With high regards for Prem Panicker, I beg to differ from him.
How could he imagine that a side good on paper is a favourite to win the title? If experience is the biggest teacher, then he SHOULD not go by favourites. Was Sri Lanka the best side when the WC 96 began? Or for that matter was India the best side at the start of WC 83?
I would say, a side of spirited, talented and coherent players, with an eagerness to perform, and play as a team is the favourite for the title. We are talking 20-20 here as opposed to test match cricket, where experience and past records would have mattered. For that matter I would say even Rajastan Royals can be an absoulte favourite.
VVS Laxman would have been the best bet if it had been a test tournament. But 20-20, no way!
RE:Favourites theory
by dudeman on Apr 23, 2008 12:58 PM Permalink
even if it had been a test tournamanet, VVS's team would have no chance whatsoever. Its pretty evident when u see the DC's bowling "attack" comprising of vaas,RP,symo,ojha etc that they wont make any impact in T20, i shudder to think what they would have done in tests with such bowling prowress
RE:Favourites theory
by shankar aurade on Apr 23, 2008 01:03 PM Permalink
now it is clear that Bowling is weak side of DC. In t-20 matches 3 side are imporatant. 1 Batting 2 bowling 3 the most important is strtergy.
RE:Favourites theory
by Shiva on Apr 23, 2008 01:03 PM Permalink
The people who chose the players might have been under the impression that 20 20 is after all a batsman's game and bowlers dont have much of a role to play. But as we saw yesterday, the opening spell by McGrath and Asif proved crucial. Bowlers are important in this format as one good over can make all the difference. But I'll also say you need luck even if you're a good bowler to not get hit for runs in this format.
RE:Asif- Mcgrath
by dudeman on Apr 23, 2008 12:52 PM Permalink
there's a misconception that batters are more imp than bowlers in T20, but just think for a min,... all u need in T20 is slogging right...if 11 mediocre players start slogging, surely couple of them will click and thats what u need in T20....just 3-4 players scoring runs, which anyone can given the nature of game.....even a bowler can have a gr8 day and score quick runs...
but its not the case bowlers, u need quality bowling attack to bowl yorkers consistently...there's nothing much a batter can do when he has to face yorkers consistently... thats why a team with good bowlers will win inspite of an avg batting lineup in T20....
RE:Asif- Mcgrath
by ian on Apr 23, 2008 01:13 PM Permalink
but dude this is T20 yaha 1 galat yorker then batsman show him the stand...here the perfection matters..
RE:Asif- Mcgrath
by ian on Apr 23, 2008 01:03 PM Permalink
not agree..malinga,nehra aren't gud 1 for the T20..Pollock,jayasurya r gud but 1 thing abt mumbai they will suffer very hard in IPL
there's a misconception that batters are more imp than bowlers in T20, but just think for a min,... all u need in T20 is slogging right...if 11 mediocre players start slogging, surely couple of them will click and thats what u need in T20....just 3-4 players scoring runs, which anyone can given the nature of game.....even a bowler can have a gr8 day and score quick runs...
but its not the case bowlers, u need quality bowling attack to bowl yorkers consistently...there's nothing much a batter can do when he has to face yorkers consistently... thats why a team with good bowlers will win inspite of an avg batting lineup in T20....
Afridi and Gilly should be made openers.. Venugopal should be kicked out not only from team but also from Hyderabad..one seamer should come in his place.. Ojha (bad fielder)should be made shown his way out..one seamer should come in his place.. Laxman should come after rohit sharma..
RE:DC changes
by deepak jain on Apr 23, 2008 12:44 PM Permalink
he is good a player of the hydrabad team. He is able to be a captain of the team , n i m sure he will give the best of himself in the next matches so i thoght u r wrong
RE:DC changes
by sudhu on Apr 23, 2008 12:46 PM Permalink
fuhrer, dead right. rayudu was a great prospect.major set back to hyd ( and even Indian team) off he going to ICL though I am not sure whose infuence brought him down.
RE:DC changes
by Shiva on Apr 23, 2008 12:50 PM Permalink
Rayudu apparently didnt get along with Arjun Yadav when they played for Hyderabad. So Shivlal made sure Rayudu didnt rise up the ranks. He decided to opt for ICL instead of waiting to be selected for the national side.
RE:DC changes
by dudeman on Apr 23, 2008 12:54 PM Permalink
cool :-) then his son must be made to open the inngs and face the music played by the likes of brett lee,mcgrath,asif etc......his talents must be exhibited for us to see..
RE:DC changes
by ian on Apr 23, 2008 12:49 PM Permalink
i think the key in delhi team is the great venture of ASIF n MCgrath---they will crash any team batting line up
RE:DC changes
by Shiva on Apr 23, 2008 12:57 PM Permalink
I thought their bowling was very disciplined right at the start. But a batsmen like Afridi or Gilchrist can upset them anytime if its their day in a 20 20 game.
RE:DC changes
by Shiva on Apr 23, 2008 12:40 PM Permalink
I agree. I think Ojha should be left in the team. Kick Venugopal Rao out and send Laxman down the order. Also it's almost as if that Arjun Yadav has got a free ticket to play because of his father's influence. In such case, he should be sent up as an opener and asked to go for the big shots. What's his use at No.6 or 7 when he cant even bowl ? Are they protecting his ass ? That sounds very unprofessional to me. Also Afridi at No.3 and Rohit Sharma at 4. Symonds at 5 and Laxman at 6. Anyway none of these will matter in 20 20 if one batsman like Gilly,Symonds or Afridi get going.
RE:DC changes
by The Fuhrer on Apr 23, 2008 12:43 PM Permalink
Due to shivlal yadav's politics we lost one great player AT Rayudu..if he had been there he wud have defnately matched the likes of S Badrinath Dhawan etc..
RE:DC changes
by sumanth ttt on Apr 23, 2008 01:01 PM Permalink
Totally all good Hyd guys in Zee league (no wonder we won that). Rayadu is as good as Rohit Sharma.
RE:RE:DC changes
by sudhu on Apr 23, 2008 12:42 PM Permalink
Its not about playing shots .. DC s formidable batting is not able to utilize full 20 overs even. leave rohit and they had got out in 15 overs. laxman should open with gilly to give some slow and steady start..
RE:RE:RE:DC changes
by The Fuhrer on Apr 23, 2008 12:44 PM Permalink
Laxman should open ??? He eats the balls and throws the team into tremendous pressure mate
RE:DC changes
by sudhu on Apr 23, 2008 12:40 PM Permalink
guys .. only 4 foreign players allowed.. when u kick venu and laxman from hydi team .. they can't make playing 11 even..
their bowling is really bad. RP not in form, Vaas lagging in pace .. and no one else.
RE:Mumbai Rocks
by sudhu on Apr 23, 2008 12:44 PM Permalink
luke ronchi is biggest record holder in aussie domestic circuit.. for fastest 100. he will play and keep in place of prince I guess
what ever has happened to sehwag ?. Post his australian test tour and 300 in chenai his confidence has gone sky high. It is very difficult to control such batsmen. I think he is reaching his peak now .
RE:RE:sehwag ko kya ho gaya ??
by Hari on Apr 23, 2008 12:39 PM Permalink
and how many LBWs not given or dropped actches in his 300 ? we must appreciate good batting. Even yuvraj the other day got 3 dropped lives and escape from close LBW. But everyone remembers only the final score.
It's a frickin 20 20 pyjama game for god's sake. It's all about luck and one batsman/bowler clicking. People here are making it out to be some grand contest. Any team can beat any other team provided it's their day. It doesnt really matter who is in the team or not.
