I think kapil dev is an over hyped cricketer who has been hyped up by indian media.Any body who has followed cricket will acknowledge that Kapil dev was very very good as an allrounder when he started....but slwoly slowly he became a pathetic batsman....his bowling too degraded...He just kept on playing to break hadlees record...and his bowling average and strike rate is the worst for people who have taken more than 400 wickets...his batting average in tests is also ok..tat of 31...Today if u see players like jaques kallis have a test average of 55 with bat and close to 10000 runs and also 200 wickets at an aaverage of 29...but no body praises suck cricketers...because they are silent...performing..kapil was a good indian cricketer....not a great..sorry !! and to think that those days test cricket and one days were without the power hitters and bowling wickets...his bowling stats had 2 be much better...Had he retired gracefuly 4 years before he actualy did his records would have been much better..because last 3 to 4 years of his carrer he used 2 bowl at 120km..and people like greatbatch used 2 bl;ast him... Regarding ICL tell me guys who wants 2 see a retired stephen flemin or lara or mcgrath ...playing along side dinesh mongia in similar coloured clothing>>.i would love to see lara in a red west indies outfit playing for west indies against a yellow jersey mcgrath playing for australia....Tats a contest....all this is fake....!! the real thing is bcci....although they are m
RE:Kapil is Overhyped !!
by Ajay Kumar on Aug 23, 2007 12:51 AM Permalink
Kapil was a genuine allrounder. 1) When he retired, he was the highest wicket taker in world. At the same time, had scored more than 5000 test runs i.e. half the achievement of Gavaskar (then the highest run scorer) in the batting as well. 2) during those times, no good bowlers from Ausi, Eng, NZ wanted to visit India reason- dead pitches giving no help to pace bowlers (even now it doesnt help them). Kapil was the one who got max wkts on this dead Indian soil. Agreed, during the last couple of years, he wasnt the best as far as his bowling is concerned. But his batting was never in doubt. when all others required time to settle, he used to come and start scoring runs straightaway. Remember his epic 175 in WC-83. During 1985 series in Ausi, shastri won the Audi car as man of the tournament, but in all matches where shastri scored tortoise innings, Kapil had to come late in innings and to salvage India by scoring quick runs. 3)further fast bowlers work in pairs. but in india he had no support from the other end. 4) inspite of being fast bowler, he remained the fittest player, not to loose any match due to injury. Had record of playing continuously for 67 odd(!!) matches and after that for one match he was dropped by Gavaskar, for so-called indiscipline. He never broke down due to injuries. Lessons to Nehras, Zaheers, Munafs.
RE:Kapil is Overhyped !!
by Alagunambi Ramasubbu on Aug 21, 2007 09:50 PM Permalink
Hello Mr Rohit, I totally disagree with you, Do you know Kapil's dedication, sacrifice and the way he played Cricket for our country, He has given all his total talent more than 100 % of what he had what one can excpect from him. Only due to him India could won the world cup, till date no other player nor any captains could win the world cup for our country. It's only he that he could win the Test Series in England in 1986, after that India needs 21 long years to win that too with a mere 1-0 margin. Only Kapil lead India in 1985 World series against the Mighty Australians in Australia. It is only the Kapilwho could score 100 runs against the S.Africans in 1991 - 1992 (Friendly series) wherein there was a controversy of outting the then S.African Wicketkeeper by Mankard out. Until he retires from international cricket he has given his best and dedicating himself only for the country and not for anything nor for money. He played with the passion and with full love. Please kindly bear it in your mind before giving any comments against the Greatest of our Nation.
RE:Kapil is Overhyped !!
by hitesh parikh on Aug 21, 2007 10:05 PM Permalink
i thinks is unfortunate that people like you are judging such a legend crickter. I hope you hadn't even born when Kapil brought World Cup with all average performers then. That the sign of leadership quality. And dont forget with time there has been lots of change in building and breaking records. Records of taking 400 wkts then was something diffrent than today. If its was really so easy why other players during that time. I feel you are proving yourself absolutely foolish by writing such a words for such a great person and cricter.
RE:Kapil is Overhyped !!
by Play World on Aug 21, 2007 10:27 PM Permalink
rohit dasan maroli , u r rite in telling about kapil last years.But during those 1980's , he was the best and gien the best for INDIA.Players much below kapil calibre makes money now and so cant compare kallis with kapil.Also players enjoy money in india , is because kapil won the world cup.And u r talking of ICL and players like brain and mcgrath .Answer for this why people see county cricket in england ?
RE:Kapil is Overhyped !!
by Anil Gupta on Aug 21, 2007 09:37 PM Permalink
Kapil is the most respected Indian cricketer.Hehas made ountry proud when he won world cup in 1983.it is unfortunate that BCCI has taken action against such player. It is only politics not any thing else Anil Gupta
RE:Kapil is Overhyped !!
by soloman williams on Aug 21, 2007 09:44 PM Permalink
only a damn fool can express such comments regarding Kapil....the only person who gave us the world cup.why do you forget that Kapil played most of his cricket in dead indian pitches.kapil was never patheic...rather you are a pathetic writer.can you imagine kallis taking 400 wickets in indian conditions? He was a great player who never missed a match due to any fitness problem.these kallis's can never ever dream of taking 9 wickets in an innings at a place like ahmedabad.and why are you comparing him with foreign players?He is the best that India ever produced.is that not enough for you.....you pathetic writer!
RE:Kapil is Overhyped !!
by mohan murugesan on Aug 21, 2007 09:45 PM Permalink
u,rohit,the oldmen only read always the records and tempt to prove they r more than cricket by interpreting with records etc.the game is build by heroic performance by kapil,botham,vivrichards and lara,ganguly not by wisden book. with warm regards
RE:Kapil is Overhyped !!
by anip kumar on Aug 21, 2007 09:29 PM Permalink
u r mad and r too stupid to write such things abt a great cricketer world has produced .its a pitty that world acknowledges him and an indian like u thinks that way..shame.he is a legend and too great a cricketer.
Kapil was sacked because even after years of tutoring from Gavas-Kar, Vengsar-Kar and Pawar, this jat from Hurry-ana could not learn to speak a single line in Marathi!!
BCCI is owned by maharastrians. How can they tolerate a non-marathi speaking clown from the north?
It is a miracle that he was allowed to hang around for so long!!!
What is the position of BCCI versus foreign players aligned with ICL? will they or wont they let Inzmam or Klusener or Boje play in India or if India tours those countries will they ask those countries to drop those players? Or is this ban only directed at Indian players? If yes then BCCI is discriminating against some Indians based on their affiliation. And that is unconstitutional. And Sharad Pawar as the head of BCCI needs to be kicked off immediately from his position as Agriculture Minister for defying the Indian constitution. Bal Thackarey who voted for Pratibhatai just because she is Marathi should take up Sanyas and meditate to gain enough wisdom as to realise which Marathi to support. Ambedkar who wrote the constitution or Pawar who defied it? Also Pawar has earlier insulted Indian Women by calling a daughter in Law of India as an Italian. All very complicated. Iwould be grateful if some wise Pakistani like Inzamam clarifies things to me.
Kapil Dev is one of the greatest cricketers India has produced.People,who have not even playeda simple Gulli-Danda are at the helm of affairs!Dont let politicians mess around with our great sports personalities.As it is,the Politicians have messed up our country .Please leave Sports to SPORTS PERSONS.Thanks
kapil said i want to play but it seems he joined icl only for money. the rest who joined icl appears to have been enticed with money when they are not distantly being considered by bcci. nothing bad nothing good. its all about money when real cricket departs.
RE:ICL IS AS BAD AS THE BCCI
by prashant chauhan on Aug 21, 2007 08:55 PM Permalink
mony?? does it make any difference.. if money is also the reason to run ICL....atleast now there would be another oportunity for some players who have no bigg boss to be selected in BCCI team... and one q. 2 u ... wht ever job u r doing.. r u doing it for free.. not getting any salary or money???
RE:ICL IS AS BAD AS THE BCCI
by Anil Gupta on Aug 21, 2007 09:43 PM Permalink
This is not correct. Kapil has joined ICLfor upliftment of cricket.Money comes automatically when u do some thing extraordinary which has been done by Kapil in the past and will do onceagain thanks Anil Gupta
I become nostalgic about college days when we used to think of seeing the match as a best alternative to attend classes. Will it remain same or students will become much studious. Let us see
RE:Kapil sacked as NCA Chairman
by Chandrashekhar Jadhav on Aug 21, 2007 09:00 PM Permalink
BCCI is not owned by Govt. It is a private board. So BCCI doesn't have any right to ban the players for playing in Indian Team.
RE:Kapil sacked as NCA Chairman
by chamda on Aug 22, 2007 01:33 PM Permalink
but pawar is politician dnt forget he will try his levl best not to grow ICL
RE:ICL
by amrish garg on Aug 21, 2007 08:42 PM Permalink
Discipline is must in Indian Cricket. If every player started running for money and their mind is divided between playing for money in ICL and playing for country then it will harm indian cricket..BCCI has done the correct thing..Kapil Dev and ZEE are more interested in making money than in promoting cricket..BCCI too has some bad elements but playing for India should have some feelings for India and money should not be the focus and a player has to and should chose between one of them: BCCI/India team vs ICL. Dont forget Kapil was once charged with match fixing..its business for him. Dont get carried away. What BCCI did is must otherwise players will run away to ICL for money.
RE:ICL
by Kingchn on Aug 21, 2007 08:50 PM Permalink
Can you tell me one cricketer in the current indian team who only play for the pride of the country instead of money? Grow up my dear friend money rules the current world and every body love to earn more and more nothing wrong in it as long as you earn it in a legal way.
RE:ICL
by Anil Gupta on Aug 21, 2007 09:48 PM Permalink
this is not correct .kapil was ignored by BccI FOR YEARS. He has taken right step by promoting ICL.The crickters will be benefitted by his action.regards anil gupta
BCCI should keep in mind that only because of Kapil Dev's historic game against zimbabwe, india emerged into world cup champions in 1983. Present players selected by the BCCI can only watch the opponents success. So instead of fighting with the cricket genious Kapil Dev, the BCCI can concentrate something for improving indian cricket.
RE:ICL
by amrish garg on Aug 21, 2007 08:44 PM Permalink
Do you know the record of India in ODI/Test after world cup i.e. 1983-1987...the world cup victory was similar to our team's performance in 2007 world cup i.e. one off case. Pls dont mind.
RE:ICL
by dinesh karanth on Aug 21, 2007 08:42 PM Permalink
You are 1000% (yes- 1000%) correct. These people do not have any other business other than introducing politics in every aspect.