OLD VERSION.. The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks the ant%u2019s a fool and laughs & dances & plays the summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed. The grasshopper has no food or shelter so he dies out in the cold.
MODERN VERSION The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks the ant's a fool and laughs & dances & plays the summer away. Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving.
NDTV, BBC, CNN show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food. The World is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can this be that this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so?
Arundhati Roy stages a demonstration in front of the ant%u2019s house. Medha Patkar goes on a fast along with other grasshoppers demanding that grasshoppers be relocated to warmer climates during winter. Amnesty International and Koffi Annan criticize the Indian Government for not upholding the fundamental rights of the grasshopper. The Internet is flooded with online petitions seeking support to the grasshopper (many promising Heaven and Everlasting Peace for prompt support as against the wrath of God for non-compliance) . Opposition MP's stage a walkout.Left parties call for "Bharat Bandh" in West Bengaland Kerala demanding a Judicial Enquiry.CPM in Kerala immediately passes a law preventing Ants from working hard in the heat so as to bring about equality of poverty among ants and grasshoppers.
Lalu Prasad allocates one free coach to Grasshoppers on all Indian Railway Trains, aptly named as the 'Grasshopper Rath'.
Finally, the Judicial Committee drafts the Prevention of Terrorism Against Grasshoppers Act [POTAGA]", with effect from the beginning of the winter.
Arjun Singh makes Special Reservation for Grass Hopper in educational Insititutions & in Govt Services.
The ant is fined for failing to comply with POTAGA and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the Government and handed over to the grasshopper in a ceremony covered by NDTV.
Arundhati Roy calls it "a triumph of justice". Lalu calls it 'Socialistic Justice'. CPM calls it the 'revolutionary resurgence of the downtrodden' Koffi Annan invites the grasshopper to address the UN General Assembly.
Many years later...The ant has since migrated to the USand set up a multi billion dollar company in silicon valley.100s of grasshoppers still die of starvation despite reservation somewhere in India.
RE:Funny Story but is it True??
by Bhagwan Prasad Baranwal on Mar 25, 2007 07:29 PM Permalink
CUT THE STORY SHORT, AFTER THE INDEPENDENCE WE PEOPLE AT THE POLICY FRAMING LEVEL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF INDIA, JUST HALF HEARTEDLY TRIED TO MAKE A DEVELOPMENTAL PLAN. STILL THE GOI IS DOING THE SAME THING. JUST EDUCATE EVERY ONE THROUGH GOOD EDUCATION SYSTEM, THE BRIGHT RESULT WILL BE OUT.
RE:Funny Story but is it True??
by SteeveB on Mar 26, 2007 07:39 AM Permalink
You nailed it man. I don't care what others are saying, but your story really represents the condition of present India.
RE:Funny Story but is it True??
by Sivakumar Periasamy on Mar 24, 2007 08:31 AM Permalink
what a chilly story!!!! Has ever U studied the Biolgy.... Do U know the speciation, species characteristics...species specificity... Neither Grasshooper can live in Ant's house, nor ants can fly.. they have their own life style, own kind of survival...Dont campare these 2 for the sake of writing, like our Greatest epics/puranas.. All men never born with all kind of talents what he epress...it is his family...it is his society...it is his background of brought up...it is his education..it is his role models.../that make him to work hard..think better..earn more money...save it for generation....Not only the factor that being a person of backward community determines his ability.. Dont be over smart....no body ask your bullshit niapaisa (1/100th paisa) for any body welfare. Its his governemnt paisa..he is asking. How much U are enjoying the facility of a federal government...thta much they ask. U are trying to criticise a section of community...U are trying to pacify the supposed to be a elite group in the society... U earn mony like aunt anf stockpile in the underground hide outs..sooner the flood will come and take all of yousrs... the grasshooper will laugh while flying over the flood. This is nature's judgement
RE:Funny Story but is it True??
by Prakash A on Mar 24, 2007 06:45 AM Permalink
I think you are one among Brahmin parasites who created caste system, exploited people and denied oppurtunities for other caste people. If I was a Hitler, I would have killed all selfish Brahmins.
RE:RE:Funny Story but is it True??
by Chhora Allahabadi on Mar 24, 2007 07:50 AM Permalink
You are the biggest idiot who dares to write without the knowledge of history and Hinduism. The way you are projecting is that Brahmins in Hinduism were responsible for all that you said. Brahmins were the people for whom the mantra was %u201C Yagya Karna aur Karana%u201D, %u201CPadhna aur Padhana%u201D %u201CDaan lena aur Daan Dena%u201D. Have you seen any Brahmin ruler in the history of Hinduism?
1. Krishn got Agrapuja (First Prayer) in Mahabharat by Brahmins. Krishna was a Yadav (BC). He got agrapuja because of his knowledge and good deeds. 2. Ram Chandra of Ramayan is worshiped by Brahmins though he was a Kshatriya. He is getting worshipped because of his good deeds. 3. Gautam Budh, Mahaveer Swami all are worshiped because of their good deeds not because where they are born.
Brahmins have sacrificed for India a lot. It%u2019s shameful that people like you do not recognize it. Dr. Ambedkar was promoted by the upper class, because of his good deeds. To get that kind of respect one has to show some merit. Without merit even a god is not worshiped.
So do not blame Hinduism for the segregation of the society back then. It%u2019s all in your mind. Until you start developing your merit nobody will think of you whether it%u2019s Hinduism, Sikhism, Christienity or what ever.
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by Sivakumar Periasamy on Mar 24, 2007 09:06 AM Permalink
A well known historian..a pandit of Indian historoian teaches the ABCD of Indian History. In this technological world...U, the most deserved greatest idiot quote and cross-refer the Krishnas story..that to u are catewgorising the Krishna as BC, Arjun as Brahmin, Dharman as SC.. I could laugh a lot after reading your message.
RE:Funny Story but is it True??
by krishnamohan pasumarthi on Mar 24, 2007 02:14 AM Permalink
Oh, my this is really funny story and thought provoking though.i was so excited to reach the end of the story. Moral of the story well communicated. Thanks-Krishna
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by SANTOSH on Mar 24, 2007 09:11 AM Permalink
Good story; few of my grasshoper friends with low score were able to get govt jobs in universities without much effort in studies. My other friends who are ranks students are now settled in US, having good time.
RE:Funny Story but is it True??
by Sicilian on Mar 24, 2007 04:30 AM Permalink
Biggest Bull shit crap I have ever read!!!! If he could have said that the ant work hard in winter and grasshopper takes all, I could have accepted that version.
RE:Funny Story but is it True??
by samindla rao on Mar 24, 2007 05:42 AM Permalink
Mr ant. Reservations existed in the country for the last what 30 years. Hinduism (that means india) is the oldest faith in the world( older than Judaism) which means it existed long before birth of christ atleast few thousand years before that. So grasshoppers suffering was since of birth hinduism. There was not much of media 30 years ago and there is no way to assess what their sufferings were. Now that you wrote such an interesting story why dont you please do one thing. Tomorrow when u step out of your house for work or college, ask every poor person ( by your own criteria) whether he belongs to a forward caste or backward caste. Now every one of us know that India is just starting to grow and there is more demand than supply.But whatabout INdia before last 15 years ago. These grasshoppers were trapped in the cycle of poverty for the last thousands of years. The problem with these "economically backward" forward caste people is that " every one around them like their friends, family are all super rich" and they are just helpless and want money to meet their endless material desires. But that is not the case of "most of the backward class people". And read and sink what sai gundavelli said" The wealth in India is still controlled by a small percentage of the people in the country(ants), so even if their parents are educated people, they may work in low-paying, civil service jobs (grasshoppers). There is no way it is possible to break the entrenched social system and the cultural barriers (caste barriers)over there.
Because of people like you the whole hindu community is losing its people to other religions in the name of conversions. Just for being a "hindu" you call them BC and SC. Most of the people out there who represent Hindu communiites are the backward caste people. All these ants( forward caste people) are not ready to loose their identity as ants, but fight for "no reservation on caste basis". First of all let the forward caste people give up their caste name and identity and then talk about other caste people leaving reservations.
Every one talks about discrimination of blacks by whites in America. That probably lasted for 150 years. Next time when u say that think of what happened to these poor people for the last 5000 years. Buddha left hinduism, Lord Mahavir left hinduism, King Asoka left hinduism for buddhism and there will be so many leaving. my common man dont be born as a backward caste in Hinduism. Thanks
RE:Funny Story but is it True??
by sumeet subhash jaiswal on Mar 24, 2007 12:35 PM Permalink
You are the biggest idiot and becouse idiots like you Inida is in bad shape.
RE:Funny Story but is it True??
by Chhora Allahabadi on Mar 24, 2007 07:50 AM Permalink
You are the biggest idiot who dares to write without the knowledge of history and Hinduism. The way you are projecting is th
RE:Funny Story but is it True??
by Sivakumar Periasamy on Mar 24, 2007 09:01 AM Permalink
U are just a Selfish and Social-dividing force
With your great brain, with your great caste name and community name, with your personal and political influence....U stockpile all the wealth and properties of Mother India either in underground..or in Switzerland bank or undert your bed or under your toilet seat... One day Mother India will burst out...bank will be sealed...ur bed will be burnt...ur toilet seat will be broken...U will find nothing than ur ashes...
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by Prashant Rane on Mar 24, 2007 11:40 PM Permalink
Whatever you say Siva and who was the other one..Let me scroll up..samindla.. I am amazed by what you both have to say..neways, I dont want to get in any sort of arguments and really dont care what you say!! But thats the fact what I feel. Thanks guys. and siva why will mother india harm me?? i am not doing anything wrong with her(Now dont start the crap of green gases and all those bull****, if you are aware of it))!! Everything eventually will turn in ashes at the end, its just the way how you want to live till the end :-) Good Luck Pal..
The success of Indian entrepreneurs is highly evident and a matter of great pride for the Indian-American community here in the US.
The biggest puzzle however is the question why the same entrepreneurs are unable to achieve sucess (proportionally) in India itself. Here are some of the main reasons I can think of.
1. The inverse relationship between the social fabric and government policy. The truth of the matter is that Indians as a people are highly innovative and capitalistic. This is evident from the success the Indian diaspora has achieved all over the world (not just the USA). The Indian government however has adopted a doctrine of anti-capitalistic socialism. For a nation and its people to be truly successful the govenment has to mirror the spirit of the people. In this case they are total opposites which is why a lot of young Indians get frustrated and seek opportunities abroad in more capitalistic environments like the USA.
2. Conservative approach by educational institutions. I am a physician by profession, but I am also a research scientist. I always like to speak with graduate students from other parts of the world to learn about the experiences in their respective countries. All the Indian students always complain that they never got support from their faculties when they tried to conduct cutting edge research using unconventional ideas. Ironically, this is what experimental science is all about. The senior faculty in most Indian institutions simply wait for the western nations to make important break-throughs while they waste their own time doing "we too" research i.e. simply copying the experiments done elsewhere to claim that "we too proved this can be done." In the meanwhile all the bright graduate students (and there are MANY) leave to come work at labs here in the USA.
3. The misconception of money. Whenever I visit India and ask my friends and relatives as to why a country that produces so many quality scientists and engineers is unable to conduct ground breaking research or other entrepreneureal endeavors I always get the rhetorical reply "because you Americans have so much money to throw." This has to be one of the stupidest replies in history of mankind. True, USA has a lot more money, but the overheads here are ridiculous too. India with a dearth of talent (in the form of graduate students) and lower costs can probably do just as much as the USA or atleast parts of wester europe and Japan.
The IT industry however is exempt from this. Again, its a common misconception in the west that they do nothing other than run some meaningless call centers. That however cannot be far from the truth. The Indian IT machine is on the cutting edge of software and now even hardware science. The reason however is because its a field run by a young generation who don't carry the emotional baggage of their seniors. They are highly daring and confident of their skills which makes them extrmely competitive on the global scene. I wish Indians from all fields wake up and take a lesson from these guys.
I would like to start a discussion about this topic. I only request that each person who chooses to participate in this conversation list where they live and work (India or elewhere) and what industry they are in. Thank you
RE:Entrepreneurship in India
by Prakash A on Mar 24, 2007 07:01 AM Permalink
I do not understand what so big to be pride about Indian community in the US or anyother country for that matter. You are trying to portray as if Indians are the only people started business in the US and become sucesful.
RE:Entrepreneurship in India
by Praveen Rai on Mar 24, 2007 04:18 AM Permalink
I live in US. I am a mechanical engineer, and worked in automation industry (Japnese company). Currently pursuing MBA in finance.
Aditya, you said it well. Post-independent India has been bogged down by an incredible entrepreneurial inertia because of govt. policies. Before coming here, I worked in Bombay and Bangalore for a year and I personally experienced the lethargy and indifference of people in positions of power. There was incompetence everywhere. I certainly feel that it wasn't because of lack of intelligence or ability; it was utter lack of desire to see meaningful progress either at personal level or at institutional level. People lacked the will to succeed because there was no "profit motive" as famously termed by Adam Smith. I had heard a story about a top Director in one of the top companies bringing pillow and mattress to have a long afternoon nap; there was no accountability. Fortunately, tide is turning and we have model entrepreneurs in Narayan Murthy, Azim Premji, the Ambanis and so on. I was just watching Maria Bartiromo of CNBC interviewing young Aditya Mittal and that should be inspiring to millions of aspiring talents in India. I don't mind an evolutionary approach to growth in our young capitalist society as opposed to fast-paced growth without proper foundation and institutional development. But, we simply don't have the political will (the Nehruvian socialists and the obsolete communist ideologies still command lot of power and they clearly are becoming the impediments) to make the necessary, serious changes to achieve consistent growth. I still see young politicians like Rahul Gandhi trying to play the divisive politics; it is as though we take a step forward with all the progress in IT/ life sciences/manufacturing and then sadly take a step back with anti-growth policies to please some sections of the society. My only hope is that the growth machine that's generating this much-touted 8% GDP every year has the momentum to sustain its forward move notwithstanding lack of political will to put India in the path of economic well-being. India deserves to be an economic super power, as it is vital for the global growth and well-being.
RE:Entrepreneurship in India
by Sicilian on Mar 24, 2007 04:36 AM Permalink
Another crap ! from another intellectual ! Socialism, Communism, Democracy, and all other isms and cracies are crap !!! Its all abt leadership in the individual isms or cracies . Indians succeed (succeed in what? sports? ) cas they are coming from a competative region and culturally/region-wise they are taught to think only of self then society. What crap!!
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by Sicilian on Mar 24, 2007 04:39 AM Permalink
What about success of china and the soviet russia which beat the shit out of germany in world war-2. The germany which conquered france and made britain a sitting duck.
RE:Entrepreneurship in India
by tar sha on Mar 24, 2007 03:09 AM Permalink
I think we Indians in India are risk averse as there is no feeling of security. Plus there is too much pressure from social circle to be successful; so most of the people choose easy and tested ways to become successful rather than taking paths which are filled with enormous risks.
Also, I have seen many of my frineds doing great in their business. But unfortunately media does not report those people as they are mainly in traditional business. But if someone starts up a small compnay in bay area, they will definitely get some recognition in Indian media.
We dont have enough statistics which indicates how many people start their own and fail (both in US and India) to come at some conclusion. Plus dont forget the reality that people who migrate to US are highly educated people and we should not compare them with average indians.
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by ram on Mar 23, 2007 09:11 PM Permalink
I work as engineer (non-it) In USA.
It all part of Darwins theory of evolution. Life in tropics was much easy than life in artics. Throw a stone up in air and there would be a nice luscious coconout to eat. While things were dead in artics. SOme one had to invent steam power to prevent their blood from freezing. It was finally james watt. Now- Wetsetrn countries (which have cold sub zero temperatures) have progrssed and maintain a much confortable lifestyle now. India is still poor.
I had to become a engineer or a doctor. I had no choice. If someone points a gun point blank on to me, I can do anything, I can even get a phd in math.
We are now jealous of the progress the west has made. SO we are trying to work harder. SImple, An indian brain is no different than any other human brain. Just the effect of evolution and environment. DOnt get fooled by the numbers- I am not too sure about the quality of indian engineers. Evolution will take time. Indian cant dominate the world overnight. Indians would dominate if the environmental evolutionary conditions contnue to exist.
When food becomes a life or death question, I would do anything to get my food. If a polar bear is chasing me I would run much faster than a dog. People who work hard in life does not always mean that they are hardworking people- They are just forced to work due to dire life threatening circumstances. I would work 36 hours a day in the US rather than going back to India and breathing carcenogic gasses and living in insanitary conditions. But I have lots of lazy blood. Once I get my greencrad I can be my real self.:-)))
RE:hard working
by Serpicus on Mar 24, 2007 03:09 AM Permalink
it's "carcinogenic gases". If you want to live here, at least learn to speak the language. You worthless immigrant.
RE:hard working
by ram on Mar 25, 2007 10:52 PM Permalink
I am an engineer- there is something called microsfot word spell check to correct my typos. You dont have to worry . Is there any indain soft spell check?
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by Palash Mohanta on Mar 24, 2007 03:50 AM Permalink
Serpicus: You are good in catching mistakes. Chinese proverb: Look at the moon and not the finger which is pointing to the moon. See the moon bro.
US govt has less involvement in regulating businesses. If Indian govt stops regulating businesses, there is scope for Indian young entrepreneurs to make big.
RE:The Reason
by manoj on Mar 23, 2007 07:31 PM Permalink
Don't give silver bullet solutions, India's problems are very very BIG and not manageble by a Few sitting in Delhi..
RE:The Reason
by iamansp on Mar 23, 2007 07:37 PM Permalink
Atleast they have to try. Govt bureaucracy is atleast part of the problem and was agreed by our beloved PM a month ago. I may have phrased my above post in an incorrect way.
My perspective- The Indians whom I worked with (thank god only a handful) were not maintaining proper health and obese, rude and horrible managers trying to micromanage. The were mentally and physically much older than their real age.
To go on global facts- The number of american/european entrepreneurs far excceeds the number of indians. ALso the IT entrepreneurs in US who own a subaru/ bmw and a million dollar house are corrupt faking resumes, pay checks, immigration documents.
Dont beleive it????? Take a minute and look around and count how many things were invented by an Indian. Did indian invent your computer? TV, AC/HVAC unit, electricty, light bulb, any man made material?? any man made object? ....
Let me know if you find anything which an indian made. DOnt give me crap now saying indians are innovators and dont say this old cliche- ZERO WAS INVENTED BY INDIAN- WE NEVER PROGRSSED TO NUMBER 1 AFTER ZERO. We just work for the innovators and entrepreneurs.
RE:crap
by Sivakumar Periasamy on Mar 23, 2007 08:00 PM Permalink
Ram, u are right. for the sake of filling pages in electronic media, I used to see the exagerrated stories on Indian enterprenuers, although they are not far excellent than others, in message board. Nedd to be scrutinised for real facts.
RE:crap
by Sivakumar Periasamy on Mar 23, 2007 07:57 PM Permalink
Manoj, what do U mean???????? Don't u have sense when the messsage board discuss some real things,,, why do lead unnecessary topic
RE:crap
by Minoo Printer on Mar 24, 2007 05:03 AM Permalink
OK, next time before posting on a public forum and getting an egg on the face please do you homework. I am an Indian and very proud of it. Q. Who is the GM of Hewlett Packard (hp) ? A. Rajiv Gupta Q. Who is the creator of Pentium chip (needs no introduction as 90% of the today's computers run on it)? A. Vinod Dahm Q. Who is the third richest man on the world? A. According to the latest report on Fortune Magazine, it is Azim Premji, who is the CEO of Wipro Industries. The Sultan of Brunei is at 6 th position now. Q. Who is the founder and creator of Hotmail (Hotmail is world's No.1 web based email program)? A. Sabeer Bhatia Q. Who is the new MTD (Microsoft Testing Director) of Windows 2000, responsible to iron out all initial problems? A. Sanjay Tejwrika Q. Who are the Chief Executives of CitiBank, Mckensey & Stanchart? A. Victor Menezes, Rajat Gupta, and Rana Talwar. Q. Indians are the wealthiest among all ethnic groups in America ,There are 3.22 millions of Indians in USA (1.5% of population); and, 38% of doctors in USA are Indians. 12% scientists in USA are Indians. 36% of NASA scientists are Indians. 34% of Microsoft employees are Indians. 28% of IBM employees are Indians. 17% of INTEL scientists are Indians. 13% of XEROX employees are! Indians. Some of the following facts may be known to you. These facts were recently published in a German magazine, which deals with WORLD HISTORY FACTS ABOUT INDIA . 1. India never invaded any country in her last 1000 years of history. 2. India invented the Number system. Zero was invented by Aryabhatta. 3. The world's first University was established in Takshila in 700BC. More than 10,500 students from all over the world studied more than 60 subjects. The University of Nalanda built in the 4th century BC was one of the greatest achievements of ancient India in the field of education. 4. According to the Forbes magazine, Sanskrit is the most suitable language for computer software. 5. Ayurveda is the earliest school of medicine known to humans. 7. The art of navigation was born in the river Sindh 5000 years ago. The very word "Navigation" is derived from the Sanskrit word NAVGATIH. 8. The value of pi was first calculated by Budhayana, and he explained the concept of what is now k! nown as the Pythagorean Theorem. British scholars have last year (1999) officially published that Budhayan's works dates to the 6 th Century which is long before the European mathematicians. 9. Algebra, trigonometry and calculus came from India . Quadratic equations were by Sridharacharya in the 11 th Century; the largest numbers the Greeks and the Romans used were 106 whereas Indians used numbers as big as 10 53. 10. According to the Gemmological Institute of America, up until 1896, India was the only source of diamonds to the world. 12. The earliest reservoir and dam for irrigation was built in Saurashtra. 13. Chess was invented in India . 14. Sushruta is the father of surgery. 2600 years ago he and health scientists of his time conducted surgeries like cesareans, cataract, fractures and urinary stones. Usage of anaesthesia was well known in ancient India . 15. When many cultures in the world were only nomadic forest dwellers over 5000 years ago, Indians established Harappan culture in Sindhu Valley ( Indus Valley Civilisation). 16. The place value system, the decimal system was developed in India in 100 BC.
RE:crap
by Pratyush Paul on Mar 26, 2007 07:53 AM Permalink
Hi Minoo - most of the stuff you have written is wrong, none of these people like vinod/kalpana/Sabeer and others are not Indian at all, they have long time surrendered their Indian passports, and they have taken an oath during their citizenship ceremony to fight against India, if there is a war between the US and India. There are 1 doctor for every 20 people in the US( It is there in the US medical Journal) so there are some 15 million doctors in the US. Now if I take your 38% are indians, it is close to 6 millions indian doctors in the US, the indian community is just 3.2 millions. If you do not have the right #s, please do not pump in stupid information to make india/indians smarter or better. It shows how stupid we indians are. Your stupid culture etc you keep them with you, india has a 93% of the Asian poverty today. In corruption we are 81, pakistan is 87 and bangaladesh is 132. A 5000 year old credential is not going to help you dude, if you have cutting edge technology to feed the 1.2 billion population will certain help the poor millions in India. Do not talk rubbish, be realistic.
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by Vijay Purbhe on Mar 24, 2007 05:26 AM Permalink
By the way, can you provide us with some invention that India came up with in last 200 years?
Minooo,your post reads like an outdated India tourism brochure. Please do yourself a favor - ask the above group who make you feel proud - HOW MANY OF THEM CONSIDER THEMSELVES INDIAN and anything they invented ? Most of the people you are talking about are EMPLOYEES in the US.Where are the entrepreneurs ?
RE:crap
by Vijay Purbhe on Mar 24, 2007 05:25 AM Permalink
Minoo, If we consider your "impressive" numbers about the Indians working in US, then all Indians in US must be either doctors, scientists, or engineers, far from truth. As I always say, false pride harms India more than anything else. You guys are so proud of Indians making it big to these MNCs, have you ever wondered why Laxmi Mittal doesnt have even a single penny worth of investment in India? Stop blabbering and talk truth.
I am in Toronto, Canada and see here lots of things. Indians are hardworking, simple, and have less lavish expenditure compared to North Americans. We can work till late evening, when orders are more and have to be run business. Local canadians want to drink and enjoy after 5 pm. Our goods are better and cheaper. Bhaskar Mittal,P.Eng. Toronto, Canada
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by manoj on Mar 23, 2007 07:15 PM Permalink
This successful guy says " Our Country" meaning america, I wonder how this guy qualifies as an INDIAN meriting an article on him in an indian website. Get back to your senses Rediff!
The reasons are very simple to guess. 1. Indians wherever they are corrupt by nature, and therefore cheat. 2. America runs on trust, and so Indians exploit the system intelligently. 3. Use cheap illegal/legal immigrant labour to extract the maximum out of the system.
It won't be a surprise if a simple audit/check will result in most of the indian businesses to shut down.
The way i see it, all the above are not bad, as some people (who are intelligent enough) are making the maximum out of the system and making the laws of the land look like an Ass. And the law everywhere "Is really an Ass".
RE:Reasons are simple....
by Aditya on Mar 23, 2007 07:20 PM Permalink
What a load of crap. Americans didn't become a dominant force in the world out of stupidity. Rest assured the vigilance system here in the US is higher than most other palces in the world. Indians world over are revered for their work ethic and intelligence. Just look at how successful the Indian diaspora is world over.
My parents migrated to the west due to lack of economic opportunity in India in the 70s. Although I was born and raised in the USA I have now come to realize the value of the Indian work force. Albeit the influence of Indians in medicine (my field) is not as strong as in the tech sector, we are still highly respected.
I suggest you do some homework and research before mouthing off. Also, you might want to take these unfounded bigotry ridden statements and shove it.
RE:Reasons are simple....
by Surya on Mar 23, 2007 07:57 PM Permalink
Hey vaibhav jain What is wrong in someone being black.You are talking like a racist who said white is superior,you must be a big fool to think so.Even if there are white south indians i dont agree with you in thinking white are superior.This is like black and white debate in US where black is beautiful too you must be a fool to think white is better.And regarding the contribution of Indians to US,its great i agree with you on that but these great Indians used to work under dirty law breaking Indians who immigrated to US earlier and know some law of the land and take advantage of poor newly arraived Indians in US, These Indians must be burnt alive.These dirty Indians include all the body shoppers including the big ones like TCS Infosys,Wipro,and lot of small ones these people are hungry for $ and do anything including sacrificing fellow Indians for $.
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by panchumarthi Rajasekhar on Mar 24, 2007 03:36 AM Permalink
What the heck are you talking. These indian companies siginificantly impacted many indian families and increased living standards. Every great thing starts with the tiny one. These are Indian companies which kept india on the world map and generate wealth for India. Many indians who works in US are lust for money and don't follow in ethics. When you work in these Indian IT biggies, you can see how professional these companies works. Even American Multinational corporations follows the same business model adapted by Indian companies to remain competetive. These Indian companies contribute to lot of charity work in India. Don't blinbdly abuse any indian company
RE:Reasons are simple....
by sinouvassane arunmozhi on Mar 24, 2007 02:53 AM Permalink
I agree to some extend, but "you have to tell me a magic of getting Indians on top of the world in a nite". It takes time, those dirty companies (as use you mentioned) are the ones who showed to the world that Indian can do the IT works. Now the world started recognizing us. Infact only recently TATA and Reliance are pasting the global map in there walls. A software engineer from Indian lower middle class family is thinking of traveling globally, because of these %u201Cdirty%u201D companies. If thousand people travel one of them would realize of having be being entrepreneur one day. I am not fully supporting them, but they started with good cause. Now they are established, it's time for them to realize and do innovative works rather doing body shopping .
RE:A country is not made of land; a country is made of its people.
by vijay on Mar 23, 2007 06:30 PM Permalink
According to your logic, every body who practices Hinduism should be hating one another. Is it not great that you are still alive, among so many people who hate one another? The way i see it is that Hinduism is great enough to accept retarded people to live among it.
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by Vaibhav K Beohar on Mar 23, 2007 07:07 PM Permalink
what are u guys up to? give urself a break. the topic was indian entrepreneurial success. u guys should be ashamed u even keep such a crappy subject going for such an interesting topic. the reason why india has been lagging for centuries is because of such internal infightings on triffling subjects like religions and religionalism which divide us.
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by iamansp on Mar 23, 2007 07:33 PM Permalink
Is Islam unconstitutional bcoz Shiria law is bull crap? Stoning women, cutting off body parts and not to forget that freaking talaq talaq and talaq. Dont forget that if you go into the core of any religion they segregate. It is for we as people to realize what we accept and what we dont when following a religion.
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by manoj on Mar 23, 2007 07:45 PM Permalink
That is why Muslims get the feedback from USA nicely in every country..
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by dinesh kovuru on Mar 23, 2007 06:28 PM Permalink
its time u update ur self with wat hinduism is, hidusim gives the luxury of being a aeithist , whiele still being a hindu, where as other religions donot do so!!! as ur thrown out of the so called society if u behave as atheist, accrdoing to the indian law, U are a "hindu" if u are not a muslim, christian, zorastrian and for that matter if u donot belong by birth to any religion, tell me whichther religion gives u such an option, I guess ur not well versed with ur history pls go n read it, it was the brtishers who were the main culprits to divide the indian pple, and the castes and creed was created amongst the hindus in the ancient times based on the occupation , and pple of each caste coexisted in peace becos each one required the services of the other, and thus the indian civilization flourished, correct ur facts , donot go by wat pple say, reaD the texts first, pple say 101 things but they may not be accurate as u think so, u may verify my statements too
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by Pradeep Thomas on Mar 24, 2007 03:21 AM Permalink
Hey buddy.. are you some kindda alien ??
Have you ever looked at history properly..
well Brits came to India in 16th Cent. But Hinduism is reported to exist for 30 centuries. Was it the Brits who brought Untouchability to India.. and seperation of the manking based on the work they do??
It is Aaryans.. who claim themselves to be the elite and called themselves as Brahmins.. the uper caste. so that they can enjoy the power by fooling the rest of us. Brits used the caste for their own. Tell me 100 yrs back which community had the privileage of education - it is the Brahmins.. only after the Brtis came inside the country there were schools and colleges.. accessible for people all caste.
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by manoj on Mar 23, 2007 07:12 PM Permalink
Don't glorify stupidity and contradictions!
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by Abhay T on Mar 23, 2007 07:04 PM Permalink
You clearly don't know what Hinduism stands for. Hinduism stands for two aspects 1. Religion itself and the other 2. Complex culture generated with many social elements. If you are talking about religion, you are completely under wrong impression. Bhagwat Geeta clearly says "Chaturvarnam (Brhamin, Kshatriya, Vaisya, Shudra) maya krutva Gun (qualities you possess) Karma (Your deeds) vibhagashaha (classification). It means GOD clearly says your Karma and qualities are more important than your birth. In many another verses GOD clearly says, "No only everyone is equal to the GOD, but their own faiths are established by GOD himself. And all faiths ultimately come to HIM just like all rivers flowing in different directions ultimately reach the same ocean.". In very old examples, Valmiki was a thief. But, when he realised his mistakes he became sage through his Karma. The social structure that we see today is a result of complex local and political situations people have gone through in 1000s of years of history. But that is not supported by Hindu religion.
In fact, Hinduism stands for equality and tolerance. India was a great land of opportunity like US today. They welcomed foreigners, adopted their culture, accepted their knowledge because they believed in principles of Hinduism.
In general, it is not the religion that defines our social behaviour. Would you call the behaviour of cricket fans as religious? I think, it is merely a result of complex history that India has got. All other major religions too have internal cast systems and they do hate each other. So, I don't think, blaming Hinduism is appropriate.
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by Sicilian on Mar 24, 2007 03:59 AM Permalink
Go and take out the police records from all over India and see who does what to the oppressed and then come to conclusion, the fact is, the depressed classes face discrimination in education,administration and business from all the upper castes...even the one which is just above them. Brahmins are the scapegaots by the other upper castes.
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by arun shekar on Mar 23, 2007 06:25 PM Permalink
almost all of the religions are crap anyways....culture is nothing but a way of living..which people are reluctant to change for good...basically wanting to have control on their younger generations. have an open mind..you can experience life better.
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by panchumarthi Rajasekhar on Mar 24, 2007 09:45 AM Permalink
Hinduism is a way of life. It never arrogantly say it is only religion in the world to reach god that other religion does. It beleives in do your duty. Your duty is worship and never encourges blaming other religion. It is the tolerant religion towards other religion. Regarding the practices and caste system, no where in scripotures
India has produced lot of Entreprenuers who complain abt India. Even Bill gates wil vote In USA. But we wont go to vote. We F**k ourself, which we can never find even in Somalia. Lets Vote and Change ourself.
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by Krishna R on Mar 23, 2007 06:45 PM Permalink
Hey Rajesh I tried in vain, to land myself in the voters list, for almost 5 years, before i came abroad for higher studies, 2 & 1/2 yrs ago. Indeed i lost hope of ever voting. I really want to vote...
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by Tigger_and_Pooh on Mar 24, 2007 12:54 AM Permalink
Folks,
I agree. Or else there wouldn't be vote banks.
I have been in interesting situations.
I have voted once only in my entire life. Since then I am like non-existent for them. I have a PAN card but no voter ID. And meanwhile, when ever I went to vote I was told I had already voted. Then I stopped trying.
