cong. india to win over pakistan in 20-20 final match. specialy the man behind the wine is herat of milions pupils m.s. dhoni he is out standing performer as captain as wel as player.also well played by all india teams member like irfan, gambhir & r.p.singh
This win should be attributed to Agarkar. His presence in the dressing room alone motivate other players to lift their game.
Any player seeing him thinks "However I play, it cannot be as bad as he plays"
This thought helps even Joginder singh & new comer like Rohit Sharma, Yusouf Pathan to play good cricket.
The Theme of dressing room was "Whatever may be the situation on the ground. It cannot be more worse then Agarkar's Bowling ".
The whole team should thanks to Agarkar that the way he use his political connections to get into the team he doesnt use it to get into the final eleven. He is very honest there
RE:This win should be attributed to Agarkar.
by Sameer on Sep 25, 2007 10:22 AM Permalink
agarkar is far better then jogindar, he has not taken any wicket, opp. has given hime wickets
RE:This win should be attributed to Agarkar.
by debmalya mitra on Sep 25, 2007 03:24 PM Permalink
end result is the same..the opossition has lost wickets and this helped india win game..agarkar is so miserable that even opposition do not feel like giving him wickets..
RE:This win should be attributed to Agarkar.
by sachin sharma on Sep 25, 2007 02:25 PM Permalink
Millind, if they have to get motivated like this , then they have a better man.Agarkar atleast was not playing, there was somebody who was on the field and providing enough scope for others to think that "whatever they do, they can do better than this guy" and he is none other than Sree santh.
RE:This win should be attributed to Agarkar.
by Pranav Joshi on Sep 25, 2007 10:23 AM Permalink
You said it mate... Joginder came very close to giving away as many runs as Agarkar but at the end of the day it was proven that no one representing India or any country for that matter can be as pathetic as Agarkar!!
Also someone please explain to me how does he manage to get into the side everytime he is axed from the squad for poor performance?? Irfan, Veru and even Saurav had to prove themselves in domestic matches before they were recalled but this bugger always manges to make it back into the squad without even playin a single Ranji trophy or county match!!
RE:This win should be attributed to Agarkar.
by sanjay on Sep 25, 2007 10:35 AM Permalink
Why loose talk ? Let us compare how Agarkar performs against Australia with main bowlers in India and world over.
Agarkar Matches 21 wickets 36 average runs 28.41 per wicket and wickets per match 1.71
Kapil Matches 41 wickets 45 average runs 27.68 per wicket and wickets per match 1.09
Srinath Matches 29 wickets 33 average runs 36.78 per wicket and wickets per match 1.13
Kumble Matches 29 wickets 31 average runs 40.29 per wicket and wickets per match 1.06
Harbhajan Matches 15 wickets 16 average runs 41.18 per wicket and wickets per match 1.06
Prabhakar Matches 17 wickets 20 average runs 30.50 per wicket and wickets per match 1.17
Binny Matches 23 wickets 21 average runs 33.90 per wicket and wickets per match 0.91
Imran Khan Matches 29 wickets 28 average runs 28.60 per wicket and wickets per match 0.96
Donald Matches 30 wickets 45 average runs 25.97 per wicket and wickets per match 1.5
Murali Matches 33 wickets 46 average runs 30.80 per wicket and wickets per match 1.53
So results suggest Agarkar performed best against Aussies in ODI format. Possible reason Australia is weaker against incoming delivery as their batsmen are strong in cut and pull shot which is dangerous against incoming delivery. Poor chap he is the fastest bowler we have barring Munaf. This shows bowling strength of India in any.
RE:RE:This win should be attributed to Agarkar.
by Madhusudhan N.R. on Sep 25, 2007 11:28 AM Permalink
Well said, Sanjay. The guy is the worst under-performer after Javagal Srinath. If only he curbs his impetuosity, Agarkar can do even better, specially when India needs his runs, or for him to bowl tight. He seems to have delusions of grandeur, because when he is batting he seems to think he is Sachin (of the late 90s) and when he is bowling he thinks he is Bret Lee...??? Whenever he plays withing himself, sticks to line & length, he is a far better bowler, as he showed during the WI series. A guy who has been around for so long, should know what's the right length to bowl or what shots he should play.....well, I guess he'll be out permanently, if he doesn't get his act together. The new bunch of fast bowlers are learning fast (except another Sree - Sreesanth, who seems to have the same diesease). All said and done, CONGRATS to Dhoni and the young Indian Team for their fantastic win.. Chak De, India.
YAHI TEAM RAHNI CHAIYE BAS EK SHEWAG YUSUF PATHAN KI JAGHA OR KE PIYUSH CHAWAL HARBHAJAN KI JAGAH OR 12 MAN IS RAMESH POWAR 13 YUSUF PATHAN AND 14 DINESH KARTIK . THEN CLODSED TEAM MANGER HI COACH SAHI ROBIN SINGH FIELDIN COACH ND PRASAD BOLOWER COACH
It's a great thing that happened to indian cricket. I believe instead of getting too much carried away with this and resting/dropping all three seniors, BCCI should take an ideal solution. I would like to see in every match one of three trios taking rest to allow the youngsters to get enough chances in 50-50.
These are my ideal replacements for each of them.
1. Rohit Sharma for Rahul Dravid. 2. Gambhir for Saurav Ganguly. 3. Uthappa/Karthik for Sachin.
Only player of this team that I believe needs to learn a lot is Sreesanth. He needs to control his tempo, he looks like Zaheer during his early years.
RE:Best Way forward from this point
by Krishna Kumar Chaturvedi on Sep 25, 2007 10:19 AM Permalink
U can take Rohit inplace of Saurav...But do not replace Sachin/Dravid. They are the consistent performer. But your suggestions is quite important that we will be able to see the performance of the youngsters in the site. So we will have some more options for the future team. But another side man this is 20-20 not the 50-50. For 50-50 U will have to show your ability to give the consistent perfromance. Prior to this 20-20, Agter getting a 50, Gambhir used to throw his wickets...So how can u rely on him. Rohit Sharma is really a new face for the Indian Cricket future. Thats all.
RE:Best Way forward from this point
by Yogita Fernandes on Sep 25, 2007 09:35 AM Permalink
Sachin Tendulkar can%u2019t be replaced by anyone in the world.
RE:Best Way forward from this point
by Salil on Sep 25, 2007 09:56 AM Permalink
Suneel 50 over match & 2o over match too much difference is there.dont talk rubbish.
RE:RE:Best Way forward from this point
by Ashok Rajashekar on Sep 25, 2007 10:01 AM Permalink
Suneel is right!!! he is not telling all the three shud sit out. Only one per match and his replacements are also good. Big three are good but they cannot be there for long time and hence there should be smooth transition. We should never feel void when these big threee leave the scene and hence i welcome his suggestions.
RE:Best Way forward from this point
by Ben T on Sep 25, 2007 10:10 AM Permalink
common guys....gimme a break...what non sense...how cud u ever thnk of replacing dravid with r sharma and sachin with karthick..!!! its the most ridiculous statement i heard in recent times and that too based on 20-20 matches...both uthappa and karthcik has proved time and again that they hav a long way to go in 50-50 ...so plz dont talk of replacements.
First, Dhoni has arrived, as India's ODI captain.If he can be cool for 20 overs, hopefully he can be cool for 50 overs.
Congrats MSD!Great play!
Now lets see the other players... Gambhir-consistent in ODIs and 20-20
Uthappa-inconsistent in 50-50, but slightly more successful in 20-20, but always gives a chance, when ever he scores, almost like Sehwag!Will he make it to the 50-50, once that his god father Dravid is out, we will have to wait and see.
Sehwag-still hasn;t changed-inconsistency still remains, as does the uncertainity regarding his retention to 50-50.
Yuvraj Singh- the real reason, why India is the 20-20 Champions.Unlucky to lose the captaincy, but MSD is more mature than him.Also the main plank for 50-50 team.
MSD-Humble(we have to see if it lasts though).Its touching that this Utaranchi origin boy of very humble background, who was grew up in Bihar,has arrived on the scene.I have ecome his fan only after the world cup, not for his batting, but for his coolness,matter-of-factness, and humbleness.I moment I treasure is the smart reply he gave to Ravid Shastri for his stupid article on cricinfo.com. Way to MSD,India is with you.MSD is the first real captain from real India(His father worked his early life as a gardner{maalee} and later as a supervisor for gardners), unlike all rich people before him like Pataudi,Wadekar,Ganguly,Dravid etc(Even Azar came from a better back ground).MAHENDRA SIGH DHONI, I salute you from the bottom of my heart.
Put only the Northern in charge and you will see anger, egos and a attitude to never give up and fight. Thats always missing from Southern boys [ maybe history is to blame for their no-gut-they never saw invasion across the border, never needed to show gut to fight and hence are always complacent].
Northern & North-Eastern boys rule! They can fight and create respect for India. Keep this going.
RE:Fighting spirit lacking in Dravid leadership.
by Debo Mcnair on Sep 25, 2007 11:04 PM Permalink
Beg to differ!!! Yes South was protected from conflicts!! And you guys had to fight!! But you did not win anything!! Conquered by Turks, Mughals, British etc etc. Indian freedom struggle was hardly militant. And after Independence the whole of India fought together.
RE:Fighting spirit lacking in Dravid leadership.
by Ben T on Sep 26, 2007 09:03 AM Permalink
new yorker....haha..mann...u r very hilarious ..looks like u hav come straight out of a comic book..." respect the tough " u mean the bunch of morons from UP & bihar who says 'jhat jhat' for Z ..or it mus b Lalloo prasad the icon of north india that we shud respect ..!! first u learn to respect ur own countrymen and then ask for others to respect ...ur very nerve to post this comment itself shows how immature and childish u r ...and u r talking of respect ..!!
RE:Fighting spirit lacking in Dravid leadership.
by AK on Sep 25, 2007 07:51 AM Permalink
You are poor in Geography Dhoni is from Ranchi which is in Jharkhand and is in the eastern state dear Indian brother
RE:RE:Fighting spirit lacking in Dravid leadership.
by New Yorker on Sep 25, 2007 08:01 AM Permalink
Only North to North Eastern area had international border and fought all the wars and external aggression. It makes a difference whether you'd like to believe it or not. Indias freedom struggle started in Kolkata, Bengal till Lahore, Punjab. Even in USA we can see the degree of complacency in Southern people verses Northern and North-Eastern people-again whether you like it or not. Many Americans even ask the same.
Respect the tough and you'll become tough soon like in academics student respect the previous toppers or in sports. Don't take it personally.
RE:RE:Fighting spirit lacking in Dravid leadership.
by ggg on Sep 25, 2007 07:50 AM Permalink
I am from north. U must feel ashamed of urself. We indians don't need u. I see u as a "new yorker" this shows how much u love ur country. There is only one India!!!
RE:Fighting spirit lacking in Dravid leadership.
by shashidhar biradar on Sep 25, 2007 08:06 AM Permalink
only south indians invaded other countries i.e tamils invaded malasia and singapore in ancient times. If you wanna know more search tamil history in chola empire you will come to know
RE:Fighting spirit lacking in Dravid leadership.
by OASAMA on Sep 25, 2007 07:43 AM Permalink
U r 100% right, southern are very bad that`s why karunanidhi abuses hindu god. These southern has no respect for hindu and hindustan.
RE:Fighting spirit lacking in Dravid leadership.
by New Yorker on Sep 25, 2007 07:54 AM Permalink
Well I don't know about the disrespect for Hindu Gods-that maybe a small percentage. Most South Indians are more religious than many folks from UP and Bihar I know off. As for Kuranadhi- he is a atheist and like most Communist party caders never show respect for any religion-whatever they show is for political gain. These should not be counted as a major force.
RE:Fighting spirit lacking in Dravid leadership.
by ramachandra mahale on Sep 25, 2007 08:03 AM Permalink
It is not the question as to who is superior-South, North, East or West! We are first and foremost Indians. The victory has made everyone proud and happy; the captain, a debutant and team mates deserve rich applaud which the ex-captain has done; I join him.
RE:Fighting spirit lacking in Dravid leadership.
by amit pappu on Sep 25, 2007 08:01 AM Permalink
why you are creating regionalism too...this is something which an indian can never do....I myself is north Indian but never felt different from any other part....
ARE YOU PAKISTANI???who wanted to genenrate communalism.
RE:Fighting spirit lacking in Dravid leadership.
by Vishwajay Chakravarty on Sep 25, 2007 07:57 AM Permalink
How stupid u can be? It is people like u who r responsible for creating rift between Indians. And u have no idea of geography or history either!! Dhoni is from Eastern India. Saurav, the most successful Indian captain is from Eastern India. Pathan, the man of the match is from Western India, and Sreesanth, the man who took the last catch and also took 4 for 12 against a team like Australia is a south Indian.
It is the sum of all that makes India what it is!!
We all owe our gratitude to sachin for keeping out of this 20/20 tournament. otherwise he would have scored a century and India wud have lost the match.
RE:THANKS SACHIN
by Indian on Sep 25, 2007 07:41 AM Permalink
like windies lost to SA inspite of brilliant innings by Gayle. Windies lack team spirit which is wat India lacs when three big guns (Sachin , Saurav , Dravid) are there becoz they impose there thoughts on team
RE:RE:THANKS SACHIN
by adarsh on Sep 25, 2007 09:05 AM Permalink
he would have taken 80 balls for a century. just imagine sachin adn ganguly fielding. With them in the team, they wouldnt have had Dhoni captain the way he would have wanted.
RE:THANKS SACHIN
by adarsh on Sep 25, 2007 09:04 AM Permalink
Good that Ganguly and Sachin kept out of this tournament. They would have only played for records
RE:THANKS SACHIN
by R KURMI on Sep 25, 2007 09:39 AM Permalink
hey man this is not good, they are good players, In India the cricket has most popular because of this Senior Indian Players only, Sachin , sourav, Rahul are good players.
RE:RE:THANKS SACHIN
by Ben T on Sep 25, 2007 10:16 AM Permalink
Siva kumar....dont blabber rubbish...tell me how many times sachin has wasted balls in scoring a 100...55 man of the matches itslef proves the class of that genious and the number of times he has propelled India to victory . Sachin Rules . and when it comes to One day Sachin without doubt is the best batsman ever to play .
RE:THANKS SACHIN
by p nagaraj on Sep 25, 2007 08:54 AM Permalink
shut up u guys, who ru to talk about the world batsman he is an legend . he is one of the match winners for india he contributed alot to the nation don't behave like this behave like a pure indian else shut ur mouth and sit in ur home dont type such messages
RE:THANKS SACHIN
by abhishek bhanushali on Sep 25, 2007 10:17 AM Permalink
IT'S BECAUSE OF SACHIN TENDULKAR HEARTY THANKS TO HIM FOR NOT PLAYING...LOLZ OTHERWISE HE WOULD HAVE WON ANOTHER WORLD CUP FOR TEAM INDIA...LOLZ AGAIN HE MUST RETIRE FOR GOOD
Congratulations team india for your excellant all round performance. Please keep it up however we should have done better yesterday. Team India badly missed the expertise of tendlya and dada who could have taken the score to atleast 220-230 with their experianced shot selection/upsetting seasonal bowlers like umar etc. The forthcoming one day series against Australia & Pakistan will make the game more interesting with the return of the senior players. Chakde Chakde India
