Well, here is the truth and especially rampant in IT. The article is well intended. But it does not work in India.
Presumptions:
1. The candiates are of very similar experiences. 2. Both candiates are considered to be more or less of same caliber.
A Tamil will always promte a Tamil, so also a Punjabi, a Telugu, a Bengali, a Marathi. I have been over 5 yrs in North and over 5 yrs in South. But I find the bias is rampant in South (at the same time North is no saint - but less evil in this respect)
There are expeptions, like if you are an incredible performer and the work you do can be by very FEW. This is in Product companies based in foreign - but there you have individual performer role and actually management is some GORA. And you know how much they scuk. Management by Indians is literally non-existent.
In IT services or Indian IT prdoduct company, never ever think that you will be promoted as manager for your performance. Never ever think that you will be promoted over another peer who speaks the native tongue of the supervisor. The language divison rules. And hence the attrition (other reason being salary hike).
So, why they do it?
They feel comfortable. Of course, native tongue is most comfortable one.
Now will learn all the langauges in India. (15 or 18 or 20 or more??) Good lord. It is difficult to completely master even "C" language in 9/10 years, forget learning 20 languages.
RE:Facts As Always
by Ordinary Indian on May 10, 2008 02:14 PM Permalink
So, what are the options.
1. Quit and you have another offer in another company as a manager (and that time it is fine). The current peer (who is promoted will not leave and he will false promises, believe me). The person who gets promoted will leave. (there are 2 kinds of them in a company - 1. loyalty because you know and love the company 2. loyalty because you do not know much.). And the fact the 2nd category gets promoted!!
And how come you are able to get an offer in other company as a manager if there is regional bias?
Same case also happened there and hence there is attrition. Or more likely that they are expanding and your skillset is highly desired.
2. Better, start thinking of your company. The whole IT services business can be done by anyone. And CMMi5 level, even my next door HR recruiting company is CMMi4 level!!
3. Do nothing. Leave peacefully. As withing years IT outsourcing is going to die.
You will not see Infosys, Wipro, TCS ... Wipro has already started recruiting BSc, 12th standard and so also TCS.
If you are techinally good, no matter what you will get a job.
Bide your time peacefully, prepare for something else.
Bottomline it is a naukri anyone (being a naukar of someone = servant)
RE:RE:Facts As Always
by chinnanai on May 10, 2008 02:19 PM Permalink
I am not sure of others. But Tamils are pretty advanced in this respect.
What I do not understand is they have insulated Chennai and TN from everyone. But they have infiltrated Blore, Hyd. Reason being 3rd class engg. colleges, who have infested the IT.
In Chennai, a 2 building engg. college is next to a drainage pipeline (smells like hlel). (near St Thomas mount). Can you belive it?
More unbelievable is Wipro recruited 70 people for there (credible report). And Wipro recruits far less from other reputed engg. colleges. Well, they may not get a slot. But can you believe of taking enggineering students near Latrine. Another one is at Mamblam. Do not how many from there got place at Infy or Wipro.
RE:Facts As Always
by Vinu on May 16, 2008 11:41 AM Permalink
the one next to st.thomas mount is not a engineering collage, its study center for amie. Amie is the only engineering deg a poor can affrord (though its very tough to pass). And remember people carry education with them and no one carry the drainage smell in their heads
Take smoke breaks, tolerate the smell. Acquire similar tastes and yet maintain individuality! What crap. What a useless set of advice. Thanks, I would rather remain in the same seat forever, but carry home my dignity everyday home.
Anybody knows about Rediff Auction? bec they giving the products (like 24 carot gold chains) for Rs.1 with shipping charges around Rs.199. Any info on this pls?
Koee Laakh Kare Chaturaire Karama Ka Lekh Mitenare Bhai.
Believe It Or Not. If you replace your nose with sharp sensor, you would definitely note and find the ground reality - 1) 360 deg system - allows non-performers to ruin the performer and also allows such non-performers to form groups and reap benefits at the cost of performer. 2) BSC - there is total imbalance in the score card because again the scores are given by non-performers to ruin the performer. 3) Late sitting - nobody likes but you know after 1998 recession, it has become mandatory. To control it only one string is required that organisations start paying double overtime for every hour they make the employee sit for work or otherwise. 4) The great reference policy snatches the opportunity from persons who are real performers but lack influential backgrounds and references. 5) If you think, doing good for the organisation is always good think 100 times because there are many who would not like you to do good (as it's other side is like a mirror to those who have not done much good for the organisation and they can be your 360 deg raters).
I think when you are self sufficient in money terms and are not under pressure of loosing life when your job goes then you are a real hero and then even 360 deg cannot ruin your individuality as you are no more dependent on your job, you have other sources too to fulfill your daily needs and enjoyments.
these days pple go to any extent og getting promoted. one has to say "YES" to everything which the bosses say. no matter right or wrong. then only one can move up the ladder of the "CORPORATE" world. when 4 pple sit on a table and spoil things that is called "Corporate"
RE:this article sends wrong message
by harsh dutta on May 07, 2008 07:00 PM Permalink
agreed, it was just pathetic to see the write encouraging smoking...I request rediff to take that part away from the article. It is a shame!
RE:this article sends wrong message
by People Buster on May 07, 2008 07:38 PM Permalink
I agree. If it was supposed to be a humour... then it did not make ME smile atleast...
