The Indian Economy Survived in last 60 years,despite 5 pay commissions.The first was set up in1946 not in 56.The 5.5 million central staff strenth has shrinked to 4.4 millin despite steep icrease in uniform forces.After 5th pay commission,the telecom employees numbering about 6 lakhs,were become bsnl,mtnl&vsnl employees.vsnl also disinvested.Railways alone has surrendered over2.2lakhs post in the last 10 years despite steep increase in frieght&passenger volumes& to its credit without fare hike in last 5 years,shown surplus of 8000 crores.so the pundits need not freightenthe readers&understand first whats ecnomy.unless upward progress in wages etc,no development can be achieved.44lakhs emploees with 3 crores sependents,andits ancillar private estb of over 2 creores are indian population.so, james can feel secured.
According to my view, government is not a source for employment nor it is an employement exchange. The primary duty of a government is to provide infrastructure and security (law and order). If these things are there, employment will be created.
It is obvious that the government or any other organisation has to take care of its employees, but one should understand no one in private will increase their overheads if its going to affect their growth. As our PM said its necessary to have a sixth pay commission, but let them implement the other aspects of the Fifth pay commission before having a new one.
Everyone deserves a better "quality" of life. NEVER be a Pay Commission only for increasing the salary. It will always be a burden on taxpayers if not all the suggestions of Pay Commission are implemented.
Pkl. Feb. 11.,20 It is an endless quest for keeping with the tide of higher emoluments, and utter lack of commitment to the ends of governance that makes these periodic hikes so villainous for the Indian Polity. Pay-commissions one every decade had hardly brought any improvement either in the efficiency or honesty of millions of state functionaries in the union ,states ,local bodies or other PSUs. Culture of functional and rational wage-structure is unfortunately out of question in this precedence bound regime of bureaucrats..D. Goel
6th pay commission is a necessity for better adjustment of social order. India is dominating the world market because of the poor salary system of our economy. Then the dividends of profit is pocketed by few So the salary system has to be an international one otherwise we will have a brain drain and the parity of poor and rich too drastic. Dharmendra
I personally feel the VIth Pay Commission is long overdue, but who is going to implement it efficiently. We have the most corrupt characters mankind can ever have in our parliament forcing others to pay a part of their salary when we have natural disasters like floods, earthquakes but choose to increase their own pecuniary benefits since they know the nations attention has been diverted to relief.
No amount of pay commissions can set the wrongs right as long as you have a bunch of anti-socials heading the country. We need men of character and will-power and even courage to lead a country like India.
I personally feel it would be better if we could make compulsory military training for all men thereby instilling a sense of discipline in men and we can also rein in and prevent some of laziness and lethargic working culture in our government offices.
I fully support appointment of new pay Commission, as the present pay allows the average govt. servant to pay for his monthly rent and ration for only 15 days. This is so b'cos of the high cost of essential commodities. The DA increase is meagre to offset the price rise. An average Call Centre employee, who is in the age group of 23-27 yrs. earns about 10K+. Whereas, a Govt. servant with more than 15yrs. service has a take home pay of Rs.10K. It is not that the Call centre employee is more educated. It is a fact that there is excess staff doing less work. But it is only in the supervisory cadre. A lot of people would have opted for VRS, if the Govt. had the lowered the criteria of 20 yrs. service to 10 yrs.
.. contd from earluier message.. So what do we do? Pinpoint responsibility, cut down the excess flab, have stringent labour laws, exclude labour law protection from government jobs and allow a hire and fire thing there. Raise salaries and demand performance. All should be aware that salary is to be earned and is not a right. Fix responsibilities on seniors for their juniors fault.. remember rules can percolate downwards and so is the will to perform. And DO anything to take the nation forward at a faster pace. Fix time for everything to enable progress at faster pace. Do whatever but don't hide behind the curtain of inefficient government workers in a plea not to raise salaries.. Remember, in private sector if the management was soft, they would have had a bitter working sector too. So all that has to be done is at the top.. and all will fall in place.. sincereity, work culture, attendence, performance..
The impact of 5th pay commisssion may have been huge. The impact of 6th pay commission may be more. But what about lakhs of Bank Employees and staff of LIC, GIC etc. For them wage revision is once in 4 years whereas for Govt. Employees it is once in 10 or 12 years. Why not stop revision for the above employees also. Govt. is indirectly shelling out money for public sector banks and insurance employees. I think there is no case where people get so much benefit for doing so little.
RE:Pay revision for Govt. Employees.
by Mohan on Jul 20, 2006 03:02 PM Permalink
1. Lets try that option too... any number of times govt employees have gone on strike, except for sewerage and garbage disposal..nothing else would create problems.
2. Why is govt doing everything every where.. even the corporations of big city like bangalore does not have accountability or budget...its just a money swindling racket. we can do with out these govt servents..
3. Does the govt employee ( getting in so many times with resevations and defence people excuse me) able to sit with his employer and fix a goal line of productivity and meet it? My foot... such things are not possible in govt offices...
4. If a private company closes ... employees are retrenched...do our govt officials have the capability to undergo such tourtures? You talk of only IT people drawing many digit salarys..but how many of them went without it for months in 2001?
Does everyone think that all the people in the government are lazy, unworking people. And such huge infrastructures of economy are running by gods grace? The railways, the postal department, the telephone, the economy of the country, the direction to the country.. they are all done by private people? To retain the best of talent in the government sector, pay commission is required, otherwise all the talented people in government service will switch over to private ones, and it will lead to a more disastereous situation. You know, an engineer working at a power plant gets a meagre 25,000 a month after 15 years of service whereas an equivalent engineer at private plant gets more than 80,000 per month. And plant of government sector is performing better than the private one.. on all parameters!! So guys wake up.. Now you will ask the engineer of the government plant to switch to private if the pays there are so good. And imagine.. all good people switching to private.. which will lead to lower performance of government plant and eventual shutdown or sale to private sector. Is that what we are looking for? Surely NOT. So what do we do? contd...
Cut out the flab, i.e. remove inefficiency from Central & State governments and make the wages linked to performance....this way at least the deserving ones can get a better pay package comparable to the Private sector.This is the only way out of all this mess...
