata
by Bullish on Sep 03, 2008 08:09 PM Permalink
True; lets tata price the Nano double only in WB. Let alone WB bear the ill affects.
It is really a paradox: #1: the NANO is touted as a 'People's car', which can make a social impact too - bringing the Automobile to the common man. It is a worthy combination of a Capitalistic industry innovating and thereby driving a socialistic cause. It was apt that this should happen in the Socialistic state of WB. Paradox#2: the Socialistic state called for this investment, the Capitalistic industry obliged, the progressive People's political party cpmes to block the deal. Wonder what happens next in this story? Where was this Political party and leader all the time when the deal was being made and the land was being constructed. Why did they chose this last moment to raise the ante? Were their actions scripted by some other powers that saw a threat from this Business?
Re: paradoxical conspiracy
by ramakant on Sep 03, 2008 09:02 PM Permalink
#3 Tata refused to pay prices that the sellers wanted. They bribed politicians instead. People found other politicians to voice their concern. Tata does not believe in free market and does not want to pay correct prices in order to reduce cost. It is the classic indian way of doing business...bad business and penny pinching..
Re: paradoxical conspiracy
by sumit mukherjee on Sep 04, 2008 11:47 AM Permalink
ramakant, tata's are one of the few business groups which are ethical in their business. if you don't know that, visit any tata group company and observe. they did not bribe anyone. the WB govt. in it's enthusiasm to industrialise, bought the land on its own. tata's have always been open to pay a higher compensation. a statement to that effect was made last year in january. we are suffering bcoz of mamata banerjee and her brand of stupidity. the real gainers from this impasse is maruti, hyundai and bajaj motors, who have all lined up a 600 cc car to compete with the nano. think about it. who is bribing whom?
Singur lost its opportunity to become world famous. Just like the world knows Detroit in USA where Henry Ford built it's 1st motor car factory, Singur wud have been known as the place where the world's small car was 1st rolled out. The foolish janta has lost this privilege by dancing to the tunes of corrupt and opportunistic, crafty politicians. Fools all, now sit in a corner and suck your thumb.
Re: Re: singur
by batatwawada on Sep 04, 2008 07:20 PM Permalink
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Commercial, municipal, and residential properties adjacent to the site were contaminated by direct runoff of spilled material; contaminated storm water runoff; wind-blown dust; and tracking of spilled material and contaminated soils by vehicular traffic.
