A woman is a daughter, a wife and a mother. She bears the burden of family and faces all adversities that may come their way. So in recognition of all that, this day is important.
RE:Why Women's day??
by ravi on Mar 04, 2008 01:42 PM Permalink
it's true, but not unique, if women is daughter,mother, sister then man is a dad, husband,brother,son. everyone have their own priories and roles. Then why need to celebrate only women's day. instead of that celebrate humans day or day for humanity. it is very nice.
RE:Why Women's day??
by Sandip Ray on Mar 04, 2008 02:25 PM Permalink
A Man is a son, husband and a father, the responsibilities are also not less. So we have to celebrate Man's Day also. This is a very foolish logic
RE:Why Women's day??
by vikram on Mar 04, 2008 01:36 PM Permalink
Dont u think a man is a son, husband and father too.....and in yr opinion, he does not bear any burden or adversity ??? u dumbo bimbo
RE:Why Women's day??
by Naina Pandey on Mar 04, 2008 02:10 PM Permalink
Yes, but men dont have babies. So they wont understand the pain!! Men dont experience the labor pain and the agony. So its easy being a father..try being a mother!!!
RE:RE:Why Women's day??
by BVR Murthy on Mar 06, 2008 04:55 PM Permalink
Well said. Nature made us that way to protect the mother and child we needed to be strong. Now if a man doesn't do his duty will his woman be happy? If a women doesn't do her duty you think her man will be happy?
Have you ever thought how much tough stressful work a man goes through to keep his family pleased, how many overnights he has to do in office so that his family can benefit well.
Is there anyone who knows about prostrate cancer which is the second most killer disease for men after heart disease/attack? But we keep beating loud about breast cancer, ovarian cancer etc.?
I hope you are more sensible enough to realize all this.
RE:Why Women's day??
by ravi on Mar 04, 2008 02:28 PM Permalink
is it makes men inferior to women? It's a responsibility that nature gave to women,Still men are taking care of both child and mother. O.k i will agree that women's work in giving birth is more compared to men, but it doesn't mean that men are not playing the roles as dad or brother or husband. isn't it?
RE:RE:Why Women's day??
by ravi on Mar 04, 2008 02:35 PM Permalink
and another thing is there any provision for men to be a "mother". No, this is the only confidence of women behind these type of statements.
Woman have been neglected for years which has lead to their miseries. The Corporate Woman are a miniscule of the ocean of women in the planet in a poor situation even in the 21st Century. Celebration of this day becomes meaningful if those deprived and neglected women can be taken in the included in the bandwagon of woman success. It needs to be more focussed towards the down troden class and the initiative should be taken more by the Successful & Accomplished Woman. - Sandip Ray
RE:They need to be fealt special
by gautam rao on Mar 06, 2008 05:20 PM Permalink
Men have been discriminated throughout history and more so in the modern world. The women's moverment is on top now and is fooling the people with one sided stories and is indulging in victim politics. Do you know that men have a lot of discrimination to face? Talk about men's rights too.
RE:They need to be fealt special
by Swathie on Mar 04, 2008 04:15 PM Permalink
I think this is a presumptive statement not based on facts. There are enough women in urban cities which comprises 38% of indian population.
Women does not mean wives along, it is sisters and mothers as well. Today mothers and sisters are put in jail to help criminal wives as has happened in my own family 4 years back. Since then I have been fighting for the rights of sisters and mothers in hyderabad.
Just look at what is happening to dowry laws. Out of every 100 cases 98% are proven false in criminal courts after a thorough investigation of 10 years. Almost 80,000 false cases are filed every year and more than 2 lakh innocents are jailed wrongly. Because of false complaint of one criminal woman, 2 women at-least end up in jail.
Just type 498a on google and spend 5 minutes to see the truth. On this women's day several mothers and sisters are coming together in hyderabad to demand rights to sisters and mothers and stop the criminal activities of corrupt women abusing laws like dowry and DV laws and causing enormous pain to millions of mothers and sisters.
RE:They need to be fealt special
by BVR Murthy on Mar 06, 2008 04:56 PM Permalink
We need equal rights for MEN also in terms of child custody etc. If a women is given the rights to keep her child in case of a divorce, I feel a man should be given the right to keep the child for the same period after the child is grown up. The child has to necessarily 'comply' if such a law is created.
The protesters were attacked and dispersed by police. These women established their first labor union in the same month two years later.
More protests followed on 8 March in subsequent years, most notably in 1908 when 15,000 women marched through New York City demanding shorter hours, better pay and voting rights[citation needed]. In 1910 the first international women's conference was held in Copenhagen (in the labour-movement building located at Jagtvej 69, which until recently housed Ungdomshuset) by the Second International and an 'International Women's Day' was established, which was submitted by the important German Socialist Clara Zetkin. The following year, IWD was marked by over a million people in Austria, Denmark, Germany and Switzerland. However, soon thereafter, the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire in New York City killed over 140 garment workers. A lack of safety measures was blamed for the high death toll. Furthermore, on the eve of World War I, women across Europe held peace rallies on 8 March 1913. In the West, International Women's Day was commemorated during the 1910s and 1920s, but dwindled. It was revived by the rise of feminism in the 1960s.
Demonstrations marking International Women's Day in Russia proved to be the first stage of the Russian Revolution of 1917.
Following the October Revolution, the Bolshevik feminist Alexandra Kollontai persuaded Lenin to make it an official holiday in Russia, and it was established, but was a working day until 1965.
RE:International Women's Day..contd.............
by ravi on Mar 04, 2008 01:57 PM Permalink
every one know this history. And another point is now women are not facing that much problem in wages. According to govt rules, men and women are getting equal wages now, then why this day still?
International Women's Day (IWD) is marked on March 8 every year. It is a major day of global celebration for the economic, political and social achievements of women.
Started as a political event, the holiday blended in the culture of many countries (primarily Russia and the countries of former Soviet bloc). In some celebrations, the day lost its political flavour, and became simply an occasion for men to express their love to the women around them in a way somewhat similar to Mother's Day and St Valentine's Day mixed together. In others, however, the political and human rights theme as designated by the United Nations runs strong, and political and social awareness of the struggles of women worldwide are brought out and examined in a hopeful manner.
The first IWD was observed on 28 February 1909 in the United States following a declaration by the Socialist Party of America. Among other relevant historic events, it commemorates the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire (New York, 1911), where over 140 women lost their lives. The idea of having an international women's day was first put forward at the turn of the 20th century amid rapid world industrialization and economic expansion that led to protests over working conditions. By urban legend,[1][2] women from clothing and textile factories staged one such protest on 8 March 1857 in New York City[citation needed]. The garment workers were protesting what they saw as very poor working conditions and low wages. The protesters were
RE:International Women's day..more from Wikipedia
by ravi on Mar 04, 2008 01:47 PM Permalink
if women's day which is for expressing love towards women, then why there is no men's day celebrated like this? why people are thinking men are no need to be loved or worth ignored.
Do women participate in Men's day which celebrate on NOV 19? Because men also need love from women.
First of all, for Rediff and its users women means city women probably.Noticed? This platform is full of anti women comments by guys? What%u2019s the problem? Why people are so worried to see a handful of strong/seld reliant women and labeling them as bitches, adulterous and what not? A country where almost 50% women are illiterate..in the rest 50% very few go for high school, fewer to college and even among them, majority is married off after B.A. in some useless subject. Negligible % of Indian women makes it to jobs and they too leave it after marriage or kids. What do you want guys? Isn't this wretched condition of women is not satisfying your male ego.What more? Where do you live? Go to the villages and see what%u2019s happening with women 70% of India's population still resides in villages..80% poor women there work both in the fields and home and also beaten every night by their husbands.
RE:Women's day is useless.Women have a long way to go but the day doesn't help
by gautam rao on Mar 06, 2008 05:26 PM Permalink
VOICE, rediff.com is very unlikely to be accessed by village folk. It is urban men and women who access it and have e-mail accounts. Men here are not attacking women. They are attacking the women's movemnet which is a FRAUD! Talking about male ego, it is not a crime to have a "Male Ego". After all women too have a "Female Ego" and it is not a crime too. Men's rights have been forgotten and discrimination faced by men has never come to light. It is becoming totally one-sided. So, guys are expressing thier anger and hopefully some people will see the other side too.
RE:Women's day is useless.Women have a long way to go but the day doesn't help
by VOICE on Mar 08, 2008 09:08 AM Permalink
Rediff.com did not publish news about what happened in Nandigram? Are Nandigram people lilely to read rediff? So much of frustration over just in few yrs of biased laws? We have been living with all kinds of bises the Patricrchy with 1000 of yrs.even after working as hard as male, girl child is unwanted in a family because the guys are Kul ka chirag. And yes , you dont need to be in village to know whats happening there. Just keep your eyes and ears open in a country like India. I am not a village girl that I know what is happening there I know because I work for them and writing here only after what I have seen for years. It is horrifying. The problem is with the ego kick that SOME men get by molesting women or seeing them molested or the frustration and feeling of inseurity on seeing a few successful women. I am not anti men. I am anti patriarchy. We can discuss men's issues under a different topic but why men fill the whole place with their issues whenever womyn and their issues are being discussed?
RE:Women's day is useless.Women have a long way to go but the day doesn't help
by ravi on Mar 04, 2008 02:01 PM Permalink
Voice, stop stereo typing of all men. Not all men are beating their wives. I agree that women's condition in villages still need to be improved, but saying every women is beaten up by their husband is tooooo much. According to the official survey also, your statement is not valid.(remember these surveys always done on women, there is no survey on men and their condition, so all of these are one side views).
RE:Women's day is useless.Women have a long way to go but the day doesn't help
by VOICE on Mar 04, 2008 02:19 PM Permalink
When did I say ALL WOMEN ARE BEING BEATEN UP BY THEIR HUSBANDS? You are reading too much between the lines. As per a survey published in The Hindu on the same useless occassion last year, 50% womyn in India are the victims of domestic violence and yes I have met and have been very close to the real victims.There are bad men and bad womyn but our patriarchal society is only against womyn.
RE:RE:Women's day is useless.Women have a long way to go but the day doesn't help
by gautam rao on Mar 06, 2008 05:29 PM Permalink
Don't blame patriarchy for every problem on the earth. It is still the best system and your movement which glorifies matriarchy will be a total failure. Patriarchy discriminates men too. Who told you that one-sided story? Men have no choice but to protect and provide for women. Women are considered morally superior to men.
RE:Women's day is useless.Women have a long way to go but the day doesn't help
by ravi on Mar 04, 2008 02:33 PM Permalink
""80% poor women there work both in the fields and home and also beaten every night by their husbands.""
voice this is your statement in the post, it claims 80%, near to ALL. But the survey told only 50% of women are harassed. In between you told that mejority of women living in village, that means the violence in cities is very less. but survey didn't agree with that statement. that's why i am saying this.
RE:Women's day is useless.Women have a long way to go but the day doesn't help
by VOICE on Mar 05, 2008 08:31 AM Permalink
80% women poor women work in the farm not all of them are being beaten by their husband but a big majority is.You are cribbing so much about men's worsening situation? Is it worse tha women in India? I don't think you have only seen a handful of corporate women. ..isn't 50% dv victims enough to satisfy the male ego?I do not beleive in glorifying womyn because glorofication is also a part pf patriarchy..you label womyn as gossedd and then they are forced to divine..sacrifice everything. Many things that are taken forgranted are highly humuliating starting from Kanyadan like an object to moving to somebody elses house to take some body elses name to the children where the womyn takes all the pain of giving birth and what not and the children still carry father's name.Why men don't have to change anything? Why even earning womyn sacrifices her own people, her home, her name? what is the percent of the kind of womyn you are talking about in your posts?
RE:RE:Women's day is useless.Women have a long way to go but the day doesn't help
by gautam rao on Mar 06, 2008 05:32 PM Permalink
Stop cribbing about women's issues. Enough of it. Now, listen to men's issues and discrimination too. Men's movement is picking up and you will face REAL opposition for your feminist plans and plans to feminize men and eunuchise men.Men will give back women.
Noticed? This platform is full of anti women comments by guys? What%u2019s the problem? Why people are so worried to see a handful of strong/seld reliant women and labeling them as bitches, adulterous and what not? A country where almost 50% women are illiterate..in the rest 50% very few go for high school, fewer to college and even among them, majority is married off after B.A. in some useless subject. Negligible % of Indian women makes it to jobs and they too leave it after marriage or kids. What do you want guys? Isn't this wretched condition of women is not satisfying your male ego.What more? Where do you live? Go to the villages and see what%u2019s happening with women 70% of India's population still resides in villages..80% poor women there work both in the fields and home and also beaten every night by their husbands.
RE:RE:I do not support womyn's day because it doesn't help--A Womyn
by POONAM on Mar 04, 2008 01:30 PM Permalink
HI Carry on in feture you might be a light for poor women
Everyday is a women's day.from morning to evening her schedule, look like a wheel moving an moving. When we talk of equality then why is it not on all grounds. Besides it when she has has prove her worth, intelligence, capability etc. on all sectors, either it is home, board room, space, navy, airforce, icu, it sector ets. Men should respect her attitude,capability and support her. he should remember nari tu hi narayani.If it happens then no need to remember a woman on a particular day. If society respect a women half of the crimes will get stopped. So, care, respect, understand, support women.
RE:RESPECT WOMEN
by Partha Roy on Mar 04, 2008 01:06 PM Permalink
Yes Madhu u r right.But I think care,respect,understand,support should be in both direction.
RE:RESPECT WOMEN
by neha kshetri on Mar 05, 2008 01:26 PM Permalink
Very true Partha . It must b followed by both - man n at the same time by a woman too . Mutual care, respect , understanding and support are essential factors for a good community.
RE:RESPECT WOMEN
by neha kshetri on Mar 05, 2008 01:25 PM Permalink
Very true Partha . It must b followed by both - man n at the same time by a woman too . Mutual care, respect , understanding and support are essential factors for a good community.
RE:RESPECT WOMEN
by gautam rao on Mar 06, 2008 05:35 PM Permalink
First change the laws that give undue privilege to women. Then talk about equality. You want men to respect women but want women to be treated with special privileges. That's a double standard.
I dont think we need to celebrate a so called "Womans Day", atleast not any more. We r Stree - The Power. We do get almost all the previlages a man enjoys sans a few. And as for asking for those few rights, we will eventually get them too. And let men be taught from their childhood be taught to respect woman, treat her as a human and not as a "cheez badi mast mast".
RE:Women's day is just a gimmick
by gautam rao on Mar 06, 2008 05:38 PM Permalink
Prabha, women have got much much more than men. From IT rebates to railway concessions to reservations to laws. Its now a women dominated society where men are marginalised. Women should stick to one thing. Either they are equal and should not expect special privileges or they are not and expect chivalry and privileges.
RE:Let's have one Women's Day
by Sharda on Mar 04, 2008 01:41 PM Permalink
Hello I feel every day is not a MAN'S day infact everyday is a normal day. Womens day must be and should be celebrated by all men just not to attract his girl friend but to give honour and respect to woman kind especilally his mother, sister and wife. Sharada.
Over a period, women who were branded to be weak,have proved their worth themeselves and hence today they are considered equal to men in all fields , and hence today we talk of equality of sex, no discrimination of sex,etc etc. Hence in my opinion, we can celebrate this special day to comemorate this success and change over.
RE:women's day
by gautam rao on Mar 06, 2008 05:39 PM Permalink
Men are now discriminated in terms of tax, concessions, etc. etc, what about that?
