India is fast losing competative edge to China and other low cost countries. To counter that instead of companing, IT & BPO professionals should sacrifice their personal life for work. They should work more and when they are home instead of partying and watching tv should constatly be thinking about how to make the work more better and productive. When that alarm rings, you should get out of bed with "Yes another day of hard work that I am going to do. Wish there were more than 24 hrs in a day and wish I could sleep less." Now that is what we investors in big five firms are looking from people of India. Instead I see whining all around this board. What a downer. How can these people give priorities to life, wife and doing nothing? Lazy people like this are drain and will stop India's progress. Look at China, people are working 14 hrs a day with no vacations, that is what Indian workers need to be doing. Good for India, good for us investors. It will be a win win situation for all.
RE:IT & BPO workers need to be more productive.
by shiva on Jul 26, 2007 07:00 AM Permalink
We all have a choice. The reality stares at you all the time. It is for us to decide. I know of a friend who ended up without family, due to his total commitment to work. He became a stranger in his home.
I will rather live within my means than to impress others. What is the point of borrowing to repay for years, when you have other choices. While one has to be ambitious to achieve in life, there should be limits. Though it may not be practical to go to office at 10am and return at 5 pm, live our parents did, let us all try for a balanced working/family life.
We should be prepared for the long haul. Otherwise, we can lose it all and no amount of money will compensate.
It is like choosing one of - getting happiness without money, or getting money without happiness - all the chinese and some of us will choose the latter. Let us wish them well, but it is for us to make the choice.
I will stick my neck out. When you cut your unnecessary expenses, you will be with true friends. This way, you will know your true buddies. Try it out, at least for a while.
RE:IT & BPO workers need to be more productive.
by Shantanu Bapat on Jul 26, 2007 08:13 AM Permalink
A Bell Curve appraisal created competitiveness in workers. GE did the same in US and was very effective. Essentially at every level each worker is compared to his peer. They are ranked based on how much they deliver. The most contributing gets rank 1, next rank2 and so on. The top 30% should be rewarded with all the raise and bonuses that would have gone to all earlier, next 60% get nothing and bottom 10% a cut in salary. Any one falling in bottom 10% two times in a row should be fired.This discrimination is done at every level. So not only coders, but Project Managers are compared against Project Managers. PMs fired get replaced by those who come in 10% at level below. Those getting fired at lowest level get filled with aggressive, yound blood fresh out of school.Here is what happens. (1) PMs now motivate their employees even more aggresively to work, else they may fall in bottom 10%. PMs are being measured on how much they can extract work.Favoritism and liking factor goes down as PMs are more concerned with amount of work delivered. (2)Coders become fiercly competitive. They become aggressive and productive.The top 10% get rewarded for their effort.Lazy people get fired eventually."Kachara safh hota hai". (3)Hard workers get all money. Compensation for the performers, door for the slackers. Jack Welch was the first one to intriduce this in GE. The GE stock had a record run with record profits.
RE:IT & BPO workers need to be more productive.
by Jaya Sekhar on Jul 26, 2007 06:23 AM Permalink
on the other hand there is something called a family and burnout. you seem to forget that these exist in your tirade against a sector that is defying its body clock to bring in forex
Samudraniel Dasgupta : It is very interesting that you bring up exchagne rate history before 1991. I dont know how many of you remember that time. At that time, RBI was involved in appreciating the Rupee to keep India's dollar denominated debt load managable. There was constant talk about India defaulting on its loans. Today it is just the opposite, the RBI is undervaluing the rupee. We have to ask why? When the country is stagnant, our currency depreciates and when we grow our country appreciates. This is becasue, when we grow, foreigners want to invest here, which increases the demand for rupees cause it to appreciate. It is the opposite when we are stagnant. But what exactly does the appreciating rupee mean. It means that the purchasing power of Indians is increasing. When India is growing, the productivity of the average Indian is growing. This means that an average Indian's work gives him more purchasing power in the global marketplace. This is what is reflected in the appreciating rupee! American computers, Boeing jets, crude oil etc. etc. are all cheaper. Our purchasing power is increasing, Indians are rewarded. But this will happen only when the rupee appreciates. When the RBI intervenes and undervalues the rupee, it is undervaluing the average Indian's global purchasing power. Whose side is the RBI on?
RE:Indian's purchasing power is increasing
by prashant baldev on Jul 26, 2007 02:26 AM Permalink
Man, it is simple. It is the pace at which the rupEe is rising AND the capacity of the Indian economy to absorb such an increase. An increase of 10% in 6 months!!! Dude, take it easy! Food is good for health but you need to eat it a portion day by day and not overeat. A gradual rise in the value of the rupee will be beneficial. You don't want the Indian economy to go bust, right? Already the software companies who were really instrumental in the rupee appreciation are feeling the heat. I think we need to understand this - IT IS THE PACE -- I REPEAT -- PACE -- AT WHICH THE RUPEE APPRECIATES. The RBI is controlling the pace and not the actual appreciation. It is like the police monitoring the speed at which you are driving your car and not actually controlling your car? DO YOU GET IT?
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by Natarajan Vijay on Jul 26, 2007 03:53 AM Permalink
Prashant : Nobody I know went bust after a pay raise!!! The next time your boss tells you about a 10% raise in your salary, tell him "IT IS THE PACE -- I REPEAT -- PACE -- AT WHICH MY SALARY APPRECIATES...DO YOU GET IT?"
On a serious note, RBI does need to be more transparent about exactly what the hell they are doing? What is their monetary policy? You are right Prashant in the sense that the RBI should not cause sudden distrubances in the exchange rate (If sudden changes are caused by the market itself, I dont have any problem with that). I would prefer that they announce that the rupee will free-float by a certain date and slowly allow the rupee to appreciate in this period. The aim of monetary policy should be to control inflation, not to debase your own currency!
RE:Indian's purchasing power is increasing
by Prasanna G on Jul 26, 2007 08:48 AM Permalink
Rupee apriciation is good but think about the farmer those who grow exportable commodities like coffee, tea, pepper, rubber etc....these farmers already under triet, if dolor value continue to fall these comoditiese price also falls, automatically exporters will decrease the price to make their profit level so it is not only effecting IT, exporter and it is effecting to farmars and labors too
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by Girish Kakar on Jul 26, 2007 04:42 AM Permalink
its no necessarily true that an appretiating rupee is good for the eco in every sence....today india is becoming a self sufficient nation n with a growing manufaturing sector it is necessary that exports r promoted.....n secondly the stock markets of india r going to be majorly affected if the rupee keeps appretiating.....who will invest in our country if their money fetches them rs 30???....then the rbi forex reserve of doller will lose its value.....if a person says that the govt is using our tax income as a benifit to the exporters by undervaluing the rupee then i will argure with the fact that c this as an investment by the govt rather than a loss coz dol will rise in the long run....crude prices r rising,resulting in reduced demand for crude n complimenting reduced demand for dol.....but as crude will fall,dol wil increase in value.....if dol falls in value,exports,tourism,it,etc will lose again complimenting wit a loss in employment...agreed that inflation will fall but at this stage moderate inflation is imp for our eco coz that helps in da growth of the eco.....agreed it is a good sign tht rupee is gaining value bt it should increase gradually nt like 10% in 6 months....n if rbi discloses its actions then ppl can take undue advantage of da same n the rbi loses.....US eco has come bck 2 a stable level after a panic situation of high inflation n in mid term its expected to press the paddle.....so dols will gain value in the future bt it should all be gradual not drastic
RE:Indian's purchasing power is increasing
by munish sharma on Jul 26, 2007 02:10 AM Permalink
I completely agree Vijay. One thing that I find hard to understand is why economists think that exchange rate works to the overall advantage of country's exports. IMO only thing this advantage creates is lower productivity. Exporters are happy because they can make lot of money due to depreciating rupee and buyers want it because this stuff is cheap due to currency conversions. But in the long run there is no incentive for exporting companies to do any R&D to be competitive. Overall economy loses on R&D front and in long run falls back on competitiveness. As a result these exporters keep pressing the govt to keep the value of rupee low so they do not have to work hard. They are selling their stuff because it is cheap, not because it is high quality sought after stuff. Appreciating rupee will create a need for these companies to be competitive in global market and produce things that are high on quality and create a name for India in high quality products.
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by Natarajan Vijay on Jul 26, 2007 03:56 AM Permalink
Munish, Economists do not recommend that you debase your currency. In fact, the great economist Milton Friedman, who won the nobel prize in 1976, argued against the Gold standard system of his day and in favor of a free floating exchange rate. This is what we have for the most part now.
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by munish sharma on Jul 26, 2007 08:33 AM Permalink
THey dont really agree but there is this whole bunch cribbing about setback to exports. These people are lobbying the government and by proxy RBI to promote exporters interests. Exporters want to compete on price and not on the quality. You can imagine the result this policy will have in long run.
RE:Indian's purchasing power is increasing
by N M on Jul 26, 2007 09:31 AM Permalink
You are right in way. However, considering the overall scenario, the people affected by rising rupee are not only IT companies (as assumed by many on this forum) but low class workers working in production units across India. And since they cannot export now, they need to fire these people. A rising rupee will be good when India is able to produce items/products/services which are highly advanced so that no other country is able to provide them. Then buyers have no choice but to buy from us even though the prices are higher. US/Europe are able to have high currency value because they can produce high-tech products which countries like ours have to buy from them, irrespective of the price. India's economy still requires to develop at the low end first before we can move towards highly specialised products. And that is why rising rupee may not be so beneficial, at least for the next 5-7 years. On the other hand, a short stint of rising rupee will not hurt much, considering we use this opportunity to buy foreign products at this time.
India is not poor but poorly managed country, if we thing we have to grow in the global market we have to work hard, but what's the government doing? If we simply think these political leaders earn so much, if the government take strict action against them we can put that money in development of our Nation India.
Ruppee cannot appreciate indefinitely.Market forces will come into play and it will will soon settle at current levels.It is the investment inflow which is feeding the appreciation. Significant oil/gas discovery will howeverensure that there will be further appriciation in about a year.
