Farmers they are the jewels of India. We don't have a food replicator as in StarTrek yet. Farm lands are disappearing so fast and we either need to invent the replicator soon or we should respect our farmers.
RE:Great
by am deep on Feb 29, 2008 01:23 PM Permalink
the way you are reacting seems that you have exploited farmers a lot, just try to produce fist of food then, my dear friend, you will understand what is loan waiving and not the money which your earn fill your belly daily 3 times
The impact of National Rural Employment Guarantee Act in Wayanad District of Kerala State in India.
The district of Wayanad is mainly agriculture oriented. The farmers cultivate Black pepper, Coffee, Areca nut, Rice etc .. all of these are labor intensive cultivations. The number of people indulging in agricultural activities are decreasing in the past years due to bad weather, fall in prices and the risk involved. The implementation of NREGA has opened the flood gates of disaster in agricultural sector.
The implementation of this scheme has resulted in acute shortage of workforce in agricultural related activities. Under this scheme the labor force is being used in non productive fields such as road cleaning, leveling of roads, culvert building etc. Before the implementation of the scheme all these workers were indulged in productive agricultural activities.
Now due to this scheme the agricultural works are in a crippled state. Everybody is going for the %u201CPanchayath Work%u201D . Nobody is available for agricultural works done in the fields of Paddy, Pepper, Coffee, Areca nut etc. As a result the productive agricultural field of Wayanad is dying very fast.
There are a lot of farmers having just two or three acres of land. They are cultivating various crops there by using the local laborers. These farmers are not big landlords or they have no other income source. They depend on the small scale farming activities to earn their livelihood. Now with the impl
RE:HATS -OFF TO DEAR FM.
by Das on Feb 29, 2008 12:34 PM Permalink
Today all the Farmer will enjoy. More masti maal/girls/alchohol/bidi..... Malyyaa will become more rich today :)
So you think you know Indian Economy? Now simply tell me this. How many people would benefit from the loan waiver (25 acres)? Please give me exact number rounded off to the nearest thousand. Also please let me know how much amount (in thousand crores) is needed for this waiver. If not, your leader Sharad Pawar has already shown his quality brain by providing sub-quantity wheat. So just shut up and stay where you belong: in cooperative fraud communities.
RE:Throw Congress.
by Raj on Feb 29, 2008 12:30 PM Permalink
No option .. NDA is fit for nothing... all there ministers from top to bottom are only media savy.... keep on fighting among themselves.... hopeless
Well, if you still are going to get inflation, then i would prefer an NDA inflation over Congress inflation. Atleast they sell high dreams (India shining etc.) :)
To woo to the rural voters, the Fin. Minister has rightly annoubced the farmers loans in a way to ensure that congress gets maximum credit for this.
But the MSEB in Maharashtra is Looting the farmers by BILLING them exorbitantly, without respecting the METER systems. Bills are sent on average basis even though the meter is fixed. There is no water availble in the wells. The watering ( Irrigation) season is hardly for 4-5 months where the water level is limited in t he wells. i.e No other irrigation system exists for the farmer. Even in such a case the billing is done on annual basis , exorbitant bills are sent to farmers.
What to do with such a department ? Who will rescue such the farmers? The corrupt MSEB officials are not willing to pay any heed to the farmers plea !
This has to be corrected else, there may be wild reactions from the farmers.
RE:Farmers Loan waived. What about the EXORBITANT BILLING by Electricity boards ?
by Sahadevan KK on Feb 29, 2008 02:00 PM Permalink
Do not sleep. Put more pressure to implement it as the Left done it continuously. MMS already said to the Left that you can withdraw support very easily. If Left did like that, it was not possible.
RE:Uske Baap ka paisa Indain Bank mai nahi hai
by srikanth hegde on Feb 29, 2008 12:17 PM Permalink
Shut Up!
You are one of those guys who sit in an air conditioned chamber and travel in a posh car, comment on everything in this country, eat the food grown by a poor farmer, and become very insensitive to the problems of impoverished.
RE:Uske Baap ka paisa Indain Bank mai nahi hai
by pacificblue on Feb 29, 2008 12:23 PM Permalink
Hegde, nobody does favour on others. If he travels in posh car and you can not, that is because you are impotent to do so. For 60 years you guys got all the subsidies and did not do anything: This is the effect of that laziness. People who travel in posh car do that because they have either the intelligence or they work hard to earn that posh car. Nobody is saying that farmers should suffer. But farmers also should take into account that if the people are driving in posh cars, it is not inspite of the farmers. Don't mix the issues here or you will be beaten blue-black again.
RE:Uske Baap ka paisa Indain Bank mai nahi hai
by Mahendra Kamble on Feb 29, 2008 12:33 PM Permalink
pacificblue --- Try to understand the issue
Look at the language sharma is using
I am very happy to pay the tax if it is gonna benfit poor farmers and need .... I my self pay 3 lk as my tax ... it might not be big contribution for m my side but happy to contribute ....
One thing --- every one works hard ... but the perks are different for every one ... thats the reason ... kisi ke paas car hee too kisi ke paas bail gadi ...
Not to hurt any sentiments ...
Cheers for farmers .... not for any political party
RE:Uske Baap ka paisa Indain Bank mai nahi hai
by pacificblue on Feb 29, 2008 12:49 PM Permalink
Brother, even I am ready to give my share to farmers. IF IT HELPS. It won't. It won't reach to farmers. Wake up. Did it reach to farmers for 60 odd years? What happens next? Where is infrastructure to elevate farmers? Where is the irrigation infrastructure? Where is electricity? Next time you see, the farmers would be there in the same state and some politicians still doing the same tactics. Distributing money does not solve problems. This government understands that they would have to work hard if they need to upgrade farmers. They don't want to do that. They simply are doing a populist tactic. My protest is not for the money being given to farmers. It is for the money being given without doing anything else for them.
RE:Uske Baap ka paisa Indain Bank mai nahi hai
by Tushar Sharma on Feb 29, 2008 12:26 PM Permalink
Iska paisa kaha se aayega..
Agar vo kisano ke liye kuch kerna chate.. to unke liye Gaoun mai Market kholo jisse vo aapna saman becgh sake.. Nehar banaye.. Jab tak Infrastructure thik nahi hoga Kisan phir loan lege phir nuksan hoga phir marenge phir loan maaf honge aur hamari kamai se diya tax bekar jayega
RE:Uske Baap ka paisa Indain Bank mai nahi hai
by james on Feb 29, 2008 12:25 PM Permalink
i dont travel in a posh car. in fact i have no car. but i know that its my tax money which will fill up the deficiencies. i agree with sharma. waiving loans creates a bad precedent. its the same as giving money to a begger. what he need to do is to get rid of the middlemen and let the farmers sell directly to a body who will give them the correct prices.
RE:Uske Baap ka paisa Indain Bank mai nahi hai
by narasimha Murthy on Feb 29, 2008 12:26 PM Permalink
They are not giving freely. Food prices are highest in India. We are forced to buy food at higher prices and again pay for the farmers loans. What is this.
RE:RE:Uske Baap ka paisa Indain Bank mai nahi hai
by pacificblue on Feb 29, 2008 12:29 PM Permalink
That's not exactly true Mr.Murthy. Food in India is in fact cheapest commodity. In US, you would have paid ten times that amount for the same quantity.
RE:Uske Baap ka paisa Indain Bank mai nahi hai
by am deep on Feb 29, 2008 01:34 PM Permalink
Mr. Narasimha Murty just tell me to whom this money is going -to farmers or traders- just understand our economy main basis is agriculrture and govt gets major taxes from agri related products...
RE:my 30% gone in waste
by Tushar Sharma on Feb 29, 2008 12:15 PM Permalink
30% nahi Bhai.. 50 % bolo.. abhi aur service per serveice tax aane wala hai Ham India mai peda hi Tax dene ke liye hue hai.. Pehele Jazira diya ab PC ko service tax (JAha kabhi service nahi milti)aur Income tax de rahe hai In Mugal aur PC mai kya anter reh gaya..
RE:my 30% gone in waste
by raj singh on Feb 29, 2008 12:18 PM Permalink
i have seen many farmers or better say big land owners gain a kisan credit card get 2 lakh cash then vanish. this is bullshit.
RE:my 30% gone in waste
by raj singh on Feb 29, 2008 12:35 PM Permalink
We pay tax for even a 1 rupee match box (some time back it was 50 paise god knows why cost us 1 rupee now). We dont have good roads, 8 hours power cut, pathetic drainange system, education system full of shit, public service departement like police, medicine(chikitsa), pwd, irrigation aren't worth a penny.
While waiving off the farmers loan is humanity it is important to find out why the farmer is unable to re-pay the loan.
Farmer takes loan to buy fertilisers/seeds/pay labour etc.
The crop fails due to floods/ drought or he is not paid enough for his produce.
Farmer defaults in payments and under pressure commits suicide. It Becomes a political issue and Govt.decides to be kind and waives off the loan. Question is the same farmer will have to again incur loans and the same cycle will happen. Govt. must address the real issue of the farmer who will happy if there is no crop failure,has irrigation,flood control systems,Ensure he gets a reasonable fair return on his produce. Govt.must give him access to markets and take him out of the money lenders clutches.Farmer will repay his loans and still make money and everybody is happy.
RE:Find out the why ?
by sandugi srinivas on Feb 29, 2008 12:16 PM Permalink
I appreciate the idea and it is real to look into their problems for not paying back the loans. As you paid they are misguided by money lenders & small time politicians and they are succumbed to it due to lack of knowledge and illiteracy problems. Govt must address these issues.
