For those who are cursing the Farm Loan Waiver, first understand all the rish IT companies are enjoying tax holiday for the past 10 years and are expecting to extend.
respected mr.P.C, Regarding waving of farmers loan ,I thinks its impulsive, nonlogical, and inappropriate decisions by FM. Its incomplete and solution to make farmers rich and well to do in society What farmers are needed is proper encashment to their crops. If govt can provide and make arrangment to encash crops to its proper prize, Farmers donot need mercy of govt and finance mininster, Though we say india is agriculture nation, but most of the govt policies are againest farmers. Farmers donot need free electricity, or waving of loans. THEY NEED PROPER ENCASHMENT TO THEIR CROPS Dr. shrivardhan
RE:Farmers are not beggers
by sanjeeb mohanty on Feb 29, 2008 06:31 PM Permalink
A lot of things are being told since these farmer community are too much innocent.They just know how to watch others glamours life ,others sky touched building,others car. how to bear others hatredness,how to digest offences in public places ,how to bear the scroaching heat of the summer but they r not able to raise their voice in wilder way like doctor's strike ,engineers strike,teachers strike,govt emplyoee strike.they should know how to raise their voice other wise among we like people their voice will be dissolved. they should know if others will be apathetic to their problem for long they can demand their position .Also know how to change government which is apathetic to their problem. otherwise they should not expect anything from others.
RE:Farmers are not beggers
by anuj kumbhat on Feb 29, 2008 05:24 PM Permalink
interesting all these commodities can be imported at much cheaper rate. its important to support farmers. but the whole program should be oriented towards encouraging them to improve productivity and adopting better agriculture pratices. Unfortunately, waiving Loans unconditionally would make the matters worse!
RE:Farmers are not beggers
by Pradeep Sangwan on Feb 29, 2008 05:36 PM Permalink
Good suggestion . Than Manpower also can be imported at a very cheaper rate.MNC can hire people from Bangladesh,China etc in India . Also the subsidy on Petrol and LPG must also go so that people who think that vegetables and milk can be imported at cheaper rates and Agriculture is not important realise what benefit they are getting from subsidised LPG/Petrol. Farmer`s also should resist land aquisition by Govt for Housing and let`s make this country a true Capitalist.
RE:Farmers are not beggers
by don dicosta on Feb 29, 2008 07:29 PM Permalink
IT IS TRUE THAT NEEDED FARMERS WONT GET THE REALL BENEFIT BUT SOMETHING IS BETTER THAN NOTHING.IF U SEE VIDARBHA AND SOME PARTS IN NORTH KARNATAK BJP GOVERNMENT HAS REALLY WAIVED THE INTEREST AND GAVE LOAN AT 4%.PAWAR LIKE MINISTER WHO IS INTO THE CRICKET NOT CARING SHOULD BE REMOVED. by thE WAY smokers are helpin by paying min Rs1per cigarates is it not GREAT THANKS SMOKERS
Congratulations Mr. PC. Atlast a ong waiting act is done!!! Farmers are Happy now. It will definately reduce the Suicides in Maharashtra. Govt now should make sure that Farmers get the relief immediately and have a fast process to waiv the debt. I am sure that "Talathis" at rural Panchayat will start asking money to remove the entry on 7*12. Govt should fix thim if found doing such act and harashing poor farmers.
One Qs. How will Govt manage/waiv this debt of 60000 crs? From where will this money come from? Thanks
RE:Money in right Pocket
by Harish on Feb 29, 2008 04:54 PM Permalink
after all Agriculture is the backbone of our conuntry.One cannot live survive by eating S/W or other stuff.Hats off to PC......
RE:Money in right Pocket
by Pradeep Sangwan on Feb 29, 2008 04:41 PM Permalink
from where the LPG subsidy comes which you common man enjoys?Do you know the cost of subsidy on LPG and Petrol which is consumes by you so called common man?
Advancement of Farm loan at low interest 4% for bringing present land slope from 2.5 - 3 % to .1 - .2 % through the process of land leveling and grading and providing a structure of both impounding and surplussing in black soil of dry land/rainfed lands in deccan plateau is essential to matigate any kind of drought in order to get sustainable higher yield and in preventing migration of small and marginal farmers.
Being a farmer I condemn the decision of waiving of formers loan. This will not encourage agriculture. To encourage the agriculture governament has to create a system which will enable formers to pay their debts and leave proudly.
RE:RE:I condemn
by krishna on Feb 29, 2008 04:02 PM Permalink
Hi Aswath. if u are a real farmer,u will come to know of their plight.. Farmers have no business to come and have discussions like u fake fellows are doing..Just shut ur bleady mouth nd do ur business..
RE:I condemn
by Raj Thareka on Feb 29, 2008 04:39 PM Permalink
Krishna You Are A Great Beggar. You have No right to tell your masters SHUT UP. You enjoy the facilities and be a BEGGAR and do not try to teach others
RE:I condemn
by Pradeep Singh Sangwan on Feb 29, 2008 04:38 PM Permalink
Mr. Kumar Do you know the subsidy we enjoy on Cooking Gas(LPG) whereas the rural folks use cowdung and weeds for their cooking? Why we cry when Farmers get benefit and we never bother on subsidies we enjoy as working class. People like you cannot afford to ride cars if petrol subsidy goes.
RE:I condemn
by Ashok Kumar on Feb 29, 2008 04:19 PM Permalink
If you are paying for this waiver, then who is paying for the Tax Holidays taken by BIG BIG IT Companies.. Are teh IT Company so poor to get TAX exemption in Crores?
RE:I condemn
by Anil Thayil on Feb 29, 2008 04:44 PM Permalink
We must understand that 70% indians depend on agriculture.If the poor farmers gets a waiver then he deserves it. Who has got problem? Don't be a spokesperson for the business class who do not represent even 10% of the population. An industrialist can buy a mercedes benz @6 or 7% interest, whereas a farm loan is @14%. why this disparity? Even a farmer is a taxpayer. Don't think that only salaried class and business class people pay tax ! For everything except oxygen he also has to pay tax.
RE:I condemn
by krishna on Feb 29, 2008 04:30 PM Permalink
U feel bad for giving to poor farmers but good for supporting big IT companies..we too are paying tax but feel happy to be wid farmers..
RE:I condemn
by Ashwath on Feb 29, 2008 04:43 PM Permalink
Hi Krishna, I think you have not understand the moto behind loan waiver. It is to gain the votes of the formers. Do you think loan waiver will sove the problems of formers completely? Never. Agriculture sector has to be given industy status, proper rates for the crops, isnsurance and many more needs to be done. But for this purpose tax payers money should not be used. If you don't understand all this you must shut.
Yes, as a tax payer it might be pinching you that govt. is giving out big money to farmers. but belive me, I have seen a conditions of those people in maharashtra they are in very bad condition. They are struggling for getting a 1 ruppie, I have seen a people of buying a groundnut oil or suger of 2 rupies and 1 rupies more over there is problem with crops.... As far as FM decison is concern I will back him on this issue. He had done fairly good job on this front. What govt need to do now is a ful proof implementation plan, guide lines are laid out there that small and marginal farmers are going to get benifit. will be very much intersing to see how it gets implemented.
friends, devgowda, sharad pawar are not going to gain from this move ( IDEALY) as they owns hundreds of acres of land.
after all if this money is not given to farmers what you think what happen with money ...... it will have been get to some politices by any other way.
RE:Farmers need to have helping hand
by shivkumar bhosale on Feb 29, 2008 03:50 PM Permalink
I fully agree with you. Farmers work under intense sunlight. They have no proper financing scheme.By working over more than 12 hours they only manage to maintain themselves with third grade poorliving standard. Any of his or his family member's ailment or other health problem collapses his financial condition and leads him towards committing suicide. And ironically at the time when rest of India is shining. Its high time now to bring growth rate of agriculture sector to match other sector.
RE:Stupid move
by sachin kirdat on Feb 29, 2008 03:19 PM Permalink
you have a good idea but have some ground level problem. let say one have taken some loan from bank or socity, bank will take over his land if he do not pay back immedly ... my friend what ever you are talking is benifial and required for long term. at the same time we need to have some short term remidy
