I though I should also comment on the subject with me being in a similar position during my JEE time.That time too many ppl had counselled me to take up a better branch in some other institute but I never had any doubt about joining an IIT.A classmate of mine had a slightly higher JEE rank but he opted for Comp.Sci at another top Engg Coll .Today as we both pass out I have a starting salary that is more than twice of his.
What most ppl forget is that just because as a 17 year old you liked computers(who dosent?) does meat you will end up liking Computer Engineering which is an entirely different ballgame.
But what you get at IIT is unparalled elsewhere,weather it be the flexiblity in choosing subjects,the great extracurricular environment and last but not the least the life long brand name.
During placments companies come because of the IIT Brand and from then on all branches are equal.
waht matters are your academics,extracurriculrs and things like spoken english.And every year you end up seeing ppl with ranks of 1500+ in JEE beating the guys who had scored under 100 ranks.
RE:Branch Hardly Matter's
by Gyan Guru on Jun 24, 2006 10:46 PM Permalink
It just a good initial launching pad and that is all!!! watch after a few years your friend will surpass you.............just like the hare and tortoise. Hare was branded as fast runner right???
RE:Branch Hardly Matter's
by Bhanu on Sep 13, 2007 10:54 AM Permalink
Gyaan Guru,
Well IIT is a place where being a mechanical engineer, u also get to get too good in CSE or EE. Course sturcture is such that you can choose audit courses every semester in ant discipline of your choice outside ur core which I think wont be available in other "good ?" institutes. Also, the level of facilities and exposure in IIT is unparallel and yes, IITians are best in every field. IIT is nt just a good initial launch pad but a life time experience. It is the culture at IIT which molds an individual to a natural leader and not just the education.
Re: RE:Branch Hardly Matter's
by tamal sarkar on Dec 23, 2015 07:18 PM Permalink
a comp science is comp science at end of the day otherwise google or Facebook wouldn't have restricted other branches and out of 6 rounds in facebook 4 are in depth comp science ...and i hope no branch in any IIT will make their own stream secondary to give comp science job in facebook to their department students . thats not the intention and neither that is so easy . the ones who did this landed up being 6 and 7 pointers and couldnt get in any Ivey US university for an MS program as the GPA in their own subject was pathetic
I saw that in many articles you recommend (indirectly or directly) students to avoid engineering branch like metallurgy. I hate such kind of poorly studied suggestion by you. What does u know about metallurgy and materials Science branch? Each time you need not to think or make others to think that IT/software is the only field where person can achieve. Shame on you! You know almost nothing about metallurgy and materials science branch. Please do not give direct or indirect suggestions to peoples on the basis of your poor knowledge! I did my BTech from NIT, MTech from IIT and PhD from well-known US-university. Today\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s world is world of materials science. This is such a fantastic branch that any professional from any engineering/science branch can come under its banner. Trust me in future all technology (not only bloody s/w & IT) developments depends on this branch..from your daily mobile-phone to fuel in your car..everything.
Improve your limited knowledge and then give others suggestions. You studied in IIM that does not means you know the whole world.
RE:Metallurgy and materials sci
by abj on Jul 27, 2006 01:46 PM Permalink
I was myself in metallurgy branch of a regional institute of technology. The toppers of our class went jobless. Some of them got jobs in small time steel companies at a poor salary. In contrast, the people who got into software companies are doing well today. Unless you have a real abiding interest in Metallurgy, there is no point in building your career there.
RE:Metallurgy and materials sci
by debadutta prusty on Jul 13, 2007 12:51 AM Permalink
You were in RIT not in IIT.So think a lot before you giving advice to students
Hi, I had made this choice sometime back and chose not to go to the IIT. Today I am glad I did it. For two very strong reasons and probably they will help other confused atmas as well, so I am putting them down here:
1) Firstly it gave me a chance to learn what I intended to learn as per my career aspirations.
2) Since I didnt have the benefit of a brand, I had to choose again, when I got out of college, whether to take it easy with a strong brand image, or to continue my learning, strive harder.
So I made the right choice, still continuing to learn, and grow, and my friends who had passed out of secondary schools and chose IIT, now are working under my in a large organisation. Why? they took their brand and their learnings for granted whereas I took life on.
There is one factor that you have not taken in to account and which actually explains the \" Brandi-fication\" of IIT education as a whole. That factor is the IIT envionment. The kind of env. that you get here i.e ..you interact with , literally speaking, the best brains and definitly amongst the top personality in the nation that automaticaly ...i reapeat again ..automaticaly causes you to work harder ..be patient and be positive ...or else you won\'t survive in IIT education. Its kind of reflects the situation present in the corporate world. Coming back to the question of \" Brandi-fication\" ( pardon me for the choice of the word :) ...This kind of env. that is you interact and also compete with the best minds/personality present in the country ...you yourself make a brand out of it ..you yourself mould your personality on that direction and therefore YOU YOURSELF become the IIT brand.
RE:Very good advice but....
by Soumya on Jul 12, 2006 02:42 PM Permalink
Gyan guru....VP of microsoft was a good example... but while giving such examples they forget that there are innumerable ppl from IITs who are helm in other companies..they r just so many......and who is saying only IITians are doing good and r in top positions....but there percentage is much much more...dont post such frivolous examples and make fun of urself...
Rashmi, you are simply too good! This is exactly what I was going through during my (post)12th. It really took a lot of time and self-effort from my side to overcome the fact that 'I couldn't make through IITs/IIMs even after 1+ attempts.' My heart was not able to sink in the fact that 'its not the end of the world.' I chose to excel in what I like and do and today I don't regret a cent.
Its a lesson from my own life and definitely not a case of 'sour grapes.'
RE:IIT at any cost?
by Gyan Guru on Jun 23, 2006 09:44 PM Permalink
It is very interesting to see how people reacted in such a volatile maner on pressing a touchy nerve. I was amazed to see all these responses that Rashmi evoked from the guys from various institutes. and BTW, analogies used by Rashmi are very good, you get married once (unless otherwise) and you go to an institute once, so stop whining about the anology made by her.
Guys especially, IITans who have responded, have an open mind for F@#k sake and let someone express their thoughts, don't kill these thoughts by those big self-centric egos that you are burdening your thoughts with. The Indian VP of microsoft in not an IITian instead from Anna university, and there are various companies where you will see a mix of different alumni. So don't let your egos lead you'll astray that students from other institutes do not do well..blah blah blah.....
I went through all the comments and they stink on nothing but ego in one form or the other. Leave them aside and try to be better humans and try and have an open mind.
RE:IIT at any cost?
by Bhanu on Sep 13, 2007 11:05 AM Permalink
Gyan Guru: lets get some facts straight:
CEO of Infosys: IITain MD of US airways: IITian Founder of Sun Microsystem: IITian One of Associate Directors of McKinsey: IITian Head of M&M Auto R&D: IITian Head of JPL NASA: IITian VP of Schlumberger: IITian MD Deutsche Bank, USA: IITian CEO Vodafone: IITian Founder, CEO Apple Labs : IITian CEO WEBEX : IITian
And the list is endless, so dont give us the microsoft shit**
BITSAT score is the basis at BITS Pilani for not only getting admission to Engineering but also for Pharmacy, as well as various MSc(Hons) Programme in Biology, Chemistry, Economics, Maths and Physics at Pilani and Goa Campus. All students who get admission to the various MSc(Hons) programmes are given on priority an opportunity to work under the dual degree scheme of the Institute for one of the Engineering or Pharmacy programmes and the allotment is done by competition based on the performance of the student during the first year at the Institute. Under the Dual Degree Scheme, it is possible for a student to work for and complete concurrently two integrated first degrees say a BE (Hons) and an MSc(Hons)within a reasonable period of time which is typically 5 years. Imagine having a dual degree combination such as MSc Maths and BE Computer Science, MSc Chemistry and BE Chemical, MSc Physics and BE ELectrical Electronics, MSc Economics and BE Computer Science, MSc Biological Sciences and BPharm etc. Simply deadly combos and that is not thinkable in any of the other Indian Universities today. The dual degree scheme has been successfully working at Pilani for the past three decades!!
RE:BITS Pilani is different
by amrit raj on Jun 21, 2007 01:59 PM Permalink
u r absolutely correct but the matter is that these combos r deadly but there isnt much awareness abt it and people r tentative in persuing msc degree i have heard ur name r u from ranchi
Well!!the column is really good as far as readers who haven't cleared JEE or have not got any idea about the culture and attitude of a JEE qualified institute and students.Rashmi you belong to IIM-A I would like to ask you whether you would have gone for FMS Delhi or XLRI.No you wouldn't have done that even in your wildest of dreams.I agree with Sumit on the front that MSc in M&C is excellent but he would also not advice you to waste your JEE rank.I myself got excellent rank in CBSE (AIEEE) but had low rank in JEE but I didn't want to waste it n I opted fr IT-BHU Mining n after these 4 yrs I m proud of my decision. I am going to Stanford University (USA) fr MS , I had two IT Jobs at my disposal what else you want. You know what happens when companies come in at our insti's they don't even ask us about our past records as they do in other colleges (JEE effect).Guys in the synopsis I shall suggest you never waste your JEE rank fr any non JEE insti...its kind of " ki ek acchha karam tumhari zindagi ka saari zindagi ke bure karam ko chhupa lega".Its not only about IIT its about JEE my dear About Chandan opting fr IIIT,if he have had the JEE rank I bet he would have opted out of IIIT
Notwithstanding good anology of choosing engineering stram with life-partner, the author has not done enough justice to metallurgical engineering stream and it looks like playing down. Metallurgy is one of the brightest branches of engineering, though it comes as a surprise to many because of lack of knowledge. Many top S&T positions were held by metallurgists in last decade, the reason is it is the one of the fastest growing branch of engineerig. Recent phenomenal growth in the field of computers is due to leap in materials research. My humble request to the author is to make some fact finding survey on prospects of metallurgy.
Brand name does matter specially at present. There are innumerable companies which come only to IITs and not to nits. This might change in a few years. The kind of job opportunities i have found being in IIT are hard to find in other colleges. Engineering is not just software engineering! :) It might be consultant, Data Analysts, Finance, just to name a few. A lot of non IT, non engineering companies which visit IIMs come to IITs. Obviously it is very hard for a guy aged 17 to chalk out a career path!
