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I have dumped my degree in the waste basket years ago and jumped onto the BPO as early as I could. Am doing okay but I also have my microenterprise which also helps. My grouse against government is based on these points: 1.Government itself is keeping back entrepreneurship in so many fields because of lack of policies. 2. License raj and Excise raj helps rich become richer and severely affects small entrepreneur. 3. Every Indian by natural instinct is an entrepreneur but government does not encourage. Politicians want people to beg them for jobs, reservations and give bogus employment schemes rozgar yojanas which are insult to Indians. 4. Lastly education has become a joke. People are paying through their noses for some half baked courses the promises of employment is doubtful in todays fast changing world.
To start with, I support Mr Naik's view - IT companies are hijaking B Tec. s for jobs that are fit for a simple graduate of a non professional stream. Mr Naik's own company L&T Infotech is not an exception, though.
The idea is not about a degree it is about a persons IQ (read common sense) and drive. Degrees just allow you an entry into the job sector and after that it is your application and drive that sees you through.
I manage a big team in a top IT company and my experience is - people with simple common sense and drive are the only two qualifications you need in IT sector - but unfortunately we don't have universities in my country that gives you a degree in these two attributes...so we settle for some other ambiguous degrees.
Another aspect of the article is the difficulty that an incumbent faces at workplace...look at the flipside - most of the IT companies tolerate a lot of nonsense from the consultants that are unheard of in core sectors.
First, the consultants, after six months of joining start hankering for an on-site opportunity, after you send him onsite...he will suddenly find urgent emergencies in India every couple of months and will not be ashamed to ask the company to cater to his airway bill....then he will get married and travel abroad and the company has to run around for his wife's visa and passport...after a few days the wife will be in the family way and the company has to deliver, the mother-in-law onsite...and so on...
RE:Survival of the fittest
by Arvind on May 03, 2008 02:10 PM Permalink
Narendra Tade,
When you say that you manage a big team in IT company be very specific and honest with yourself as what you actually do under pretext of "manage big team". Other then maintaing an excel sheet to track schedules or mpp to do the same what is YOUR value addition to the team you manage. Have you ever fixed a problem in your big team which you are managing! I am 100% sure answer is no. You so called managers are nothing but glorified clerks! Its just the age factor which is in your favor. Had it not been the cost factor which is forcing westerners to ship jobs to India and giving you a chance to be managers you guys are nothing. Or you yourself have reduced to be nothing.
And on top of this you blaming the actual person who does the "actual" work for asking for onsite. Shame on you. That poor fello must be making hardly 3LPA and you the shameless guy make easily 15LPA !! And what you do? Do you know the technology where you work. Can you talk confidently to a technical person from client site.And still you make 15LPA. I ask WHY? And you shameless guy then go and booze with top management to get espos, plum posting etc. Now tell me who is shameless??? Shame on you Narendra Tade shame on you
RE:Survival of the fittest
by oldruff on May 03, 2008 08:39 PM Permalink
Hey Arvind.. chill... dont vent your frustration here.. Managers do lot more than that.Am sure of that and top mgt do know who can be a manager.. writing a piece of code is easy.. a 9th std guy can do it at 1/10 cost.. managing the eccentricity that writes the code( read people) is difficult and also scheduling work and taking the heat.. when a project gets botched up , it is the manager who has to take the heat..
RE:Survival of the fittest
by Manoj K on May 03, 2008 08:38 PM Permalink
Most of the indian IT managers are just non-sense and incapable of dealing with any technical issues. On contrary, in developed countries managers know what their team is doing but here first criteria to be a manager is to be a boot-licker. The way in which so called super power indian IT is working is not the right way. Yes they are capable of doing very low end jobs on client instruction. When it comes to any thinking they are brainless.
I am not surprised by the statistics .....considering the amount of stupid reservation in our education system... this is bound to happen. Undeserving people getting admission in college does not mean they will survive. In real time jobs there is no reservation....
The only point i support is the statement raised by Mr Naik but with some changes... why cant a 10th or 12th fail student join IT sector coz even they r eligible for copy paste jobs or our engineers r of low caliber that they join such coolie sectors like IT, private banks,BPO then cry... when are we gonna manufacture ... we always crib about IT but we dont have any product in market... be it SAP,ORACLE,MICROSOFT etc... yes we do have wipro soap.... as most of US top notches r shiftin to china and makin them learn english,how much time india will sustain these IT jobs.... just a matter of time and once everythin will get shifted to china we may see havoc in india... anyways some automobile manufacturers have come to india and many other manufacturing sectors like food pharma FMCG will b soon seen in india...
it is not new. Everybody including me have faced this trauma.
Doing just a MBA is not just everything.
If she has not met the targets it only means she can't sell even a Saving's account, forget big deals. Please undesrtand that job is not bed full of roses. I am in IT sector, and i find none of them are satisfied. It might because of salaray or promotion or ....they have a reason to be uncomfortable with their company.
One in four is employable. That's right even wiht litte bit of taining we can employ another person.
Now every where this reservations. 50% of the seats are reserved for ST,SC and OBC in premier institutions.They will get the admission in premier institutions, Will they able to compete with the unreserved candidates.They will have the degrees wiht a pass out marks but not employable.Politicians will fulfill their dreams by giving reservations.Fittest can survive in daverse conditions.
