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all hype
by ash gupta on May 22, 2007 09:41 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Can you explain what will be the value of 2-5 lakh per year salary in 2025!!!!!!. at an annual 5 percent inflation rate.......NOTHING
Classic case of misplaced figures.

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RE:all hype
by DEVANAND DEEPU on May 22, 2007 10:21 AM  Permalink
You are rite, if this growth was at current time then it was worth.

China has already reached on this Stage and its Consumer Market is Doubling-Tripling everyday.

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golden bird
by Nagraj on May 22, 2007 09:28 AM  Permalink 

thank you for the article. let it happen as indicated in article.

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RE:Great Indian Civilisation ( The Greatest Coverup )
by anirban bandyopadhyay on May 22, 2007 09:40 AM  Permalink
When write these facts please do not copy.

Give your opinion. Note that by western history, Adam and eve were in srilanka, then they did not came to india. They went to Africa then africa to europe and then from europe to india. What a hard logic

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RE:Great Indian Civilisation ( The Greatest Coverup )
by Naalayak Chhokra on May 22, 2007 10:05 AM  Permalink
There was no adam and eve... all Darwin theory is crap..

If Goats became giraffe, then that same land should have no goats at all. But there exists goats. Goats long neck made it giraffe, but why did its color change??

Darwin theory is one lonely man's imaginations. I am surprised how the world has accepted it.

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Future!
by Maprayil Joseph on May 22, 2007 09:26 AM  Permalink 

The Article is on `what can be'. People on the board are discussion `what has been' or `what is. Be a bit more optimistic guys.

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Please get your facts correct
by K2G on May 22, 2007 09:20 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

While it was a good article overall, I would like to bring the author's attention to the first sentence where she mentions that before the foreign invasions, there was no poverty in India. This is wrong.
Even in the days when India was one of the richest countries in the world with about a quarter of the world's (the then ) GDP, India still had much poverty - (Source - "The wonder that was India" - AL Basham)
I do not mean to criticize either the author or her article, but it would do well for all us Indians to accept the truth and strive not to repeat our past mistakes.

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RE:Please get your facts correct
by anirban bandyopadhyay on May 22, 2007 09:31 AM  Permalink
Dear K2G,

Indian economic system was different. Weakly vivekananda's "Hindu communism" was extremely useful to hide that poverty to talk about.

In simple words, there were thousands of temples used to provide foods, and those were sufficient, and now if this practice is revived, the problem will be in much better shape.

Another point huge donation of business man for the shake of religion.

Please consider these facts.

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RE:Please get your facts correct
by s b on May 22, 2007 10:11 AM  Permalink
Oh this is crap. The way to glory is to recognize weakness and not live in fools paradise.

India like any other part was VERY poor. Economic disparity was the order of the day. Before we answer "whether India was rich" lets answer - WHO was india?" The kings and queens only? The rich dynasties only OR everyone? Did we not have the tribes? The Gonds, the santhals, The baigas, the Bodos, The Khasis, The Paintias, Ahirs, gujjars? Were they all rich?

Remember, the history does not talk of common people. It talks of only kings. Even then The Ramayana had a Shabri, did it not?

Lets have data before we speak. It is true we had immense wealth. The doab was as fertile as Tigris banks or Nile Delta, we had precious stones and we were prolific traders. But this wealth did not get distributed evenly. Reasons being our caste system created artificial barriers. Also, our financial market were weak. We did not have stock exchange or wider ownerships. Business was always family driven. Any economics student will explain you what a Hindu growth rate is. Europe had Stock exchanges, Venture capital and bonds in 1500s. We did not. That meant poor wealth distribution.

Although some studies have shown 25% of world GDP (and some other have disputed it) please know that it was nothing significant!!! Understand from historic perspective.

There was no North America, no South America, No oil (middle east) and Africa was dark. So 25% figure practically means 1/4 of Europe China india indo-china. Not bad but nothing great. And remember, those days only wealth was farm products and Precious metal, both a gift of nature, nothing ingenious (farm tools were invented 8000 yrs ago). Once industrial revolution came, Europeans made slaves out of us.

Look I am a proud Indian. But these misleading articles do no good for our development and make us lazy - like our cricket team - which everybody feels is greatest - but no data points to that.

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Truth is something different
by David Raja on May 22, 2007 09:10 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I don't believe in these articles. I had the opportunity of living in Chennai for 5 years in the past and currently living in Bangalore for almost 2 years. Even the basic necessity for living is not present. Consider the busiest place of Chennai and B'lore - Ranganathan St [daily market transaction in lakhs] and MG Road.
Do we have proper drainage and roads in the most busiest place?
Are the pavements fit enough for us to walk?
Dont we see the policemen getting bribes from the vendors?
Is electricity present even in the metro's 24/7?

When such is the case in the busiest places think of the villages, towns beyond. I have visisted these places ~ where there are no roads, schools, hospitals, drinking water.

Leave the "Golden Bird", let the real free Indian bird fly first. The moment "ANY GOVERNMENT, INCLUDING THE POLITICIANS" work for the country and earnestly try for the upliftment of the villages, towns, cities, I assure you, WE WILL BE IN POVERTY.

Please do not go by the hype created by media. They are generating money for their own.

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RE:Truth is something different
by rakesh bhardwaj on May 22, 2007 09:50 AM  Permalink
I completely agree by David.Probably the pin striped Management gurus sitting in Air conditioned offices should go down below in the streets and see how a poor man still walks the whole day in scorching heat just to repay his debts and make both ends meet.
How a small child works 18 hours a day at a Dhaba to support himself and maybe his mother.How a small child works 24X7 as a domestic help just to feed himself?Can the author of this report feel the power cuts?Are these going to decrease?Is he blind to the long queues at Rly Stn,Airports,Roads,virtually everywhere?Can more money reduce this?
Has the author visited the country enough to notice how thereis still no drinking water,schools,telephones,medical care etc all basic neccessities.
I think this guy is just imagining something and by adding name of some stupid foreign agency wants to give credibility to it.

Anyways a good story for a Bollywood masala!
RAKESH,DELHI

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RE:Truth is something different
by arpit asdasd on May 22, 2007 12:43 PM  Permalink
i agree with rakesh 100%

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RE:Truth is something different
by anirban bandyopadhyay on May 22, 2007 09:43 AM  Permalink
Are you Sick????

And this guy mallya another sick in the board. I am also in japan for 3 years. Japan is number 2 because they love their country forget the bad and loves praises the good.

Are you a labor there???? Please see them and learn

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RE:Truth is something different
by heerashankar mallayya on May 22, 2007 09:21 AM  Permalink
Great, I am living in Japan from 2 yrs and also feel the same thoughts as shared by David raja.
This Media is just creating a hype of small thing and neither can india become a superpower nation.

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