I know economic liberalization was one of the most important events in the history of India. But to give credit to Narsimha Rao and Manmohan Singh for it is similar to lying to the masses and living in the mode of denial. Let us not forget that India became a bankrupt country during VP Singh and Chandresekhar government. We did not have enough foreign exchange to buy oil whose importance is needless to be repeated. As a result we had no option but to go to the World Bank and IMF. These foreigners twisted our hand to implement the economic liberalization. It was not as if Rao and Singh were fed up with the License Raj and Permit Raj and wanted to free the Indian industries from the evil clutches of the government. Economic liberalization was thrust upon the Indians by the outsiders. I know it was a great thing for everybody (and in the process and because of liberalization we now ask right questions) but to give credit to Rao and Singh is stretching it too far. Let the youths of India be aware of this fact.
Personally I am all for economic liberalization. I even want that education sector be freed from the government control so that the Indian youth gets what they deserve. I hope you all agree.
RE:Economic liberalization
by Sreekanth Nemani on Aug 16, 2007 02:15 AM Permalink
My dear fellow the IMF and world bank were armtwisting for decades. It is the vision and bravery of Rao and Singh that let economic liberalization happen. From 1991 to 1996 most people even within the congress were against it. In fact when Deve Gowda became prime minister in 1997, most of the policies were regressive.
Manmohan Singh tendered hs resignation to Rao atleast 3 times because of the opposition within congress. Each time Rao would solve the issues. The Importance of Narasimha Rao has always been glossed over in indian conciousness, which is very unfortunate.
RE:Economic liberalization
by RajKumar SIngh on Aug 16, 2007 02:20 AM Permalink
The IMF and World Bank were arm twisting us for decade and in spite of that the Indian government didn't succumbed to them was because India had that HUGE SOCIALIST pride. But when we became BANKRUPT all our SOCIALIST pride evaporated in thin air and we realized where we were standing.
RE:Economic liberalization
by anil on Aug 16, 2007 06:35 AM Permalink
in india only one family matter the rest are useless fellows as per the congress it seem only nehru - gandhi family sacrificied nobody else can sacrifice for india that is what will be taught in schools from next year i think
At the moment the best Consitution in the whole world is of USA.
It has 3 branches
These are called the Legislative, the Executive, and the Judiciary.
1) Politcians are Legislative who design laws. 2) the Executive is the President who exercise the laws and are the implementers. 3) The Judiciary are the Courts with judges who interpret the law when disput arises.
What's special about USA is that all the important positions do not have absolute power and they each other keep a watch on it. Also a single PERSON CANNOT OCCUPY ANY IMPORTANT POST OF POWER FOR A LONG TIME.
That's it the last sentence I made above is the most significant for Indian Democracy.. JUST LOOK AT DOORDARSH AND LOOK AT YOU POLITICIANS. THEY LOOK LIKE THEY WILL POPUP AND DIE ANYTIME IF STUMBLED FROM STAIRS.
People become corrupt if they are legally allowed to occupy the importnat post of power in democracy.. SO TO COMBAT CORRUPTION WE WILL HAVE TO DEMAND A CHANGE TO THE CONSTITUTION.
Just imagine if the Police Commissioner is elected by the people for 2 terms than he cannot be transferred. Then HE CAN GO AFTER THE CORRUPT POLITICIANS. They EVERYTIME A SEZ LAW OR ANY law is made the Police can act on behalf of the people. If this happens all other things will start following to their correct places.. PLEASE PLEASE SPREAD THIS MESSAGE TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.. THANK YOU...
THE SIXTH AND THE BIGGEST DECISION IS TO KILL CORRUPTION AND CORRUPTED POLITICIANS. CORRUPTION IN ALL WALKS OF LIFE SHOULD BE KILLED FROM ROOTS. I KNOW IT IS A TOUGH AND BIG TASK. BUT THE TASK CAN BE ACHIEVED WITH ALL PEOPLE COMING TO GETHER WITH CONFIDENCE TO FIGHT AGAINST THE ROTTEN SYSTEM WHICH IS PREVAILING IN THE SOCIETY. IF THE CORRUPTION IS CURBED THEN INDIA IS THE REAL SUPER POWER IN WORLD. THE CORRUPTION FROM THE POLITICIANS IS THE ONE WHICH IS HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY BECAUSE THEY USE THE GOVERNMENTS SYSTEM FOR THEIR OWN BENEFIT. THAT IS WHY THE CORRUPTION IS BREWED INTO VARIOUS SYSTEMS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. SO PEOPLE PLEASE COME TOGETHER AS IT WAS DONE IN THE JESSICA LAL CASE. AS IT WAS DONE IN THE RANG DE BASANTIS PILOT CASE. WE HAVE SO MANY INCIDENTS THAT HELPED OR GET THE CORRUPTION OUT OF THE SYSTEM. COME ON PEOPLE LET US START IT WITH A SMALL THING, WHICH CAN BECOME A BIG CHANGE.
RE:THE SIXTH AND THE BIGGEST DECISION IS TO KILL CORRUPTION AND CORRUPTED POLITICIANS
by QandA on Aug 16, 2007 02:05 AM Permalink
We need solutions and not get Emotional.. Would be helpful if U talk about solutions, I am sick and tired about discussing the problems...
RE:THE SIXTH AND THE BIGGEST DECISION IS TO KILL CORRUPTION AND CORRUPTED POLITICIANS
by Bhupinder Singh on Aug 16, 2007 07:06 AM Permalink
absulutely we need solution not discussion,,
RE:THE SIXTH AND THE BIGGEST DECISION IS TO KILL CORRUPTION AND CORRUPTED POLITICIANS
by Ashok Bhatia on Aug 16, 2007 01:46 AM Permalink
It is much easier to read small letters than CAPITAL letters on a laptop.
a) Prime Minister should be elected by people not appointed by dumwit politicians....
b) Chief Minister/Prime Minister post should be allowed only to be occupied by the same person only for 2 times not like Jyoti Basu for 40 yrs
c) Police commissioner should be elected by people and not appointed by any dumbwits..
d) Person standing for election should only represent his consituency and not stand for elections from remote places where people don't know him/her
e) India should adtop strict rules to interpret laws alternate local languages and fund special institutions so that HINGLIGH laws can be understood by ordinary masses..
There A HUGE GAP BETWEEN Consitution that interprets DEMOCRACY and the real world democracy. People are not understanding it 'Cos of communication problem 'Cos its in English..
Even for the so called educated people it's impossible to interpret/understand legal English. So there is no proper way to understand and hence change all BRITISH TIME old laws... The result is that INDIA is a HOJ POJ of loosely coupled states with NO COMMON ETHOS OR A THOUGHT STRUCTURE.. Until the infrastructure to PROVIDE JUSTICE is not fixed DEMOCRACY CANNOT BE IMPLEMENTED AS WRITTEN IN THE CONSTITUTION.
IF ONE CANNOT DE-ELECT THE CORRUPT POLITICIANS THEN THE SYSTEM HAS TO BE SUCH THAT THAT PERSON CANNOT SURVIVE IN THE SYSTEM FOR A LONG TIME.. This is THE ONLY SOLUTION AND RECEIPE FOR SUCCESS...
RE:To all HINGLISH LEARNED MORONS OF INDIA
by QandA on Aug 16, 2007 01:30 AM Permalink
Remember society is created by the rich. The Middle class and poor people just follow it. So IF RICH PEOPLE don't change the LEGAL INFRASTRUCTURE OF THIS COUNTRY NOTRHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. Take the Urban Land Ceiling Act or the Right of way Act. Take the pricing of Sugar canes or take any issue. Unless there is interactive way to change laws THIS COUNTRY IS NEVER EVER GOING TO PROGRESS...
I think there is a lot of misunderstanding about 1971 war. This is the war which has created more problems for us than any of the other problems combined. Firstly, we made permanent enemies of pakistan and even Bangladesh. Pakistan started supporting the separatist movement in Kashmir (terrorism) after 1975. And about 160000 or 100,000 Bangladeshi refugees, we already have them in our country. They are all here doing the lowly chores, terrorist attacks and also increasing our daily crime rates. Every year the govt finds them and packs them off to bangladesh free of cost and they enjoy their trip home and jump back over the border to create problems for our people. For the newest attacks in hyderabad and other places, Bangladeshi links have been established.... there is no way to identify these people because no records exist and once they come to the cities they call themselves Bengalis!!!! A weak admin in bangladesh is definitely harming us.
RE:1971 war
by Abbas Rumani on Aug 16, 2007 07:44 AM Permalink
Deepika You said 1971 war created more problem for us.we made permanent enemies of Pakistan and even Bangladesh(East Pakistan). If it is so. than why did we had 1948 and 1965 wars? Do you know when Kashmir problem started? Within in one month of OUr independance. So to say we created enemy from 1971 is completely wrong. Pakistan issue is there since independance.
There is no denying the fact that INDIA suffered due to Bangladesh War.
Here we are talking of 5 decisions that changed India.... hence the mention of Bangladesh War.
You are right in pointing that it had done us a lot of harm... but the act had to be done... there could have been problems of different sort if it had not been handled this way.
But its not Bangladesh War this is subject matter of this discussion..
RE:1971 war
by Sandeep on Aug 16, 2007 02:50 AM Permalink
Made permanent enemies of Pakistan after 1971? Can you tell which times before that Pakistan was friend? Also there were millions of people from Bangladesh running to India before 1971 supporting which had become a major problem and beyond resources of India. BTW, this forced migration was one of the reasons of the war. Please study some more on this war and you will know. Had Bangladesh not been created, there would have been much more problems like terrorism on both sides of India, huge immigration attempts from Bangladesh etc..
RE:1971 war
by Ashok Bhatia on Aug 16, 2007 02:56 AM Permalink
If you spend huge fortune and find another enemy in the bargain what is there to be brgged about?
RE:1971 war
by Sandeep on Aug 16, 2007 03:32 AM Permalink
It is a trade-off. You probably think East Pakistan would have been more friendly which is highly unlikely. India would have been probably much worse off. Bangladesh has no axe to grind with India whereas Pak does(Kashmir).
Pakistan did not become a permanent enemy after the bangladesh war! they were already a permanent enemy. Are you forgetting 1964 and 1947? If anything the 1971 war weakened pakistan to the extent that India could focus on its economy.
Bangldesh has become an enemy only now, due to rising islamic fundamentalism. We were good friends throughout the 70's and 80's. Times change, it is time we treated bangladesh accordingly.
Do you know the '100,000' and '10,00,000'? we had 10million refugees come to india in a period of 9 months in 1971 !! What makes you think india was capable of hadling that?? More importantly about 1 million people were brutally murdered in bangladesh in the same time. That means at a faster rate that even hitler!! How can you condone staying quiet??!! It was probably one of the few genuine decisions taken to go to war.
RE:1971 war
by Ashok Bhatia on Aug 16, 2007 02:27 AM Permalink
Bangladesh became Indi's enemy in no time. Sk. Mujibar Rahman was killed on Aug 15 soon after liberation. West Bengal Assam NE etc became very very poor.
According to me Nothing is changed in india and india has no capacity to take any decision which drastically changes anything.. Only drastic (and good) change was braught to india was by Indira gandhi by declaring Emergency as in india democracy is failure...
RE:Changes in India...
by Sandeep Kumar on Aug 16, 2007 12:45 AM Permalink | Hide message
if democracy is a failure in india, you would have not written this statement.
RE:Changes in India...
by sunil Rawat on Aug 16, 2007 01:18 AM Permalink
mr. confused ! to realize the changes you need to go out of it. May be you should be sent to Iran/S. Arabia and you will then notice the significant changes. Seriously !
RE:Changes in India...
by Ramasubramaniam Iyer on Aug 16, 2007 02:08 AM Permalink
My dear friend You would not dare to spit on roads in Singapore/Malaysia. You can pass your bowels on Road in India and the others will turn a blind eye. What more freedom do you need my friend. We Indians talk about our rights and not understanding our duty to keep our country clean
Indira Gandhi is seen in lot of negative light but she did on thing very positive. She brought television to India that changed everything. TV is directly responsible for all the growth and consumerism
RE:Television
by Seenu Subbu on Aug 16, 2007 12:39 AM Permalink
Indira Gandhi brought television to India? Good joke. Like Rajiv Gandhi brought computer and telephone to India. World had these "Amenities" for decades earlier to this, Congress did not want an enlightened public to decide their political fate, and hence delayed the inevitable liberalization. No thanks to anybody for giving us tissue papers to wipe, you know?
And oh, the Bangladesh liberation was good for the first two years. Bangla roaches have been more a pain in the rear than the Paki scums since then.
RE:Make India Proud, Act Now ... Even God Helps Only Those Who Help Themselves
by Pradip Parekh on Aug 15, 2007 11:51 PM Permalink
yu say: "we can achieve anything we desire". most indians desire to reduce population growth of the minorities. shouldn't you too?
RE:Make India Proud, Act Now ... Even God Helps Only Those Who Help Themselves
by Mukesh on Aug 16, 2007 12:50 AM Permalink
do you support those minorities who are making children at full scale, for the sole purpose of increasing their % in country, even if it brings only problems to entire country. More important thing, you responded like an as**ole to a very good post. No wonder you are a pakistani. Go try to find who your actual father is.
