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Things to do: VOTE, VOTE, VOTE!
by Observer Observer on Aug 15, 2007 06:21 PM  Permalink 



Friends, we, the young, educated and enlightened section of this country have to accept the responsibility of taking out our country from the clutches of miopic, greedy and unethical politicians. There are many evils in our society, however, the source of the greatest strength is still available to us. Despite it's shortcomings, the right to elect our representative is alive and kicking in this country. We MUST, SIMPLY MUST take advantage of this opportunity and ensure that incompetent people do not get a chance to rule us.

The glaring example is Arjun Singh, an epitome of "greedy to the core" mentality. How is it possible that this man was voted to be a minister? It would not have been possible had we judiciously used our franchise. We need to look back at such evidences and figure out a methodology to eliminate these mistakes in future.

I appeal to the educated masses of India, Voting is not only your democratic right, IT IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL.

Not voting should be treated as a crime. It should be considered as Socially taboo and disrespectful. Only then our "happy-go-lucky" gen-x youth will take it seriously.


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next 5 important decisions
by Navneet on Aug 15, 2007 06:19 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Instead of multy party democracy, cahnge into a 2 or at best three party democracy. This can be chieved by having two round of elctions. Let the first 2 or 3 party again particiapte elctions and then the winner takes over
2. Ban communists. Ban spreding of communism. Its cancer. Put people who propogate communism into jail or hang them.
3. Spread the tax net wide.Everybody should pay tax. As the cliche goes, tax and death are inevitable.
4. Make a common syllabus across the country and english is the only medium of instruction. Spread english. spread prosperity. Slowly phase other indian languages out./
5. Deal with issues like terrorism, disease, corruption in a very tuff hand. Declare war on terrorism. Phase the terrosits out or supporters of terrosits out. Period.

6. execution equals strategy. Enforce executions.

7. Liberalise, Privatise, Globalise



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RE:next 5 important decisions
by abhishek chauhan on Aug 15, 2007 07:20 PM  Permalink
gr8 points...Kudos...

do 2nd one first...!..

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5 decisions thatchanged India
by prabhakar pandit on Aug 15, 2007 06:01 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Instead of five decions we must list the five blunders our leaders committed and the first one is to reject the suggestion to make matriculation as prerequisite for voting right in elections.This was Pt.Nehru's first blunder.

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RE:5 decisions thatchanged India
by s k mutreja on Aug 15, 2007 06:18 PM  Permalink
Panditji (I am referring to Mr Pravhakar)How many Indians were matriculates during the times of Pandit Nehru and for that matter how many matriculates even now. This is one forum where anyone can express anything and so have you. Do you think that the poor people in the villages and most far off places have chosen to be non-matriculates only because they are allow to vote without being a matriculate. Kya Baat karte hai pandditji !

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RE:5 decisions thatchanged India
by Chilla Mat on Aug 15, 2007 07:04 PM  Permalink
Nehru was right..Being 60% illiteracy how come only 40 % people should have been decided the fate of country THEN..And for that matter Even today the voting is approx 50%-60%. Most of the time so called educated ppl are always busy. They all dont vote all the time. With that rate only 20% literate people might have had decided the fate of country THEN... So only few controlling people would have run country. Other form of dictatorship...isnt it..?? and Dont forget the same Nehru Started all IITS..which is biggest boon for Technology after independance ....Of course I do have some different opinion about Nehrus other decisions, but not this one pal..

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RE:5 decisions thatchanged India
by Prof R K Gupta-India on Aug 15, 2007 10:39 PM  Permalink
abhi kitne vote dete ho bhai?45% se 50% naa.Toa?kya farak para? WE educated idiots dont caste votes.that is why these idiots come in power.And what can i do when i vote I have to accept one candidate out of all socundrels if at all.I cant even say no .Reject all and renominate.this single arrangement can take shit out of our polticial parties .raja bhaiya will disappear

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Due credit to Rajiv Ghandhi
by Top Cat on Aug 15, 2007 05:57 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I thing it is time to acknowledge Rajive Ghandhi this time. It was his vision which turned around the country and to Narashimha Rao and Manmohan Singh for taking it forward. Rest of the people imporvised and implemented what these people started.

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RE:Due credit to Rajiv Ghandhi
by s k mutreja on Aug 15, 2007 06:19 PM  Permalink
I think we are unaware that even today a majority of the people sleep without two dquare meals everyday what to talk about improvisation.

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RE:RE:Due credit to Rajiv Ghandhi
by Chilla Mat on Aug 15, 2007 07:08 PM  Permalink
Not majority ...It says in Artical the poverty level has came down...And for that matter...poors are always there even in RamRaaj or before British too..Poverty has other reasons too...Mere charity wouldnt help to eradicate poverty...Rajiv was visionary..He introduced IT in India...remember Janata raaj they throwned off IMB,Coke then in seventies outta India...very bad decision..and they were also so succesful to make a propoganda that computers will take jobs away from people THEN.....what a blunder...We probably would have got better prospority a decade before...anyways better late than NEVer...

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RE:Due credit to Rajiv Ghandhi
by abhishek chauhan on Aug 15, 2007 07:23 PM  Permalink
Rajiv...!.

what r u talking about...

not a tenth of penny has done for this country..

He was a Gandhi...n gud looking 2...

Rest is all very subjective,..

hey he is no where...

THAT"S ALL

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Things to do: VOTE, VOTE, VOTE !
by Observer Observer on Aug 15, 2007 05:44 PM  Permalink 

Friends, we, the young, educated and enlightened section of this country have to accept the responsibility of taking out our country from the clutches of miopic, greedy and unethical politicians. There are many evils in our society, however, the source of the greatest strength is still available to us. Despite it's shortcomings, the right to elect our representative is alive and kicking in this country. We MUST, SIMPLY MUST take advantage of this opportunity and ensure that incompetent people do not get a chance to rule us.

The glaring example is Arjun Singh, an epitome of "greedy to the core" mentality. How is it possible that this man was voted to be a minister? It would not have been possible had we judiciously used our franchise. We need to look back at such evidences and figure out a methodology to eliminate these mistakes in future.

I appeal to the educated masses of India, Voting is not only your democratic right, IT IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL.

Not voting should be treated as a crime. It should be considered as Socially taboo and disrespectful. Only then our "happy-go-lucky" gen-x youth will take it seriously.

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THREE FAMOUS QUOTATIONS
by Parthaananda Subho on Aug 15, 2007 05:28 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies


JAI HIND

DELHI CHALO (MARCH TO DELHI)

AND

GIVE BE BLOOD, AND I WILL GIVE YOU FREEDOM
BY: NETAJI SUBHAS CHANDRA BOSE

CAN ANY OF US EXPLAIN, THEN WHY WE NEVER UTTER THE NAME OF NETAJI SUBHAS CHANDRA BOSE SINCE 1947???



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RE:THREE FAMOUS QUOTATIONS
by A K on Aug 15, 2007 06:11 PM  Permalink
What did he do apart from the three quotes you mention?

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RE:THREE FAMOUS QUOTATIONS
by abhishek chauhan on Aug 15, 2007 07:27 PM  Permalink


Ur basic knowledge is so very poor...!...

U might be just out from Dense forests of SATPUDA...after 250 years,..

moron...!

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RE:THREE FAMOUS QUOTATIONS
by balasore chemicals on Aug 15, 2007 06:54 PM  Permalink
Hey A. K., are you an educated man? I doubt. May be you are kid to ask such a question. Bloody fool. Go suck your mothers thumb.

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RE:THREE FAMOUS QUOTATIONS
by Mohammed on Aug 15, 2007 06:44 PM  Permalink
The practical reason behind Britishers to leave India was purely Economic. India was no more a wealth creating machine. All the disturbances came from WW2, Subhash Chnadra Bose Nationa Army, Internal SatyaGraha and of course from the so called terrorist(Indian Freedom Fighters, as per britishers were terrorist).

Then what do you, India got freedom from? Just by striping ones cloth?????

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RE:THREE FAMOUS QUOTATIONS
by Parthaananda Subho on Aug 15, 2007 06:22 PM  Permalink

THIS IS THE POINT, EVEN YOU PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY!!! WITHOUT ARMED REVOLUTION OF INDIAN NATIONAL ARMY LEAD BY NETAJI SUBHAS CHANDRA BOSE FOLLOWED BY NAVAL MUTINY IN 1946 AT BOMBAY, THERE WAS NO CHANCE FOR INDIA'S FREEDOM TILL DATE. READ ANY AUTHENTIC HISTORY BOOK.

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RE:RE:THREE FAMOUS QUOTATIONS
by Chilla Mat on Aug 15, 2007 06:52 PM  Permalink
Parthaananda I respect Netaji Bose..Azad Hind Sena sure helped India ..Becoz after Independance we already had a trained Military force(Thanks to both world Wars and Subhashchandra Bose )....But studies suggest that allying with japanese and hitler would have been biggest blunder of Indian History. British were better than Japs..Looks at the countries Japenese attacked and Won during World War 2..and they were already in Burma..Thank god other Congress members were against Netaji THEN (On that issue)...Japanese Army was THEN very cruel,Read history of vietenam,thailand and all other south east countries...Also China-Japan War....Netaji sure was indeed great freedom fighter...but "Visionary " ..? I have doubts...and no offence all bengalis..I love u guys ;) I just wrote this from history point of view...

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RE:RE:RE:THREE FAMOUS QUOTATIONS
by abhishek chauhan on Aug 15, 2007 07:29 PM  Permalink


Chilla..!..

pl tell a single name who was greater visionary..?????....Ghandhi/Nehru r out of bounds

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RE:THREE FAMOUS QUOTATIONS
by rupesh kashinath rajput on Aug 15, 2007 07:13 PM  Permalink
rightly said. The gandhis who ruled india after independance. Have systematically supressed his name.

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RE:THREE FAMOUS QUOTATIONS
by Irfaan Khan on Aug 15, 2007 05:43 PM  Permalink
Simple because he was not from Nehru family ;)

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RE:THREE FAMOUS QUOTATIONS
by Mohammed on Aug 15, 2007 05:44 PM  Permalink
Because Cowards never want to mention Brave.

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RE:THREE FAMOUS QUOTATIONS
by chinnu on Aug 15, 2007 06:03 PM  Permalink
beacuse NEHRU (with help of gandhi) formed a fOundation for his family, rest of the people (indira, rajiv , sonia..RAHUL) building , even it is shame on CPI(M) that they r also ignoring their own Bengali (NETAJI subash chandra bose) and supporting the foundation laid by nehru..
i dont how long they will rule INDIA.

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Five decisions that changed India
by my message on Aug 15, 2007 04:27 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The first point itself is so wrong. Adult franchise is so much misused in India that we find so many wrong people leading the country. Along with adult franchise, there was a need to have some kind of criteria for people to get elected. That is missing.

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RE:Five decisions that changed India
by Ramachandran venkatesh on Aug 15, 2007 05:29 PM  Permalink
I do not agree with you statement that adult franchise is wrong. Consider the unscruplousness of our politicians. If the poorest and weakest sections of the society did not have the right to vote they would have been crushed openly in manner worse than what any dictator has done.
This problem could have been solved if our constitution had been written with emphasis on protection of individual rights.
Our constitution tried to created a strong central government that was elected by the masses. This government was given power to interfere in every aspect of life in the country. Such a system will ultimately lead to mob rule.
India needed a constitution that provided a government whose powers were most limited and cutailed. Through a series of checks and counter checks (through institutions like judiciary, election commission, parliament etc) it should have been ensured that no government institution could act arbitrarily.
The procedure for ammending the constitution should have been far more difficult. Any mention of religion, caste in any government procedure or office should have been strictly prohibited.
The profile of a government servant should have been as one who earned the maximum in society but whose powers were most limited. Today the profile is exactly the opposite. The result -INDIAN CORRUPTION

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RE:Five decisions that changed India
by Abhay T on Aug 15, 2007 05:04 PM  Permalink
Think about it. Its not about education. How do you know who is a right or wrong person? There are millions of educated people doing wrong things and tens of millions uneducated people doing right thing. A country can't peogress without human equality. If the control was given to only 10% educated people, this country would have becmome a much messier state than Pakistan. India didn't have common language, religion. It was plagued by castism, poverty, illiteracy. Without human equality country wouldn't have progressed. So, adult franchise was the RIGHT decision. Political leaders reflect the society they represent. Social changes requires much longer time than you think. So, the progress is always slow. When people talk about Japan, they forget the state of India in 1947. It is easier to construct new bridges and buildings but bridge the gap between different communities it takes much longer.

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Didn't we forget some thing
by saurabh kaul on Aug 15, 2007 02:49 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Are we not forgetting what Rajiv Gandhi took as an initiative for Telecom Revolution, Computer Revolution, Panchyati Raj, Operation Flood, Bofors etc, because of which India is where it is today, premiers in IT and ITES. And you think there were only 5 of them.

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RE:Didn't we forget some thing
by Abhay T on Aug 15, 2007 04:45 PM  Permalink
Honestly speaking I am not sure about Rajiv Gandhi's telecom and Computer revolution without liberalising economy and giving away the license raj. Allowing some IT companies didn't make much change to the life of India. To me, it was more like a blind stroke. It only created more body shoopers in the country. When DOTCOM was burst, suddenly many companies found themselves nowhere. The real master stroke was economic liberalisation. This allowed MNCs to pump money in India. They wanted to save money using cheaper labour and there was an IT revolution in India. IT revolution is still in phase 1. India's IT contribution is still insignifican although it is a BPO king.
I think Rajiv Gandhi was the worst political leader in India. He won with record breaking (3/4th) majority. If he was as strong as her mother he could have rewritten the history. He talked about vision, but there were no strong steps. With no opposition, he could have kicked economy with massive infrastructure projects like what China is in last decade. He unnecessarily provoked Hindus by turning SC orders in Shahabano case and then tried to woe Hindus by opening Ram Mandir. He had little clue that he was opening Pandora's box. As a whole I consider him as a complete failure.

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RE:Didn't we forget some thing
by Chilla Mat on Aug 15, 2007 07:17 PM  Permalink
Abhay ..Do you what Janata raaj did in Seventies when they got Power..(They threw off IMB,Coke and were so hostile with foreign technology as well as companies)...Sirf Swadeshi Swadeshi karne se kyaa hota..?? Rajiv sure did few good things ..And yeah He openly embraced IT,Telecom sectors THEN...Its absurd not to acknodlege and say that he was worst leader etc..He is the one who initiated, and exposed Indian Spy racket ..and that to within after few weeks becoming PM....Its very natural if you dislike someone, we happen to forget good deeds...and yeah public memory is always short...I do have strong opposition with some congress leaders but Rajiv was not worst political leader... he didnt even want to be leader...Its people who made him then why blame him now...?

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RE:RE:Didn't we forget some thing
by Abhay T on Aug 15, 2007 07:43 PM  Permalink
he worst leader in the sense he only gave his 10% whereas 100% was required from a PM with support of 400 MPs. If he had taken real steps like what you are talking about, India would have been far ahead of China. Mere IT industry was nothing but a body shopping industry. There was too much of hesitation and he hardly understood the overall picture. If he had taken stronger steps in 80s the situation of 90s wouldn't have happened. 1. India wouldn't have become so bankrupt that Mr. Chandrashekhar had to airlift GOLD in british custody overnight.
If he had slightest clue of home misnistry, the Ayodhya issue wouldn't have become so big. I just fail to understand on what logic some people give him credit. Just because he allowed some MNC companies to set up here. he had the power uproot corruption. He failed there as well. He was only aquitted in Bofors case on technical ground after his death because he was no longer in position to defend himself.

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RE:RE:Didn't we forget some thing
by Desi Balak on Aug 15, 2007 05:42 PM  Permalink
Its naive and absurd to say that liberalisation was "master stroke".
Whether one agrees or not the fact remains that all earlier policies of state control etc. have contributed to get India to this level.

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RE:Didn't we forget some thing
by Desi Balak on Aug 15, 2007 05:17 PM  Permalink
I agree.India needs to pay due tribute Late Rajiv Gandhi.All the progress in IT that we have today is due to his vision.May his soul rest in peace.

If Rajv Gandhi was alive today,we would have been much better.



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RE:RE:Didn't we forget some thing
by satya pal on Aug 15, 2007 06:37 PM  Permalink
it was bad luck that we followed principles of democracy,with out ensuring who is qualified to vote.nehru worked to make his family as waris of this countery.gandhi ji completely ignored his family.you know all this.who says we are free.we are ruled by nehru family.worst happened,when bhartia janta party took over.their performance was also not appreciated by countrymen.in fighting and corruption prevaled during their regime.this time people may reject UPA RULE.PEOPLE want corruption free society.nothing is being done on this front.

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