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Citi ko kuch nahi hoga
by rexberry on Feb 06, 2008 03:38 PM  Permalink 

All the petrodollars are again invested back in citibank....

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Remind Money lending in India...
by vinay on Feb 06, 2008 03:28 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

This is remind me of money lending done in Indian Villages...

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RE:Remind Money lending in India...
by rexberry on Feb 06, 2008 03:39 PM  Permalink
@vinay
lending to poor villagers is a different thing... i bet u those people will pay in installments inpite of keepin themselves hungry... or they will suicide.. poor farmers have more self esteem than these so called rich US ppl

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RE:Remind Money lending in India...
by TheOneAndOnly on Feb 06, 2008 06:51 PM  Permalink

Not Really. Several National & State Govt had done Loan Waivers and Interest Waivers Leading to Bankruptcy of PSU Banks and Coop Banks.

It is the Private Lenders who naturally Squeeze the borrowers and take back their money.


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Citigroup is Fraud.
by mahesh lakshminarayan on Feb 06, 2008 03:26 PM  Permalink 

Banks hiding the money in the name of Sub Prime Crisis.

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The institutes call this monkey play as financial engineering
by Venkatesh Babu on Feb 06, 2008 03:18 PM  Permalink 

I think there is a big subject of study called "Financial Engineering", offered in some US universities, where people have to come up with all such monkey tricks, to eat as much money as possible.

Heights of extortion. Wonder what is the difference between terrorists and these masked investors.

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Poor retail Investor
by Krishnan Bhaskaran on Feb 06, 2008 03:15 PM  Permalink 

From my humble understanding all this means that the poor retail investor has incurred losses in the stock market so that these big FIs can subsidise (read writeoff) home loans of Americans. Here Indians live on the fottpaths and platforms and we are helping Americans get free homes. Nice charity work!

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Another round of stock market crash
by Ramesh M on Feb 06, 2008 03:15 PM  Permalink 

So we can expect another round of sensex crash when these institutional investors make up for their additional losses as they keep uncovering.

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SUB PRIME LOSS-NOT BILLIONS ITS GOING TO BE TRILLIONS
by SUNIL KHANDELWAL on Feb 06, 2008 03:08 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Any body who thought that the subprime pain is going to diminiish quick is surely living in a fairy land.
The total of all US$-based mortgage bonds is $10.4 trillion.A conservative estimate of the prime mortgages within this giant mass is $7 trillion. We all know it is more, so bear with my lowball for argument's sake."The prime mortgage bond index measures an aggregate of prime-rated bonds scattered across the beleaguered 50 states, varying over loan size from large to medium to small. The 'AAA' mortgage bond index has lost a whopping 30%, a fact that continuously eludes the big bankers and their legion of obsequious monitoring mavens", and the estimated $1.4 trillion in subprime mortgages, as representative of the "BBB" mortgage bond index, "has lost 80% of its value".
Hence saying that Indian Banks are going to loose 5 tp 10% of their investment is like living in a fools paradise. The sub prime bonds have lost 80% of their value, hence he same goes for valuation for these bonds held by Indian Banks. And no one knows what would be the loss of Reserve Bank of India incase if they have also invested in these subprime bonds with their huge dollar reserves. Only thing the Reserve Bank of India does not let this most crucial data available to the markets about its investment portfolio.
Coming back to the overall losses a 30% loss in prime related mortgages maths out to 2.1 trillion dollars & 80% loss in the 1.2trillion dollar sub prime mortgages. Well i leave the simple calcula

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RE:SUB PRIME LOSS-NOT BILLIONS ITS GOING TO BE TRILLIONS
by Ramesh M on Feb 06, 2008 03:22 PM  Permalink
Can't they revert the subprime loan rate to a fixed rate so the people with not-so-good-credit-rating can repay the loan as they were doing before? This way the problem can be solved...atleast the principal can be recovered if not the interest on it.

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RE:SUB PRIME LOSS-NOT BILLIONS ITS GOING TO BE TRILLIONS
by Kishore Bondada on Feb 06, 2008 03:40 PM  Permalink
exactly.....tht's why US Federal Bank has been cutting the interest rates off late, so that their EMI amounts come down and would be affordable for them to pay

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RE:SUB PRIME LOSS-NOT BILLIONS ITS GOING TO BE TRILLIONS
by netinetineti on Feb 06, 2008 03:44 PM  Permalink
why is it then, inspite of such huge interest rate cuts, experts still say that the chances of recession are very high?


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RE:SUB PRIME LOSS-NOT BILLIONS ITS GOING TO BE TRILLIONS
by Fab Reens on Feb 06, 2008 03:40 PM  Permalink
Thanks for the eye-opening. I knew there is more pain than they foretell but didn't know the numbers. And "legion of obsequious monitoring mavens" is a nice esoteric touch for the credit-rating agencies. Nice post.

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Good Explanation
by Harinder Chhabra on Feb 06, 2008 03:00 PM  Permalink 

Really helpful in understanding the issue which has been looming large over all financial markets in the world.

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Good Article
by Subbu on Feb 06, 2008 02:54 PM  Permalink 

Good article. But I wonder why the heck these banks entertain the subprime market? Is not something like Harshad Mehta case in Stock market?

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Figures are outdated
by Jinnah Advani on Feb 06, 2008 02:38 PM  Permalink 

these are the figures from the last quarter, Merill had posted another $10 billion and Citi even more.


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