It is possible for the billionaire Jawad karim (co-founder of Youtube) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jawed_Karim) or take the example of Jawad Khahai who is the Vice president of Micrososft (http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/jawadk/default.mspx) to be a devout Muslim, but that is US, but here in India one cannot be a devout Muslim and can grow in corporate ladder. Premji's reluctance to show his Muslim identity is a shame to India's secular image. He is simply scared!!!. In this regard it is pertinent to know how EX ceo of HP clarly fiorian (she is not a Muslim) who managed to talk about the greatness of Islamic civilization to Business leaders http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/speeches/fiorina/minnesota01.html
(see the last two paragrahs and reader get educate yourslef about Muslims and Islam
Leaders need courage to speak truth even in the face of stiff opposition, but Azim premji doesnt know his own roots and he is a Business man. I dont blame him , he is right in his own way
RE:Premji's reluctance is India's Shame
by anu on Sep 12, 2007 09:53 AM Permalink
But i am sure you still hate the US. and would still immigrate if given a chance. what do you want premji to do? start flaunting his religion?you think he is scared? then you don't a damn about business. nobody cares he is a muslim.people run a business for profit not for religious purposes. if that is the case then so many people of other faiths would not be working for wipro.they need a job he is providing thats all.no body is worried about his religion. i was the biggest fan of Azhar, i didn't care about his religion , he played good thats all i cared.neither do i care about the religion of the khans, they entertain me and i am happy with that. don't see religion in everything please. prosperity and rigid religious rules don't go together.
RE:Premji's reluctance is India's Shame
by shyam vallabh on Sep 12, 2007 11:14 AM Permalink
I disagree, Premji's "reluctance" to wear his religion on his sleeve is more to do with his ability to keep religion where it belongs, in private.
One need not flaunt religion, religion is a very personal choice. Forcing other people to behave the way one thinks is right is against humanity. As somebody here mentioned, Mr. Kalam doesnt remind Indians that first he is a Muslim, he is looked upon as a role model, but it does not make him any less a Muslim. Like wise, people with celebrity status in India dont flaunt their religions, be it Viswanathan Anand, Sachin Tendulkar, Bishen Singh Bedi, Ratan Tata, Mohammed Azharudding, Kaif, AR Rahman, Remo Fernandez, John Abraham, the list can go on. Its all about understanding to keep personal things personal.
RE:Premji's reluctance is India's Shame
by Vijay Anand on Sep 12, 2007 10:16 AM Permalink
What you will say for Mr.Kalaam... He is a muslim. He is a person loved by each and every indian. Nobody looked him as a muslim. Instead everybody looked him as a true indian, who cares about the welfare of is country.
RE:Pramji is an Indian
by anu on Sep 12, 2007 09:55 AM Permalink
absolutely. can't agree with you more dear. let the fanatics fight about his religion, we'll keep raking in the moolah.
for a man who is fond of power and money like our politicians can never thing of religion. Only those people who have no interest in vote bank politics or public life think about religion. So this is a crap article. If premji is really worried about maintaining non attachement to religion he would have built many schools and hospitals in india for all religions irrespective of other issues and if he respects sentiments of hindus ask him to build a temple or a church. we can then accept all this statements. Until then this is acrap article.
RE:premji
by mohammed rayaroth ali on Sep 12, 2007 10:36 AM Permalink
he bro are you shor what are talking about, do you now about premji foundation, do some home work before any type of writing, irespective of about whom your writing
RE:premji
by shyam vallabh on Sep 12, 2007 11:19 AM Permalink
Extreme beliefs do nothing but create rifts. Just because Mr. Premzi doesnt flaunt his religion doesnt mean he is any less a Muslim.
And for your information, he is precisely into Developing Schools, education, getting street children educated, providing computers to these schools.
Pl. remove your hatred for other religions, every person on this earth has a right to his belief the way he choses, just as long as it doesnt affect others.
If premji is Muslim so what , he should be recognized as enterpreneur ,ba elements in world always want that controversy should surrounds where ther is peace
It is possible for the billionaire Jawad karim (co-founder of Youtube) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jawed_Karim) or take the example of Jawad Khahai who is the Vice president of Micrososft (http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/jawadk/default.mspx) to be a devout Muslim, but that is US, but here in India one cannot be a devout Muslim and can grow in corporate ladder. Premji's reluctance to show his Muslim identity is a shame to India's secular image. He is simply scared!!!. In this regard it is pertinent to know how EX ceo of HP clarly fiorian (she is not a Muslim) who managed to talk about the greatness of Islamic civilization to Business leaders http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/speeches/fiorina/minnesota01.html
(see the last two paragrahs and reader get educate yourslef about Muslims and Islam
Leaders need courage to speak truth even in the face of stiff opposition, but Azim premji doesnt know his own roots and he is a Business man. I dont blame him , he is right in his own way
Azim premji wouldnt have risen , if he has even shown his Muslim identity. he had regretted so many time about his Muslim identity. In this regard it is pertinent to know how EX ceo of HP clarly fiorian (she is not a Muslim) who managed to talk about the greatness of Islamic civilization to Business leaders http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/speeches/fiorina/minnesota01.html
(see the last two paragrahs and reader get educate yourslef about Muslims and Islam
Leaders need courage to speak truth even in the face of stiff opposition, but Azim premji doesnt know his own roots and he is a Business man. I dont blame him , he is right in his own way
Was there a need to write this article in such a high profile business Journal Mr. Yaroslav Trofimov? Religion and professionalism - does it mix & match - never!! An article with no form and no substance. Pure bullshit.
Even at partition Azim Premji's family represented the modern face of their Muslim past. In that he is more at home with most Hindus who are comfortable with modernity and science than with the religiously indoctrinated Muslim majority. The Wall Street Journal reference to his family declining Jinah's offer to join him in Pakistan is a clear illustration of this.
So much for his public face. Just as he does not dance to Islamic orthodoxy, he is also liberated from the rituals and prejudices of his Hindu ancestors. Azim is no doubt the role model that Muslims should aspire to. Could political parties of the left (Congress, Communists et al) ever be weaned of their dependency of vote bank politics, which has kept them in blindness and ignorance? In such manner they may kept alive the dream of the past when as Muslims they lorded it over the Hindus, but now stand imprisoned in a way of life and thought of a bygone age.
The British in their pique of resentment have often pointed to the poor and downtrodden Muslims of Bharat. The Kalams and Premjis in their millions are clear examples of Muslims who as Indians could never have embraced the theocratic Pakistan State.
The West found their answer in emulating the manners and customs of their cultural superiors, the Greeks and Romans. Surely, there are some lessons to be derived from the ancient history of our country that could the same or similar purpose?
RE:Azim Premji & Islam
by balaord on Sep 12, 2007 09:05 AM Permalink
Muslims are not conformtable with science ? what are taking about!! Modern Science owes its existience to Muslims See the Standford exeuctive directior and President of American MAthematical Association's view in Guardian
How Islam kick started science http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/sciences/story/0,12243,786006,00.html
See the Editor of UK's independent'view How muslim inventors changed the world http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20060311/ai_n16147544
Thanks to BJP's appeasement throary, a community which was once a rule elite was reduced to begging in just 50 yrs.
and thanks to Premji who has showed , you can be succesful in India only if you dump your Muslim identity
RE:RE:Azim Premji & Islam
by ravi kumar on Sep 12, 2007 09:20 AM Permalink
Muslims has definitely done some work in science but in only places where the state was separeted from the religion. Mathematics was copied from india. On chemistry they have done some early work. And humanity owes them. Beggers nobody has reduced any body to beggers last 50 years bjp has definitely not ruled. In the so called most communal state, gujrat, muslims are most prosperous among all states. So all your statements are plainly false. Better go home and cool your mind and read the facts. purge your brain from biasness and pure selfishness. And then you are welcome to comment.
RE:Azim Premji & Islam
by anu on Sep 12, 2007 09:59 AM Permalink
the way you are fighting i won't be surprised if you believe the jews did 9/11 and they are the root cause of all problems. seriously man what are you worried about? nobody cares what religion you are from as long as you are a nice guy.
