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I have just one word.
by uday on Sep 21, 2006 09:18 AM  Permalink 

Disastrous.

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Change for good or bad
by Shantanu on Sep 21, 2006 08:29 AM  Permalink 

JEE will be standardized - whatever format of questions/pattern is picked, it will be standardized in some form. Any standardized test can be mastered by training. The only approach is changing the pattern before coaching folks catch up. However, then you have made more expensive and best coaching still more in demand. There is no such solution. The best way is to make it like GMAT/CAT and provide coaching material freely downloadable for all.

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GOOD Changes
by Zeeshan Ahmad on Sep 21, 2006 05:18 AM  Permalink 

it is good that IIt director is thinking for poor students. It is very good ................

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IIT 2007
by shekhar on Sep 20, 2006 10:30 PM  Permalink 


In my opinion the situation will not change..
The coaching class rigorous training cannot be substituted - it mocks the JEE board's claims..
For example..Bansal Kota had 784 selections in JEE 2005... while in JEE 2006 it reached a record 923 selections..... despite many BANSAL students caught unaware between Objectivity and Subjectivity

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Watering down JEE
by shantanu on Sep 20, 2006 09:37 PM  Permalink 

Beginning of the end for a great institution.

Watered down JEE, faulty policies like reservation etc....will ensure that we have 65Kg of meat sitting in those lecture halls...not the bright minds we associate IIT with.

What next: GMAT style dumb entrance exams, Parents recommending their kids (aka return of donations), a Student association with elections and all its filth,
Murali Manohar Joshi type professors....

IIT - Idiot Institute of Technology.


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BAD DEAL
by suren on Sep 20, 2006 09:09 PM  Permalink 

This is bad for IIT. Many fluke candidates without proper analytical skills will get admitted and that will bring down the reputation of the IIT's add 50% OBC to it. Coaching Centers will dominate even more now, the whole reasoning is flawed. But who cares its the politicians who will drive the education system to the ground, and all we can do is sit and watch.

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The new pattern is better
by Manish Pharasi on Sep 20, 2006 08:50 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I took and cleared JEE in 1991..since than it has come a long way. I did not take up any coaching classes except postal coaching from Brilliant tutorials.I agree completely that the mushrooming of coaching institutes made it biased towards the people who can afford coaching. Moreover, JEE had become more predictable off late and hence was skewing towards 'rote' and not 'sound fundamentals'. The best and the brightest should get a chance. Hope this change helps in meeting the desired objectives.

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RE:The new pattern is better
by Sreejith.U on Sep 22, 2006 11:14 AM  Permalink
Mr.Shaswant

I think u did nnot understand the thread of argument in Mr.Kelkar statement. Mr.Kelkar is supporting the true objective of education. Much much higher level. An IITian should meet that objective not an acrobatic skill. Test taking techniques, mock JEEs are all part of these acrobatic skills and not meeting the true objective of education

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::SHUT UP, MR. KELKAR::
by Shashwat on Sep 20, 2006 07:15 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

"...the domination of coaching classes has been rather detrimental, as it has put the IITs out of the reach of sections of society that cannot afford high-priced coaching...": Do you mean to say that throwing money at a coaching can buy you a seat? "...Coaching classes are masterful at reverse engineering the JEE examination but, as a result, their focus is on teaching the rote art of test-taking rather than fundamentals. As a consequence, the IITs were admitting some who were selected not because of their true academic abilities and potential, but more because of their skill in 'gaming' the system...": I vehemently protest against these false allegations. One look at how students persistently pursue in Kota under the able guidance of their mentors and you will beg to disagree too. "...the new pattern will curb these tendencies and level the playing field...": Do you mean to say that the playing field is biased right now? I am afraid, you belong to those highly-ignorant species. Money can't buy you a seat, dear. All you need to do is to plan purposefully, prepare prayfully and proceed positively towards the exam hall.

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RE:::SHUT UP, MR. KELKAR::
by ash on Sep 24, 2006 06:34 PM  Permalink
actually what shaswat said is not wrong. I know many of my frendz who r trying for JEE. Coaching classes do not necessarily teach the "art of solving JEE ". Students definitely have to struggle with their concepts of phy,chem and maths.

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RE:::SHUT UP, MR. KELKAR::
by VC on Sep 23, 2006 04:11 PM  Permalink
Now the readers of rediff.com know atleast one person who has either got into IIT exclusively because of the coaching classes and not through personal merit, or is really desperate to get into IIT but has been unsuccessful thus far.

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