The community which is backward from thousands of year,community whose social development has not been done in so many years,whose children were not educated from so many years and they are suffering from untouchabilty from so many years,how can a person say that reservation for that community is wrong.
Reservation for sc/st should be raised up to level of atleast 50% so that we could bring them in the race of development very soon,they could become the part of nation development.
But i will say reservation in two areas should not be implemented. Medicines and defence.
I request other people that pls think about the nation not only about yourself.
RE:Reservation is absolutely ok in national favour.
by Srabani Mukherjee on Jun 04, 2007 05:14 PM Permalink
I dont know about your caste but I am the suffered due to reservation. Inspite of doing better than my SC ST friends I have not found admission in reputed govt. schools. Why should I suffer because of no fault of mine. It is only because my parents are bramhin and if you think that every bramhin is wealthy then come to my village. My father works in a shop and he earns 50Rs/. daily. So where should I go ? where should my child goes ? They all worked in the shop? I am here in front of the computer because some how after completing my graduation I have got an entry lebel job and from there I got promotion and earns more money than my sc/st friends who because of their caste has got a government job.
RE:Reservation is absolutely ok in national favour.
by on Jun 04, 2007 05:17 PM Permalink
You are confusing social problem with education, employment and economics. Bring in participation from backward communities in the government so they can ensure the law is just and people who are alienated because of their community status are allowed legal means to improve their social conditions.
Primary and Secondary Education should be free for all who cannot afford it!
Jobs should be provided through voluntary programs of public and private organizations! Govt should consider their progress every year before providing them future biz expansion approvals.
RE:RE:Reservation is absolutely ok in national favour.
by arungopal agarwal on Jun 04, 2007 05:14 PM Permalink
Congress started this movement for untouchables but made it a vote bank politics. later on other parties have added fuel in fire.Please first stop creamy layer, who is snatching all this benefit from the needy persons of SC/ST,
RE:Reservation is absolutely ok in national favour.
by Bhaskar Govindan on Jun 04, 2007 05:21 PM Permalink
Why do you leave that remaining 50%? Take that also and enjoy all for yourself.
RE:Reservation is absolutely ok in national favour.
by Jitendra Gadhave on Jun 04, 2007 05:28 PM Permalink
Dear Friend, I agree with your views. But when 85% of people of a country like India are scstobc then can you calculate how many thousand years will take so that those people will get benefited? Just imagine when iit iim aiims have around thousand each. Then how many millions years it will take so that one from each family will get benefited? The root cause of problem is poverty and illiteracy so reservation, if should exists, be based on financial status. Just imagine person like you who is internet / computer savvy and can write in English so well, need reservation in iit/iiim and aims? If yes then those for whom this policy is made will never get benefited even when last human will be alive in universe. So we need creamy layer policy, if reservation is made. Just think did dr ambedkar, phule got reservations??? It was their sheer talent by which they come up in nation. Ambedkar said learn, unite and fight. But it has been wrongly interpreted by people. They learn (show certificate and pass some how, again show certificate and get ahead and cycle continues), They unite (to ask for more reservations and more benefit for people who really need affirmative actions, and after passing resolution jump over those people and reap of benefits and cry for them again and again) and after that fight (again for reservation that we have seen after independence and even today in Rajasthan). Please stop saying %u201Cthink of nation and not about self%u201D since those people rat
RE:Reservation is absolutely ok in national favour.
by arungopal agarwal on Jun 04, 2007 06:04 PM Permalink
SC/ST are to raise against creamy layers and politically made SC/ST for their Vote Bank,like Gujjars, as they are snatching the rights of needy SC/STs.
RE:Reservation is absolutely ok in national favour.
by dipak goyal on Jun 04, 2007 05:26 PM Permalink
We are thinking bout the nation and that is why we are against the reservation. I have seen SC/St people in govt. sector who don't know how to writea simple leteer and they occupy the seats in PWD. What's the result. The work gets delayed and you are talking about "concern for the nation". If you SC?st people have least amount of nation-concern , you would not support reservation, which you are supporting now for only and only your personal benefits.
RE:Reservation is absolutely ok in national favour.
by viya kumari on Jun 05, 2007 01:03 AM Permalink
we and r nation have seen some higher caste corrupt ppoliticaians who are ready to do any for their benefiss.
There should not be any reservation, yes those who are financially backwards should be given free tution or monetary help to compete but all the jobs, all the education should be based on merit. And for deserving candidates caste shoudl not come as hinderance. Our President is from very poor family and he did not need reservation to shine. The best should be given a chance. From 1947 we have the reservation in our systems and if a caste does not come up after 60 long years, they will not come after thousand years. I have come across quite a few gazetted office who can hardly read english. So with this kind of workforce can we expect to be in the top of the world. The world is giving respect to India today is because of its IT workforce and that workforce is here because in the private sector there is no reservation at all. The govt. is now trying to impose the reservation in the private sector also and the day it will do it mandatory again India will go down among other countries. For God sake good spirit comes among the politicians and reservations be abolished from every aspect of life.
Reservations in all forms and shapres whether based on caste, creed, relogion, teibes, gender have to go if our country has to make any meaningful progress.
The economically deprived should be extended all possible monetary assistance. raise the income tax by another 5 % to finance these unfortunate among us. But put an end to this madness and sickness called RESERVATIONS. Let RESERVATIONS be confined only to Cinema, Train, Air Tickets.
We have suffered enough on account of this stupidity. Let us put and end to this nonsense
Nehru's reservation policy goals have been long twisted out of their original purpose. Anyway, here is my proposal for future.
Economic conditions and Reservations: -> Primary and Secondary education should be provided free for children whose parents are ecnomically backward by both public and private educational institutions. Education for students who can afford it should be provided at a cost. -> For higher education, **good students** whose parents are not financially capable of educating their children should be given financial aid in both public & private institutions so they can compete in the real world. -> Employment for economically backward should be provided through "affirmative action" by both private and public companies. SOPs will be provided by Central Govt for those whose performance on "affirmative action" is exemplary. THERE SHOULD BE NO FIXED RESERVATION IN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ORGANIZATION.
Social Conditions and Reservations: -> If the rights of an individual are violated because of belonging to a social group, community, religion, caste or creed, then a legal action should be allowed against those who perpetrate it and/or abett it. -> There should be a social and political solution worked out to represent all communities in the local, state and central governments. This will ensure the law makers to be fair. -> Religious leaders should be consulted and utilised in an appripriate manner to influence communities during troubled times.
RE:Reservations - at two levels (economic & social)
by simply on Jun 04, 2007 05:10 PM Permalink
This is the ideal solution that needs to be appreciated
RE:Reservations - at two levels (economic & social)
by Vijay Swaminathan on Jun 04, 2007 05:16 PM Permalink
This is a thoroughly thought out solution, unfortunately, this individual is not an IAS Officer per say and neither does his vote count. So you know the perpetrators of this crime based on Caste & Creed is only to bring about conflict of interest of individuals while the actual enforcers are using it to cover other "dirty" deeds. Three cheers to you buddy!!! I truely believe, "No Reservations" in the field of Medicine & Defence, (Like someone mentioned above) and reservations to be given at grass root levels rather than at Higher eductation levels. Financial assistance is what that is required, but then the finance is not where it is supposed to be, right?
It is a clever way of Blood thirsty politicians pitching one community against the other to derive selfish benefit for them. Neither the nation nor the deserving in those communities benefitted by this. What is needed is financial,material and moral help to the socialy and economicaly poor people to get education and opportunities at par with the well of sections.It should be a helping hand to the genuinely deprived sections and not avengence towards brilliant and meritorious students, on them the future of our nation rests.
I belong to forward cast. In my opinion Reservation quota for SC/ST should be there with slight modification linking to financial backwardness. I had witnessed in my childhood when my father was working in Agency area where the students are so backward that they should no doubt be brought to the society by giving suppot of reservations etc. But on this plea now these categories of people who are well to do are enjoying on the shelter of cast which should no longer be permitted. Hence there should be a policy that resevation is not resticted to cast only but should be a combination of cast financial backwardness.
after independence of this country SC/ST reservations was made constitutionaly mandatory to the extent of 15% for SC and 7.5% for ST.After this sometimes back the Supreme Court of India suggested that there should be one time reservation but no politicians of this country had the courage to accept this great suggestion of Supreme Court.Had this sugession been accepted then this cancer of redervation would not have grown further.Then came the reservation of OBC in states, the result of Mandal Commision, to the extent of 27%.This was the time the Supreme Court suggested that the reservations should in no case exceed 50% because it was feared that reservations step by step may go upto even 100%.Flouting the Supreme Court Tamil Nadu government went to the extent of 69% reservation.I still wonder why other states have not folowed suit.Now the central government has passed OBC reservations in the central government educational institutions.Of and on we keep on hearing other type of reservations in one way or the other.Lately we are hearing about the Gurjars are demanding their their status from OBC to ST and this is being opposed by Meenas. In conclusion this reservations is a cancerous growth which has all the damaging effect on the politicians mind, the persons who are getting the reservations and worst of all dividing the societies in general and the country in particular. I wish and pray to the GOD this cancer of reservation is eradicated from this country soon.
I am against all reservations as they are based on unjust principles and are nothing but a cynical scramble for jobs and unearned opportunities by powerful segments.
The current violent Gujjar agitation should be an eye opener for all right thinking Indians. Except politicians who are only interested in vote banks all others will not favour reservations. In recent times Arjun Singh has done a lot of damage to our prestigious higher institutes of learning. No reservations should exist except for the highly economically backward and that too, limited to a maximum of 20%. This is the best in the country's interest. Casteism is growing into greater divisive force because of reservations. Casteism will reduce and ultimately vanish, once all reservations are scrapped. Caste in marriage and family structure may continue, but will not harm public life. The need of the hour is to spread basic education on a war footing. Once all Indians have received a reasonable level of education, a number of problems will take care of themselves.
