RE:Bhar mein jaye india
by Amit on Apr 13, 2007 01:24 PM Permalink
The one who is saying even a single -ve point about infy, should better lick their wounds. how can u say such thing for an organization, which has provided jobs to thousands of ppl, and most of them falling under fresher category. Could you ever have imagined, how it would have had looked, if firms like Infy were not here. I understand, there might be FERA violation, there might be juniiors in company, but client is not a fool, they know what to do, and what not to do. So better not to do say anything.
RE:Bhar mein jaye india
by parameswar devi on Apr 13, 2007 01:36 PM Permalink
You seem an idiot man.Creation of jobs to thousands of people is patriotism in itself.I think u are nothing better than our politicians
Do not believe everything that is said by the politicians. Murthy is a great man. Even if you achieve 0.00001% of what he has done and the fame and glory he has brought to India, you can consider yourself as something worthwhile. Meanwhile, do not bad mouth great people, yeh shobha nahin detha...
Ya , i accept Infosys is doing good. But i know many friedns in Infy dont get benifited much. Middle Level Managemnt is very poor at Infosys. Note: Am an x-employee of Infosys and I quit because of its poor managers.
RE:Infosys Should Look at its Employees
by Dr Z on Apr 13, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
it's true everywhere yaar... I know people who quit other companies too because of poor middle management
RE:Infosys Should Look at its Employees
by rajib ---- mukherjee on Apr 13, 2007 12:35 PM Permalink
Its everywhere yaar, "PEOPLE DO NOT LEAVE BAD COMPANIES/ORGANIZATIONS, THEY LEAVE BAD MANAGERS". Me too an ex-employee of Infosys. But at least we all Indians should accept one thing, we should be proud of Infosys and N. Murthy and his team. He created an empire where many many people have flourished and gained. The brand name doesn't matter to companies who don't know about Infosys, and believe me friends, there are plenty of such big shots who haven't have heard of the top Indian Multinationals.
RE:Infosys Should Look at its Employees
by Vijay Kurhade on Apr 13, 2007 12:37 PM Permalink
I have communicated with many senior managers at client levels. There is this company in UK which dosent even want to hear few of our big IT names, they found people there so incompetent and needed sppon feeding to last level, there view on Indian talent is not so good. This is what happens when u have too many recruited quality is bound to go down
RE:Infosys Should Look at its Employees
by Gunther on Apr 13, 2007 12:47 PM Permalink
While it's likely to be true, Fact is u can't impress companies of all sizes! The fact that the bigger ones (and obvsly the ones that matter more for the IT majors) hv stuck to outsourcing over the last 10 yrs does suggest merit in the model... And for bigger clients, the Indian cos can afford higher level of quality assurance as well..
RE:Infosys Should Look at its Employees
by sadanand kamath on Apr 13, 2007 12:49 PM Permalink
I think one can not generalised on the basis of one or two clients in the UK that they do not want to hear names of our big IT names. Otherwise how one can explain the rise in the client base of major IT companies. Again in regard to middle management level staf leaving Infosys, one should go by the attrition rate. If the attrition rate is high in comparision to other IT companies, one can derive this to the poor middle management. I do not think that attrition rate in Infosys is high as compared with other major IT companies.
RE:Infosys Should Look at its Employees
by ramjee tanguturi on Apr 13, 2007 01:29 PM Permalink
Dude...
Infy is still a good company to work for. The problem is with managers and NOT with the company as such. Even I was an infoscion before; quit because of such problems and now working with Motorola Inc. I still feel proud that i was with Infy sometime.
RE:Infosys Should Look at its Employees
by abhinav srivastava on Apr 13, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
Hey Dude Infosys is still a good company to work in India,yes It is not paying well but you get a name in resume which helps you to get other good jobs in market. "Love your job don't love your company " that's what Murhty said some time back. So work for infy for some time, take name and skill and join other MNC . Cheers. Abhinaw Srivastava Australia ( x-employee of Infosys currently working in Boeing Australia)
These So called Indian MNC did well in giving jobs to thousand of ver average engineers but they can never be called world class as they are only doing the jobs od cut and paste .. They need to do a lot specially increasing there quality of talent so that they can develop something like Microsoft, Oracle, Adoble Go beyond hiring the Engineers from pathetic Engineering college and do something.. but i appreciate at least they have given jobs and platform from where we can launch ourselves
RE:Develop talent ??
by poonam yadav on Apr 13, 2007 11:59 AM Permalink
Well said Jitendra...that atleast they are providing jobs even to students from pathetic engineering colleges...talented students are their in such institutes...it's just that they are very few. And it's also true that more than 80% sit on bench and do cut & paste which is ridiculous. This way they are just spoiling the talent.
RE:Develop talent ??
by beerappa Gowda on Apr 13, 2007 12:56 PM Permalink
but with this cut and paste they are getting a decent salary to live , is it posiible to give u at least 10 persons that much salary?
RE:Develop talent ??
by ramjee tanguturi on Apr 13, 2007 01:32 PM Permalink
Whoa...80% ON BENCH...What a Joke!!!How do u know 80% are on Bench...and so u mean to say they are earning billions of dollars with just 20%...
Know what you must educate the Top management team at Infosys on how to put the remaining 80% to best use, so that they can increase their profit :-)
RE:Develop talent ??
by Les Miserables on Apr 13, 2007 12:13 PM Permalink
Before Infosys came into existence talents were used excellently.. HA HA big joke
RE:Develop talent ??
by Dr Z on Apr 13, 2007 12:12 PM Permalink
wonder what 'this talent' would be doing if infy (or other software cos) had hired for 'cut n paste' jobs... Guys understand it'll take hell of a lot of time before u can expect 'high end' work... we are a young nation and one of the youngest into technology (that also thankfully b'cos the govt did not focus on technology when it was young, else it wud hv been another colossal loss)
RE:Develop talent ??
by Gunther on Apr 13, 2007 12:50 PM Permalink
Absolutely... Last known, Indians werent designing the best airplanes/ nuc reactors / cars or were discovering multiple cures for cancer or AIDS! It's important to be patient in this industry and hope positive trends are'nt botched by politicians
RE:Develop talent ??
by Satyajit Mahapatra on Apr 13, 2007 02:22 PM Permalink
It's not true that all indian companies and their employees are doing cut and paste job. It's a very immature point of view. Many of them are doing challening work (if not creating a new product). Creating new products is definitely appreciable but along with that comes the selling the product as well. Selling a product may not appear as much honorable but ultimately a company producing product has to do it to survive. I don't know how many people are aware of Chennai based Ramco which makes a fairly good ERP package 'Marshall'. I guess they are not doing too well as it's not easy to sell your software product based in India. The other myth is that all employees of companies like Microsoft, Oracle are very talented. The fact is that they have many mediocre employees (not only based in India but ones based in their countries) and every big company require mediocre employees. So, don't cry too much on lack of talent. The market will decide what kind of talent goes where.
RE:Develop talent ??
by piyush shah on Apr 13, 2007 06:36 PM Permalink
dude, if you want to do more than cut and paste, prove your worth. If you really are talented and think you can create a rocket, well whoz stopping you? Dont crib about what you dont have. Stop and look at some of the freshers out of colleges who dont have jobs. If companies like infosys wouldnt have existed, imagine the number of people who would have been jobless. How do you want to explain this my friend ?
We all are Proud of the achievements piled up by Infy over these years. Its hard time that the futile politicians of Karnataka realize it and stop tarnishing the image of Infy's founder which seems to be their only motive and also they should stop instigating riots outside Infy campus in karnataka.
A bird only knows how to make a nest. The monkeys can only destroy it.
Shame on you rioters! since all your needs are taken care of by the government treasury from cradle to grave, you have all the time in the world to disrupt others who fend by themselves.
RE:RE:Kudos to Infosys team
by Vijaya on Apr 13, 2007 12:58 PM Permalink
infy always follows the financial mgmt first priniciple " to take care of your shareholders". Very happy with its performance & profit. i wish all the employees of Infy for doing such a great job!!once again wishing Infy Mgmt & employees for doing tremendous work.Keep it up."Always beat the market expectation." I always love to call Infy as a "Company run by professional".
Congratulations to all the infy management and staff members! You are doing India proud. I suggest you will also do well convincing your foreigner colleagues and your mentor that it is a good idea singing the national anthem while they are in India. Be a roman while in roman. Similarly, be an Indian while in India.
RE:Proud of You!
by Dr Z on Apr 13, 2007 12:15 PM Permalink
Yep, having an instrumental version of the National Anthem in the place of the vocal one is the most important problem facing the country...
RE:Proud of You!
by LAGIDU on Apr 13, 2007 12:33 PM Permalink
Doctor, it is a sentimental issue for an emotion ridden country. Even in Olympics and certain world level sports, national anthems of the countries represented by playing teams are played before the start of the game. More than the instrumental version, what drew flak was the explanation of NRN that foreigners would be embarrassed if it was sung.
RE:Proud of You!
by Gunther on Apr 13, 2007 12:44 PM Permalink
I thnk both of u (the doc and Mr.Lag) make sense... He need not have provided that explanation! In any case, I respect the gentleman for what he has provided the country with (of course for his own monetary interests, but the fact is the country is better off with him than witout him)...
RE:Eye WASH
by guy inny on Apr 13, 2007 11:24 AM Permalink
ok, if Mr. N Murthy is going to be the president so be it. What is your problem with that. Infy has given good return on investment year after year. This article is abt that and not abt the next probable president.
RE:Eye WASH
by aus ant on Apr 13, 2007 11:26 AM Permalink
Use shareholders money to adopt a town. r u nuts? That is the job of the politicians of this country. Think b4 u vote next election.
RE:Eye WASH
by Mars on Apr 13, 2007 11:36 AM Permalink
FYI, they are doing that. Mr. & Mrs Murthy are helping schools by providing them computers and othe required infrastructure. Because of Infosys lot of people are gettig jobs (direct and indirect).
Also, Mrs. Murthy has devoted herself fulltime to community service.
You may check yourself.
So, please be proud with what they doing and support them as a nation (if you are an Indian).
RE:Eye WASH
by sri on Apr 13, 2007 11:32 AM Permalink
Hello Friend, It is disgusting to see such comments made by educated person like you. I don't understand why we Indian tend to look everything I mean Literally everything with suspicious eyes. Why can't we develop broader view? Why there can't be any positive about anything in India?
Coming back to the point observed by you, did you ever ask such questions to other Indian corporates? If not then why? Did you made any study about Infy's philanthropic activities before coming conclusion? Looking at your comments it is clear that you have not checked anything and infact it seems that you are not interested to do so. Freedom of speech doesn't mean one will talk anything about anybody. I guess we need to think about it seriously. Btw, for your kind information please check following link which will give you some idea of Infy's social activities: http://www.infosys.com/infosys_foundation/rural.htm
I know after checking this people like would shout that whatever mentioned in that web site is all bogus.
RE:Eye WASH
by Subba Rao on Apr 13, 2007 12:34 PM Permalink
try to validate the point that u r writing dumbo. only dumbos can correlate a quaretely result with politics
FYI NRN is out of infosys he has taken his retirement.
Infosys has invested a lot of money in infosys foundation and they do really good work.
It is surprising that any tom, dick and harry are jealous of NRN. Infosys made profits mostly from their foreign clientele. It did not loot indian treasury as done by mayavatis, paswans and laloos. Go and ask them what they have done to the country. Even laloo's in-laws think that the railway is their private property. They have the audacity to travel without tickets in AC compartments.
Shame on you looters! YOu are the most unqualified to comment on infosys.
RE:RE:Eye WASH
by naresh gautam on Apr 13, 2007 12:34 PM Permalink
Shame on you first of all. you biased people, u r giving kudo's to NRN for just giving 4000 crore of profit. yes i appreciate it, but without bias u should think of Lalloo who has made railway 20000 crore profit company from loss making company, You peoples are always biased against low cast people, but think of this ...this country has always been ruled by upper class people we are still a developing country...or poorest country. this is because of your mindset. not because of lalloo, mayawati or any other person.
Hi Gautam, have U verified the balance sheet of the Railways for the last decade? Laloo's predecessors were spending the revenue heavily on creating new infrastructure, loco, tracks and coaches. Laloo has reduced it by half and is showing an increase in revenue. Moreover, we will have to wait until Nitish or paswan takes over from him in the next term to understand what he has really done with the railways.
