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BRAIN DRAIN
by JAGDISH on Apr 07, 2008 08:31 AM  Permalink 

DEAR FRIEND
UNLESS POLITICIAN SHUN AWAY DISCRIMINATORY POLICIES AND TREAT ALL EQUAL AS PROVIDED AND TAKEN OUTH BY CONSTITIENT ASSEMBLY, THESE NAKED POLITICAL ,CRIMINAL WILL DRAG THE NATION. BE TRUE INDIAN

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Whats wrong with brain drain?
by sajansajan on Apr 06, 2008 11:13 PM  Permalink 

Whats wrong with brain drain? India as a society is more interested in "protecting" its religion, culture, language etc that taking the progressive path. Not a month goes by when some parties "hurt" by a painting, a book, a course launches violent attacks, college proffessors are murdered by one political party while other has little respect for autonomy. There is curroption, red tape, nepotism in the best Indian companies.
We all have but one life. Those who are willing and able to give up on India deserve to be treated to meritocracy, freedom and all that a developed country has to offer.
You cannot deprive people the chance to live life to the fullest just because a country does not offer the best

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Whats the problem with scholarships?
by sam on Apr 06, 2008 10:22 PM  Permalink 

Scholarships are a norm for most advanced countries. And in Germany higher education is free!

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Brain drain (B.D)from India continues unabated
by mallaiah anchoori on Apr 06, 2008 11:56 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Except for the few Govt run institutions like IITS and IIMs and a handful universities which filter and make admissions,most of the educational institutions do not have adequate infrastructure and competent teaching faculty for the courses they offer.Education,supposedly a noble profession,has been,of late reduced to business with grant of admissions by collecting exorbitant capitation and tution fees by the unscrupulous private managements who awfully fail to provide even basic facilities needed for teacher or taught.Instances like that of a private medical management which tried to hoodwink the approving authorities by producing fake paramedical staff ,fake doctors as also fake patients to get their "venture "okayed"are still in people's green memory.The mushroom growth of private colleges indiscriminately permitted by the corrupt govt/s has rendered the degrees obtained from them virtually worthless and precisely for this reason some of them have no takers;seats remain vacant throughout the academic year.The increasing neo-rich and the upcoming affluent upper middle class, with their affordability, naturally crave for quality education out side the country & prefer to send their children for abroad studies which have good demand in employment market too.It is not that education standards are high abroad;they are,unlike Russian medical degrees are not recognised even by India,are certainly better with positive prospects of jobs also as in USA.Hence B.D.

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RE:Brain drain (B.D)from India continues unabated
by Prem Kumar on Apr 06, 2008 12:46 PM  Permalink

USA not recognizing Indian medical degrees is nothing to do with quality of Indian medical institution but due to due to US doctor association's move to discourage Indian Immigration.



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RE:RE:Brain drain (B.D)from India continues unabated
by mallaiah anchoori on Apr 06, 2008 06:57 PM  Permalink
I was telling that all foreign education is not qualitative as it happens with Russian medical degrees which are not recognised even by INDIA.I did not say that USA does not recognise Indian medical degrees.USA does recognise the medical degrees of India to some extent,but imposes doing additional courses/additional study to get a fullfledged degree and recognition owing to their adoption of an all together different standards which are relatively higher than ours-say eg their internship is more rigorous with longer duration.

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RE:Brain drain (B.D)from India continues unabated
by RajneeshChandraMohan Jain on Apr 06, 2008 12:44 PM  Permalink

If those incompetent indian universities are not there you would have more uneducated people.

would rather have the uneducated or half educated?

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RE:Brain drain (B.D)from India continues unabated
by mallaiah anchoori on Apr 06, 2008 06:44 PM  Permalink
My point was that some of the institutions- especially privately run, lack competent teaching staff which affects the quality of education.When we learn things,we should learn correctly and perfectly.Any thing half done or half learnt is hardly done or hardly learnt.As you know, half knowledge is always dangerous.It is against this back ground, those who could afford are tending to have their children educated abroad-especially in engineering medical and of late also management fields.

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Blighted state of eduaction
by Bodh Ramdeo on Apr 05, 2008 11:24 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

That 'darkest spot' regarding India's blighted state of primary-secondary education is directly Nehru's fault. In late '40s, India's first Fin-Min Mr S Chetty had proposed to increase literacy from 10% to 90% within ten years, and budgeted the the funds for same.
That arrogant, elitist prig, the Idiot Nehru, nixxed the idea, saying India couldn't afford all those 'literates', preferring instead to create a couple of IITs to churn out the few highly educated technocrats who will overseer Congress govt's control over the 'commanding heights of the economy'. Everyone knows the results of his destructive Socialist policies - institutionalized corruption, red-tapism, rank poverty and eventual utterbankruptcy forcing the govt to go abegging to the IMF for a bailout loan in the early 90s - which demanded economic reforms as a condition for providing the meagre loan, on top of which, humiliated India by also demanding she deposit her gold reserves as collateral. Blight, Dark Spots.. thank Congress!

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RE:Blighted state of eduaction
by Nirpinder Singh on Apr 06, 2008 05:04 PM  Permalink
Wow! First time I have heard of this version of India's History.

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Brain Drain
by Bodh Ramdeo on Apr 05, 2008 10:02 PM  Permalink 

What brain-drain? If anything, there's a reverse brain-drain of sorts -with the changed business environment, many who went abroad, gained superior skills and knowledge that they are bringing back home to works in Phoren and Indians MNCs, or starting their own businesses. In fact, a cursory glance at the number of priviliged IIT grads, will show that over 80% of them are into the 'bizness' or management field, never even utilizing an iota of all that 'superior' technical education they received, all subsidized by the taxpayers
Besides, can anyone name a single invention, process or patent of any significance that any of these pampered, highly-educated IITians have created that has benefited the nation, other than their forex deposited in NRI accounts?

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Brain Drain vs Drained Brains
by Dhanamjaya S on Apr 05, 2008 09:59 PM  Permalink 

All the brain drain is hog-wash. If the situation is really so, the rest are drained brains!!!!!!!

Let me tell my experience as a student in an engineering college. The students who are failing in 5 to 10 subjects got selected in US univerisities!!

So, drained brains are contributing to brain drain!!

Well, to be fair to my fellow students, bottom line matters in a wise career move(asset building) with available resources(affordable money available for US fees, etc.,).

Everyone has a right to make an honest living.

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Brain drain is a Myth , the real problem was enough educational facitlities
by Praveen George on Apr 05, 2008 09:26 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The term Brain Drain is a misnomer, it came from the fact that there were very few technical schools,(other than IITs and RECs) between 1970 to 1995.The education sector started seeing a tremendous public/private funded growth since 1995. Before this the graduates from the few institutes preferred to be employed outside India and since the qualified people were few in number they got really good jobs and the technology sector in India wasn't mature to absorb them.So the brains drained away from India, but since now we are following the "leaky bucket filling process " efficiently - inflow is greater than outflow which means the bucket is always full,we have enough brains in the bucket. IITs grads having superior brains and better technial abilities is pure Urban Legend and nothing else. I have had opportunity to work with a few, many of them were good fellows, but i haven't seen any measurable "braniacal" effects around the head, nor a slightly faded halo-(which many have reported seeing), so i suspect their brains have the same composition as the rest of the brains in India

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RE:Brain drain is a Myth , the real problem was enough educational facitlities
by Milo sevic on Apr 05, 2008 09:46 PM  Permalink
Very much agree with you. I want to stretch this a bit more forward. How many of IIT'ians these days really go for research. I have seen a hundreds of them doing some dumb coding and working on CAD designing etc., where you dont really need a superficial brain to solve the problems. But the same very IIT'ians feel as if they were produced by heaven and when it comes to introducing themselves to others they proudly diplay the tag of IIT. Who cares? to be honest there are no discoveries or breakthroughs in the field of physics by IITians.

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RE:RE:Brain drain is a Myth , the real problem was enough educational facitlities
by N on Apr 05, 2008 10:05 PM  Permalink
I have friends who did MTech from IIT Bomaby in Mechanical Design and then joined Infy and Gemoetric Software just for money. BEcause the core mechanical design industry doesn't pay as much what a waste. I am not IITian but they are doing the same work as what I do and paid as much if not less. What a waste of doing MTech from IIT. THere are several such cases. Joining an IT services company and doing mazdoori is the last thing that an IITian shud do.
People come to US for higher education and then they want to stay back and US and try getting H1 B and again work for body shoppers and do consutlting. Almost 75% do that and only few really use their degrees and education to do some real technical work.

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Brain Drain from IIT & IIM?
by Uday on Apr 05, 2008 07:38 PM  Permalink 

Why people give importance to grads from IIT & IIM when the professors & teachers who train these IITans themselves are not from IIT but from odd village & universities not well known even in India. IIT Or IIM is just a hype. Why IITans do not take up Job in IIT after graduation instead of going to USA to teach other students not to just keep the name & fame of IIT but the quality?...This will not happen ever.

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Human GREED is a never ending process
by red chillies on Apr 05, 2008 07:04 PM  Permalink 

Human GREED is a never ending process...it will always remain there only the slope tilts.

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