WHY R U WASTING ENERGY IN FOSTERING HATREAD FOR CERTAIN RELIGION,WHEN,NEED THE HOUR IS TO SPREAD PEACE ANG HARMONY BETWEEN COMMUNITIES?
WHAT U AIM TO ACHIEVE BY MALIGNING ISLAM? OK,LETS TAKE UR STAND;AND SAY THAT ISLAM IS EVIL;THEN,DO U THINK THAT EVERY MUSLIM WILL ACCEPT THAT AND DISCARD THEIR RELIGION?WOULD U DO THE SAME,IF SOMEONE SAYS UR OWN RELIGION IS EVIL?
SURELY, U R NOT MUSLIM;I SUPPOSE,U R HINDU.THEN WHY NOT PREACH VALUES LIKE TRUTH,TOLERANCE, MERCY, NON VIOLENCE,HA!
I AM SURE, ITS NOT ABOUT ANY RELIGION OR WHAT IT PREACHES,ITS JUST UR MINDLESS,VICIOUS AND OVER REACHING HATE AND CONTEMPT FOR MUSLIMS.PERIOD.
RE:TAKE A BREAK! BUDDHA
by Pradip Parekh on Aug 15, 2007 10:39 PM Permalink
when you preach truth, tolerance, non-violence and all that good stuff, islam obviously, naturally and easily stands condemned. but for you that would be rocket science, right?
RE:TAKE A BREAK! BUDDHA
by SOP on Aug 16, 2007 01:15 AM Permalink
I think Buddha is just trying to propagate answers to these question which people may have.. Also Santosh U would be the first person to read this website once there is another BOMB blast in India which is going to happen again...
DEAR INDIANS IN THE EVE OF 60TH ANNI. NOTE THAT IF YOU WISH TO LIVE SAFELY WITH YOUR FAMILIES, DO SARDARGIRI NOT GANDHIGIRI. BECAUSE IN GANDHIGIRI IT IS ALLOWED THAT, IF ANYONE KIDNAP YOUR WOMEN MERCY ON THEM. IF ANYONE KILL YOUR FAMILY MEMBER IN YOUR PRESENCE MERCY ON THEM. IF ANYONE SLAUGHER YOUR COMMUNITY ON THE BASIS OF RELIGION MERCY ON THEM. IF THEY ABUSE WOMENS AND GIRLS IN PRESENCE OF THEIR RELATIVE ON THE BASIS OF THEIR RELIGION ONLY MERCY THEM. HENCE GANDHIGIRI MEANS 6 GIRI OR H*I*J*G*I*R*I. I AM FROM THE SAME SOIL FROM WHERE GANDHI IS BUT EXCEPT HIS FAMILY MEMBERS ALL PERSONS HATE HIM DUE TO HIS.....? YOU HAVE THE ANSWER.
RE:SARDARGIRI
by Harihar Patel on Aug 16, 2007 12:37 AM Permalink
I ONLY KNOW THROUGH SARDARGIRI THAT, WHEN YOUR COUNTRY & COMMUNITY IN YOUR NEED THEN FORGET EVERYTHING AND TRY TO SAVE THEM. IF YOU BENGALIS OR ODIYAS WERE ABLE TO DO BOSHGIRI THEN YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAVE THOSE HELPLESS MILLIONS WHO WERE SLAUGHTERED IN 47 CALCUTTA RIOTS. FIRST OPEN YOUR MIND AND GO TO ANY ELDER IN YOUR BENGAL AND ASK ABOUT WHAT I SAID. OR GO TO LIBRARY. OR FINALLY GO TO YOUR NEIBHOUR BROTHER BANGLADESH AND SEE POSITION OF MINORITIES AND THEN COME TO ME TO ASK WHAT IS SARDARGIRI? IF MODIGIRI DEFENDS THE NATION THEN I WILL SURELY FOLLOW THEN YOUR BOSHGIRI. ONCE YOU NEED MODIGIRI COME TO US, WE WILL TEACH YOU HOW TO DEFEND YOUR COUNTRY.
RE:SARDARGIRI
by hardy rock on Aug 16, 2007 01:16 AM Permalink
Harihar..we all know you are guessing about the minorities of bangladesh. Hindus of bangla are much better off than muslims & christians of India. Find it with any Bangla Hindus living in Dubai/UK for the truth. Thye dont have Bal thakrey or Modis.
RE:SARDARGIRI
by anil on Aug 16, 2007 06:42 AM Permalink
hardy rock if your statement is true then why has population of banglasde reduced instead of increasing as in our country
the tuth is that globalisation is nothing but capitalistb backlash to trade unionism of 70s and 80s.It is new form of fianncial imperialism.this time led by single super power USA. earlier it was British whio used combination of money power and muscle power.muscle power now is not easy but still USA does that occassionally.We are mioving towards another era of colonial system,financial colonialism.Only style has changed.Histroy is repeating.there are many to help that in our country .our rioutine jai Chands.
THERE ARE ONLY 4 DECISIONS THAT MADE CHANGED INDIA. * BELIVING IN BLIND GANDHISM JUST LIKE NEHRU AND NOT BELIVING IN PRACTICAL WORLD LIKE SARDAR. * GIVING MERCY TO PAKIS WHEN THEY WERE AT INDIAS FEET IN 1971. * ELECTING COGRESS, LEFTS, SP, BSP ETC. AND NOT PREVENTING MAKING OF MILLIONS PARTIES AND TO DO THEIR BUSINESS POLITICS. * NOT DOING PUBLIC REVOLUTION LIKE OTHER COUNTRY'S PEOPLES HAVE DONE.
It was not the appointment of Dr Singh which initiated liberlaization process, rather it was India's 1990 economic meltdown, it's total bankruptcy and the demand from the IMF which forced her to reform her economy - IMF point-blank told India that the only way she was going to get any World Bank funds to bail her out, would be predicated on India liberalizing her economy - India had no choice but to accede to IMF's demands and initiate economic reforms, and just by coincidence, Dr Singh happened to be the Finance Minister this time. Fact is, had India's major trading partner, the Soviet Union, not collapsed and disintegrated, India would have still been following the same destructive socialist economic model with govt controlling the commanding heights of the economy, and the License and Permit Raj still running rampant, strangling and emasculating the economy and pauperizing the masses. So to Mr Dhotekar, I say 'Reforms' were voluntarily initiated - it was mandated by the World Bank as a precondtion for granting a desperate India a few measly billions loan to keep her bankrupt economy from total collapse and catastrophy.
RE:5 decisions???
by Pradip Parekh on Aug 15, 2007 10:53 PM Permalink
great observation. frankly, india has made all the wrong decisions throughtout its history of independence. the simple truth is india's luck turned. eg, hitler was the no. 1 reason for india's independence because he blew the british might to smithreens. india gained its economic freedom because the imf's hard squeeze when ussr was coming unravelled; economic liberalization was forced upon india and people were clearly scared as hell at what it might portend. about the only factor that gave india some confidence was the tremendous success of the nris in usa.
a country that starts out with a gandhi-imposed commie nehru for pm, a maulana for education minister never got it on the right track from day one, and never had a chance to get it right. so, it's luck, and time to admit god is hindu.
RE:5 decisions???
by ROMESH KUMAR on Aug 16, 2007 01:18 AM Permalink
Many many thanks Mr Parekh.It is much more than truth and reality that british were not going to set India free under pressure from either,be it armed struggle or unarmed struggle and their leaders respectively.Of course many people have made super and supreme sacrifices depending upon the circumstances which can neither be ignored nor undervalued.It definitely has made positive contribution.Hitler had broken the military might thereby opressive might followed by morale of british govt,british forces and british public as well.They had experienced and tasted death and destruction (like Uncle Sam did on and after 9/11).On the other hand a new world scenario had emerged.Now also Soviet monster was roaming freely at their court yard who had pushed Hitler back to his bunkers and ultimate destination.In other words this monster had rescued them from another monster,Hitler.In this scenario another monster Uncle Sam was already in race for superemacy in Europe and world.As such british monster was struggling looking here and there for her own survival as a nation.So they were left with no choice and option but to leave South Asia to her own fate which they did. JAI HIND.
Scenario after that is the story of three monsters,A,B & C. A & B helped C for one reason or another unwillingly as a policy matter.A succeeded in killing B with the help of C. Now C being foolish & spoiled child of both A & B went out of hands and challanged A. A-US B-USSR C-ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISM. JAI HIND.
RE:5 decisions???
by Prof R K Gupta-India on Aug 15, 2007 10:49 PM Permalink
That is right.i just posted reply but it seems to have been taken off.It was Uruguy round,bankruptcy and washington consensus that made india head for so called half hearted reforms.WE were already sunk thanks to all these big experts and economists.Where were they before 1990? Only USA told us how to come out of mess like to many other countries.Wohi dubate hein wohi terna bhi sikhate hein.Hum toa bus haath paanv chalete hein.Dimag nahi.
The basic idea is that caste and regional politics have prevented India from being what it can. If we really hate the caste system we should have completely banned it- ie. make it illegal to mention and/or refer to your own or anothers caste. Then you could make reservations/quotas based on a fair criteria like financial background. I know this sounds extreme and is likely impossible. But without eliminating any remnants of caste we will fail as a society. Everyone will try to get their caste to have more 'quotas' and merit will not be rewarded.
RE:What we did wrong.....
by Kumar Diwakar on Aug 15, 2007 10:29 PM Permalink
Has anyone read the news came in Indian Express about a dalit murdered in Allahabad. The only crime he committed is that he dared to clear engineering test and he was first to do that.. Even that could not be tolerated by these castist people..
When I started to read this article I was expecting some very objective points of presentation. However it seems we continue to prove the joke about Indians right- One Indian Philosopher, two Indians Discussion, three Indians%u2026 TOTAL CONFUSION%u2026 anyway let me put my reading and findings on this%u2026.
In my opinion the 5 decisions that changed India are :
1. Appointment of Dr Manmohan Singh as the Finance Minister in 1991. This initiated Liberalisation, Privatisation & Globalisation.
2. Setting up of C-DOT : Today's telecom infrastructure has its roots in that decision.
3. Bangladesh War : Our neigbour still troubles us because they want to avenge that courageous and capable action that we took.
4. Political intervention in Judiciary in 1974 : Superseding 8 Judges to appoint a Junior as Chief Justice of India ushered in Judicial non performance. Today common man doesnt trust Judiciary.
5. The marching orders to MNCs in 1977 : The companies today we invite are the companies we sent out in 1977.
My note was longer, but I cut it short. Its always going to be a difference of opinion. But these are my views. Feel free to write back to me with your views at alokdhotekar@rediffmail.com. If I have erred I would like to know.
Sadly there is something got to do with individual decision making too which has messed the sum total. If only each one could each dedicate to contribute 1 % extra per day, INDIA would have been a Super Power a decade ago.
RE:5 decisions that changed Indian
by Prof R K Gupta-India on Aug 15, 2007 10:13 PM Permalink
sorry brother, this seniority and permanency concept must go after junior class I post.crimionals, misbehaved,unproductive and idiots cant be ptoomoted.are we to pay award for an idiot an dcorrupt staying more with us?what a lughable idea.best should be picked and see how corruption vanished from india.Dande lagao inke.
RE:5 decisions that changed Indian
by ALOK DHOTEKAR on Aug 15, 2007 11:34 PM Permalink
Sir,
It seems you are not aware of the whole Ajit Nath Ray episode. Please appraise yourself of it and your will get to the depth of what I was referring to
Of all good that Mrs Indira Gandhi did, She messed up by corrupting the Judiciary.
RE:5 decisions that changed Indian
by vasu_erfolg on Aug 15, 2007 10:23 PM Permalink
Together with these "positive" decisions, we should also remember some negative decisions that cost us dearly - (1) the decision to stop the military action in Kashmir in 1947 (of driving the paki tribals out) and referring the dispute to the UN (2) the decision to antagonize China and subsequently ignore the real threat of an invasion - largely due to Krishna Menon's incompetence and Nehru's complicity with his incompetence - that eventually led to the chinese war; (3) the decision to extend the caste-based reservation decade after decade; (4) the Shah-Bano case and the subsequent surrender to the muslims by making constitutional changes for appeasing the muslims; (5) the decision to free the three dreaded terrorists in exchange for the 150-odd passengers held hostage in Khandahar, on that fateful day in tJan. 2000. These are just samples - the lack of political will to implement several useful and sensible recommendations by various commissions would sum up to a colossal "missed opportunity" list by our politicians.
RE:RE:5 decisions that changed Indian
by ALOK DHOTEKAR on Aug 15, 2007 11:37 PM Permalink
Well all these episodes have bearing somewhere else. Hence none you mentioned is at core...
e.g. Kashmir is not merely the 1947 episode... or the appeasement of Muslims... or the exchange at Khandahar... they are all secondaries..
